Poll: A List of Problems in the Gaming Community That Make Me Rage

[twasdfzxcv]

To OP: Valid arguments, but I'd like to play the devil's advocate and counter your arguments in the post.

While not all video game stories suck, it is true that there's no good video game story. The reason is that video game stories are constrained by gameplay. A game must be entertaining/enjoyable or otherwise it's not a good game. While on the other hand a good story doesn't have to be entertaining/enjoyable. This inherent constrain of gaming limits the types of story that can work with games, which resulting a lack of good video game story.

 

[Cowabungaa]

C'mon, there's totally something to be said about that. Don't tell me you actually want some Twilight in your Devil May Cry?

When I saw that trailer he looked anything but emo, more of a loose cannon and rebel. No self-pity, whining and crappy depressing poetry.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

I just hate the people of the gaming community. The game League of Legends by riot games has the worst community. Nobody knows how to work as a team because they flame eachother so everyone ragequits.

You're kidding right? The LoL community is brilliant compared to DotA. That's why I play LoL, because there aren't assholes who'll kick you for killing an enemy.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

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I know community now has no real definition as people seem willing to apply it to anything. But I still don't like to think of a group of people playing x-box as a community.

The only side of gaming that I would consider having any kind of communal relationship is the modding-community. Since they work on projects together and share it with their peers.

Gamers on the other hand just play games.

Edit: Perhaps culture is a better word?

It does seem to have clustered into one of those to some degree.

Culture would be a better word I guess.

I still think we are a little community though... especially on the Escapist and Youtube. We share tips, stories, our creations and reviews... and of course often internally flame and ridicule eachother, which is an unfortunate element that we could all do without.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

The fact that people refer to it as a community?

The fact that you post here makes you a member of a community, like it or not.

Just curious, why does that bother you?

It's not a community. It's just people playing games. We don't function as a community so why call it one?

If anything it's a clique.

community = an interacting population of various kinds of individuals (as species) in a common location.

^common location = escapist, or the internet if you want to be more broad.

we interact about all kinds of things, gaming in particular in this section of the forum, which makes us a special interest, and all of us coming together online..soo....

community is a pretty damn good definition. regardless why does it matter if people regard it as a community? does it hurt you physically/mentally when someone says they are apart of the escapist community?

 

[Verlander]

Elitism is my beef with the gaming community, and they're only a small portion of the community to be fair

Elitism? Do you mean with in certain games, i.e. joinning a multiplayer game and finding that the majority of the community has become very smug in their skills and created a high barrier to entry? Or more like "hard core" gamers that look down upon anyone who doesn't game as hard or as much as they do?

The latter, I don't have as much of a problem with people who think they are good because they are. Casual gamers aren't necessarily worse, less interested, or somehow less "worthy" of playing games or being involved in the community, yet I have seen quite a few instances where people have been treated as such. It's not too bad here on these forums though, hence why I'm happy to vent and share amongst you guys

 

[Thurmer]

I'm not really bothered by these issues because I generally assume most people/ my friends are retarded.

 

[Wolfram23]

I pretty much agree with all those things. I think one issue tho is that when it comes to online forums, you're getting people from all walks of life including from the pre-pubescent to the married-with-children type so the maturity level is all over the place. It's not surprising for a 12 yr old to say something ignorant "oh hey it sucks because it looks bad and it's boring! WORST GAME EVER!" so yeah...

 

[strum4h]

I just hate the people of the gaming community. The game League of Legends by riot games has the worst community. Nobody knows how to work as a team because they flame eachother so everyone ragequits.

You're kidding right? The LoL community is brilliant compared to DotA. That's why I play LoL, because there aren't assholes who'll kick you for killing an enemy.

You have never had someone feed the enemy team then leave for not letting them get golem buff or go mid? I have met so many terrible players through that game.

 

[Deleted]

Its been my experience that people who just don't like a game will find more reasons to not like it, and blame everything about the game. Gamers are some of the worst people in the world and there's nothing we can do to change them.

 

[Brickcups]

Why should we not be critical of a medium we love? The only way it will improve is if we demand that it do so. Just because more people seem to complain online does not mean we need to stop criticizing bland, uninspired games.

I don't think that the OP was trying to say we shouldn't be critical of the medium, but that we should be critical in constructive ways. Saying that something sucks because of a generic issue with no further information to back up the complaint will never get gaming where we want it to be. If we're going to criticize games, we should have valid points to back up what we're saying.

Demanding things to improve is nice, but "demanding" improvement with solid criticism will get us a lot more.

 

[Naota_391]

Its been my experience that people who just don't like a game will find more reasons to not like it, and blame everything about the game. Gamers are some of the worst people in the world and there's nothing we can do to change them.

But if you say this is how it has to be, you do no better than the fools of this burning city!

 

[Deleted]

Its been my experience that people who just don't like a game will find more reasons to not like it, and blame everything about the game. Gamers are some of the worst people in the world and there's nothing we can do to change them.

But if you say this is how it has to be, you do no better than the fools of this burning city!

But through the fire and the flames we'll carry on and talk amongst the smarter gamers!

 

[Naota_391]

To OP: Valid arguments, but I'd like to play the devil's advocate and counter your arguments in the post.

While not all video game stories suck, it is true that there's no good video game story. The reason is that video game stories are constrained by gameplay. A game must be entertaining/enjoyable or otherwise it's not a good game. While on the other hand a good story doesn't have to be entertaining/enjoyable. This inherent constrain of gaming limits the types of story that can work with games, which resulting a lack of good video game story.

I completely disagree. I think Mass Effect has a good story. I think that GTA IV, up until about halfway through the game, had a great story going for it. I think that Red Dead Redemption has a good story. I think that Bioshock had a great story. I think that Half-Life, Portal, Final Fantasy 4, Halo: Reach, Fallout 3, Heavy Rain, and plenty of other games have good stories.

And how could you say otherwise? Upon what grounds can we call these stories "bad"? If nothing else, I think they're better than those who told similar stories before. Why? Because there's an element of the unexpected. There's a new element that can barely be accounted for. One that is let loose, and after that, it's quite possible that ANYTHING could happen. And some games really run with that.

Players change stories. Sometimes it's quite literal, other times you might have to think about it. but take a game like Fallout 3, for example. There are dozens and dozens of stories in this game that a player can go through, and they can all unravel in numerous ways. There's a father to be found, towns to be defended, post-apocalyptic vampires to handle, a DS with a sense of justice, ghouls with hearts, humans without them, and more. And then you have all the things that you'll experience on your own, that aren't necessarily told be the dialogue of a character, but happen none the less.

 

[twasdfzxcv]

I completely disagree. I think Mass Effect has a good story. I think that GTA IV, up until about halfway through the game, had a great story going for it. I think that Red Dead Redemption has a good story. I think that Bioshock had a great story. I think that Half-Life, Portal, Final Fantasy 4, Halo: Reach, Fallout 3, Heavy Rain, and plenty of other games have good stories.

And how could you say otherwise? Upon what grounds can we call these stories "bad"? If nothing else, I think they're better than those who told similar stories before. Why? Because there's an element of the unexpected. There's a new element that can barely be accounted for. One that is let loose, and after that, it's quite possible that ANYTHING could happen. And some games really run with that.

Players change stories. Sometimes it's quite literal, other times you might have to think about it. but take a game like Fallout 3, for example. There are dozens and dozens of stories in this game that a player can go through, and they can all unravel in numerous ways. There's a father to be found, towns to be defended, post-apocalyptic vampires to handle, a DS with a sense of justice, ghouls with hearts, humans without them, and more. And then you have all the things that you'll experience on your own, that aren't necessarily told be the dialogue of a character, but happen none the less.

We have a different view on what "good" is. I'll agree that all the games you have listed have above average stories among games, and many might in fact be consider "good" in gaming industry. What I'm saying is that, in the world of literature with films and novels, these stories aren't anything special.