Poll: A Question To Atheists

[Abedeus]

my best mates brother drowned at the age of 14
my friends flatmate drowned when he got pushed off a bridge
and a friend 2 weeks ago got killed when he got knocked down by a drunk driver

Oh, so people die because of other people or by an accident and it's a proof that God doesn't exist.

...Okay. I think that metals attracting thunders are the work of Thor.

yeah ok believe that if you want! ( but what you said there kinda proves my point in a way)

SO, saying god doesnt exist because of those reasons is "stupid"

but if said people survived and people were to thank god ( which i know some people would ) that proves he does exist?

you cant thank someone for all the good and just neglect all the bad things

ok al change what i mean for you:

i dont believe in a god or want to believe in a god because if he does exist hes a prick!

and if you forget the things that happened to me

what about the people in africa who die from starvation and diseases "god" had to have made those viruses etc etc (just like he made the 2 dicks that killed my friends) so yeah "GOD" can fuck off for all i care
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nope still havnt been struck by lightning

It doesn't prove he exists. Maybe it would "prove" that he might've helped them. I mean, if they "thank the God", it means they must've been praying. Placebo effect at least.

God doesn't "create" viruses. God doesn't spread them. Again, human error - usually people get AIDS from casual sex with strangers or at least, if one person in the couple does that and the other is unaware of it.

Also, if God created that place the way it is, it's not his fault people moved there. Their ancestors chose to stay in one place, instead of migrating and finding better areas to live. Again, human error, for which the future generations have to pay.

...And do you really think some omnipotent creature like God would care enough about you to smite you? He did those things in the Old Testament, he was way too bored with all the peaceful people living and so on. Now he's being entertained by ongoing wars.

That's like with Hollywood/pop stars - they pretend to care about the poor, give money to chairties... but they live better than most of the people in the world.

I went to a religious school, so i was religious for a while, but after a chat with an atheist freind i realised that there was some truly bonkers stuff going on. I gave organised Religion a second chance but finally renounced my christianity as a protest.
Plus i'm commiting sloth pretty much 24/7 so i could either spend every day running back and forth to the church, or just live my life. Got a religious Zealot friend and he never stopped trying to convert me back

See, this is why I'm glad to live in Poland - one of the first Catholic countries in the world (5th or 6th one), yet almost nobody cares about converting people and so on.

But calling yourself a Christian and not trying to peacefully defend your faith is like rooting for a team and never going to see the actual game.

 

[Aardvark Soup]

the majority of wars are from religious beliefs

Majority?
Imagine the number of wars ever fought by humans throughout the entire history of everything.
Now name me 5 wars that we fought purely on the grounds of religious belief.

It's shocking to me how few people are atheist because it is the end of a long train of logical conclusions.

Totally with you man.

1. the whole "war on terrorism" we are fighting now is a result from "religious extremists"
2. the whole isreal vs palestine has "religion" as the main cause of the war
3. WWII hitler hated jews which is a religion as far as im aware he killed alot and the allies werent chuffed resulting in WWII
4. the 100 year war
5. every war the romans had since they believed that they were chosen by a god to be the sole race in the known world


infact i change my statement: all wars i can think of have religion as one of the main reasons

1. The attacks on the WTC on 9/11 where indeed caused by religious fundamentalists, and without the feeling of the terrorists that they executed God's will they probably would never have done this. The reasons for Al-qaida's anti-Americanism is far more complicated though.

2. No, the main cause of the war is the fact that Palestinians weren't so happy with the Israelians starting a new country on their land.

3. Hitler didn't hate Jews because of their religion but because he saw them as some kind of inferior race. He also hated black people, homosexuals and the mentally handicapped. The holocaust wasn't even the reason the allies went to war with him. Brittain and France declared war on Germany because Hitler invaded Poland and they felt threathend.

4. The 100 year war was a war between two royal houses for the French throne, not a religious war.

5. Of course the Romans made up religious excuses why they were invading everywhere, but that was hardly the reason they did. They where looking for power, more land and rescources.


Religion almost never is the reason for a war, it certainly is a good tool to gain support for your cause and to justify your deeds though.

 

[MikeOfThunder]

My mother is Catholic and father is prodestant... neither were in anyway that bothered about what i followed. Although they were suprised when i said i don't believe in god... or rather don't see a reason to worship one if there is one...

My dad has only ever told me that he believes in humanity and that in the end mankind will find its own way... - thats pretty much my believe aswell.

I study history and im not going into talking about whether or not there is proof that god exsists. Instead all im going to say is... There have been around 80 billion human beings (more or less...) throughout all of this earths history and each and every one of them, im sure, has called for gods help at some point... and had no response or atleast i have not witnessed any...

Now believe in god as much as you want, I just have more hope and belief in humanity itself...

 

[Andaxay]

Hmmm. Well, my mother is a complete atheist. My dad is a Methodist, and very firmly believes there's a god. Up until I was around 13, he made me go to church with him (I live with him 'cause my parents are divorced), but then realised that I do not believe in Christianity at ALL, so stopped forcing me to go.

As for me... well, like I said, I disagree with Christianity's teachings. I thought about it on a quiet evening a while back, and couldn't believe how much outraged me. I don't believe in any sort of religion or worship whatsoever. But sometimes, if I'm feeling really low, I find myself praying (not in the "Dear God" sense, just a "I need some help here, please" sense), though I don't really know who to. I don't pray when I'm happy, only when I feel like I've got nowhere else to go. I don't know about an afterlife as such, I like to hope there is, but to be honest I can't see it.

 

[Scobie]

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[Shock and Awe]

Both my parents are atheists and raised me as such. I'm also an atheist, although probably less extreme than my parents. My mum thinks all religions should be banned.

Now thats something you dont hear everyday.

 

[cthulhuween]

My mom was catholic but only in the sense that she liked praying to the saints. My dad and sister and I are atheists, and three of my brothers are protestant, but we never discuss religion. It just isn't important to my family who believes in what.

 

[SecretTacoNinja]

I dunno really, my mum made me go to church on Sundays, a church group thing on Wednesdays, my school was a Church of England one... I never did buy any of it though (or care about it for that matter, I was more interested in plush toys and sweeties), and my parents didn't push it on me (my mum became an Atheist about the same time as I did).

 

[space_oddity]

1. the whole "war on terrorism" we are fighting now is a result from "religious extremists"
2. the whole isreal vs palestine has "religion" as the main cause of the war
3. WWII hitler hated jews which is a religion as far as im aware he killed alot and the allies werent chuffed resulting in WWII
4. the 100 year war
5. every war the romans had since they believed that they were chosen by a god to be the sole race in the known world


infact i change my statement: all wars i can think of have religion as one of the main reasons

1. There is a no such thing as a war on terrorism. The American governments eagerness to declare war on everything it doesnt like (War on Drugs etc) doesnt legitimise its actions. The Sept. 11 bombing of the World Trade Center was religiously motivated, unless you believe the 'Inside Job' theories. The Iraq War didnt have anything to do with religion, it was to secure neclear weapons in the middle east, and now its about establishing a stable government and eliminating Al Queda.

2. I agree, the Israel/Palestine conflict is one of the few religously motivated 'wars', although its more of an insurgency on the palestinians part.

3. WW2 started because Hitler invaded Czecholslovakia. Nazi Germany was an atheist state that was denounced by the Pope in (1941? forget the date) and had no religous motivation, its goal was Lebensraum, the conquest of land for the betterment of Germany. Jews, gays, blacks, gypsies, the disabled and the elderly are among the minorities that were murdered in concentration camps, their own hospital beds, crematoriums etc, during and after 1943, four years after the war started. The 'Final Solution' only came into effect when it became clear Germany was losing the war.

4. The 100 years war was a war over the French throne, it had absolutely nothing to do with religion.

5. From the appointment of Julius Caesar as dictator in 42 BC to the offical adoption of christianity as its state religion in 380 AD, "The imperial government, and the Romans in general, tended to be very tolerant towards most religions and cults, so long as they did not cause trouble." "every war the romans had" were wars of conquest, wars to gain land, slaves, and resources. The notion that they somehow felt they were a people chosen by god or gods is completely groundless, i can only conclude you imagined it out of thin air.

 

[RobCoxxy]

I went to a Church of England Primary school, where religion was forced upon us.

I thought "Fuck that, I have choice" and became an atheist aged 10.

 

[Julianking93]

My family's not religious at all and neither am I. I don't really see the point in it. It's just all about control and restricting the best parts of life. (with the exception of murder of course. But, then again, the bible says to do that to gays, children who speak without spoken to, and people who work on the sabbath.)

But it's weird because the second I say something that Christians or really any other religion would consider blasphemy, they freak out and tell me not to say that, but they turn around and will yell out "God fucking damn it!!!" when they stub their toe or something.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

My parents raised me in a "religion free" environment, but it wasn't exactly atheist... so to speak. Though they did always feel that my mormon friends (I had a lot of mormon friends growing up) were part of a cult.

My parents basically didn't care about religion, my personal opinions are strongly opposed to organized religion.

 

[TaborMallory]

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When I grew up, we went to church on occasion, I went to bible school, and we would say our prayers at dinner. Nothing huge.

(I don't want to sound condescending with this sentence, but here it goes.) After I grew up, I realized that religion is completely pointless.
Nowadays, I follow only the important morals and announce myself agnostic.

 

[Gerazzi]

I grew up in a severely religious family.
I was in the choir.
Your argument has just been made into swiss cheese, thank you for playing.
I used to be agnostic, but then I learned about the plague and holocaust

 

[standokan]

i grow up catolic and i'm happy with it, i got my baptism, communion and the last thing but i don't know how you say it in english well anyway i wasn't forced to do those things (except baptism but i was a baby then).

 

[A Raging Emo]

My mother is religious, my father isn't.

I, personnaly, don't think that there is some sort of super-being in the sky waiting for you when you die. I think that when you die, that's it. No more. Just... Nothingness.

 

[XJ-0461]

No. I think my parents were Christened when the were little, but they've never actively practised a religion, and neither me or my sister have been christened. I don't believe in any God, and never really have.

 

[Gladion]

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Oh, oh, oh! I found a mistake! WW2 started when Hitler invaded Poland, not Czechoslovakia. What did I win? I want the blow-up washing machine!

In all seriousness now, it's nice to see someone actually knowing stuff about history, but you know what they say about arguing on the internet. It's pointless. Can't fight stupidity.

I'd just like to someday go to some renowned, atheist prof. prof. dr. dr. dr. scientist and ask him how even this intelligent people can be as naive as to believe that the wars in this world wouldn't have been faught, had there been no religion at all.
Even the fucking Crusades would have taken place. People just would have had to get other excuses for starting a war, that's it. The leaders throw in the term "religion" just to please the fundamentalists.

Edit: Oh, shit - ontopic:

My parents are from different continents, thus have different creeds, and thus decided for me and my sister to not raise us religiously - they said we should decide ourselves, but I'm agnostic. It's hard to believe in mankind but it's also hard to come up with an explanation of the fact of existence itself.

 

[Tattaglia]

I think my mum was Christian, my dad wasn't, and both parents didn't think that I should be forced into a religion like my grandparents did to my mother. Sounds reasonable to me, and I'm thankful for the chance to believe in whatever I want to.

 

[TheCameraman]

More or less my whole closest family is atheist (parents, uncle, aunt, cousins, grandparents, siblings), although none of them are especially extreme.