Poll: Adamantium vs Lightsaber

[ZippyDSMlee]

Thats a slip up in the films directing.

Call it what you will. It's the first and only time there is actual lightsaber damage shown in the first film. That makes it very canon to me.

The books are canon the films are lower qaulity remakes(tho the first 3 are light years beyond the crappier new films).

 

[Nopenahnuhuh]

Against adamantium, a lightsbaer would win, plain and simple. It can withstand pretty much anything but I doubt it's powerful enough to withstand a direct hit from a lightsaber. Now it this were vibranium it'd be a whole other matter.

 

[warprincenataku]

I think the lightsaber because Adamantium can be melted, as it was melted down to be applied to bone. I really don't think the lightsaber would have any resistance at all, but that's just my opinion.

 

[The Chemist]

my friends and i are currently discussing if you are sliced in half wether you would be cauterized (sp?) right away or if you'd just bleed out. we came to the conclusion you'd be cauterized. i then posed the the question of a light saber vs Adamantium and no one had a real answer just who they think. can you help us Escapists?

Really?

Where are Seth Meyers and Amy Poehler when you need them? Both are FICTIONAL, and not really well explained, at that. If we assume that "light saber" is not just a colloquialism and that it really is focused light, then it would be a laser and it absolutely would not work this way. Since we're clearly throwing out all real science, the question is moot. I don't think George Lucas ever said what the sabers theoretically could and could not cut through.

HEY! way to not be a fun guy and ruin an entertaining and hypothetical conversation.

 

[DaMullet]

Lightsaber will eventually cut through anything, including adamantium.

I think you have a key word there; "Eventually".

I think if you leave a live lightsaber on top of a block of Adamantium for 10 years, yes, it will cut through. But could someone with an Adamantium Sword duel with a Lightsaber? Yes, I believe they could.

If Adamantium has an "indestrutable" molecular structure, it would take significant energy to break down that structure.

Actually the question would be, what is Adamantium's breaking point? Could a piece of it survive on the surface of the sun or in the middle of the sun if you could someone pull it back out?

Does Adamantium get hot? How quickly does it? How quickly does release heat?

Thoughts?

 

[RevRaptor]

Thats a slip up in the films directing.

Call it what you will. It's the first and only time there is actual lightsaber damage shown in the first film. That makes it very canon to me.

The books are canon the films are lower qaulity remakes(tho the first 3 are light years beyond the crappier new films).

That makes no sense, the films came before the books. how are the books cannon and the films not?

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

I think the lightsaber because Adamantium can be melted, as it was melted down to be applied to bone. I really don't think the lightsaber would have any resistance at all, but that's just my opinion.

Its not "metaled" its liquefied.

 

[Derek Westlund]

going by real world physics (don't say it, i know) it is possible to make a similar effect to light sabers with plasma and magnets or magnetics fields through electronics

to make a sword shape would be NEAR impossible but at the rate we are advancing scientifically we might be able to pull it off by the time space travel is possible

back to my point; with that much plasma, melting through anything at the first trilogy rate is likely and possible

there are no metals with a melting point above plasma temperatures so the adamantium blade would pass through with a very tiny amount of melting at the edge and the light saber would go around the adamantium blade with no difficulty but the light saber would have massive restrictions on how fast you could move it based on the strength of the magnetic field and amount of plasma present but it would be significantly lighter and easier to swing quickly or dodge with

basically its just like comparing a dagger to a long sword

it all comes down to who's better

still vote adamantium since it's as easy to use as any other metal sword

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Thats a slip up in the films directing.

Call it what you will. It's the first and only time there is actual lightsaber damage shown in the first film. That makes it very canon to me.

The books are canon the films are lower qaulity remakes(tho the first 3 are light years beyond the crappier new films).

That makes no sense, the films came before the books. how are the books cannon and the films not?

Generally more work put into them to keep up with continuity,ect. Its a glaring error on the film makers part when they did the arm cut off scene, it happens.

Besides "canon" is nothing more than things reconfirmed by a stories continuation, sometimes it needs to be changed sometimes its changed for the worse.

 

[crudus]

Lightsaber. Nothing is indestructible and everything melts.

If the fucking hulk punching it fully enraged doesn't break adamantium, a lightsaber sure as hell wont.

It is brute force vs finesse at that point. You can't punch a robe and hope it will break. It will once you use a knife.

The question is, does a lightsaber cut through EVERYTHING?!?!?! It always seems to, but im supposing it should have a limit, or you could just throw a lightsaber at a death star and slice through it like a hot penny through butter.


In the comic there was an adamantium door, and they tried to open it with a super welding laser. After an hour, it had a scratch on it like on a cd.

So Lightsaber wins!

...eventually.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

going by real world physics (don't say it, i know) it is possible to make a similar effect to light sabers with plasma and magnets or magnetics fields through electronics

to make a sword shape would be NEAR impossible but at the rate we are advancing scientifically we might be able to pull it off by the time space travel is possible

back to my point; with that much plasma, melting through anything at the first trilogy rate is likely and possible

there are no metals with a melting point above plasma temperatures so the adamantium blade would pass through with a very tiny amount of melting at the edge and the light saber would go around the adamantium blade with no difficulty but the light saber would have massive restrictions on how fast you could move it based on the strength of the magnetic field and amount of plasma present but it would be significantly lighter and easier to swing quickly or dodge with

basically its just like comparing a dagger to a long sword

it all comes down to who's better

still vote adamantium since it's as easy to use as any other metal sword

Adamantium can not be melted using any kind of normal heat processIt can liquefied under the right process, more or less. Also it has quirky energy capabilities(when it comes in contact with hellfire it causes the hellfire to explode). SO for the most part its a variant on cortosis the energy absorbing metal that can be used to make weapons that can parry and block a lightsaber directly, there are also vibro weapons that emit a ultra sonic energy field that can do the same tho as much as Adamantium seems to mimic it its not supported in it's fiction.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Lightsaber. Nothing is indestructible and everything melts.

If the fucking hulk punching it fully enraged doesn't break adamantium, a lightsaber sure as hell wont.

It is brute force vs finesse at that point. You can't punch a robe and hope it will break. It will once you use a knife.

The question is, does a lightsaber cut through EVERYTHING?!?!?! It always seems to, but im supposing it should have a limit, or you could just throw a lightsaber at a death star and slice through it like a hot penny through butter.


In the comic there was an adamantium door, and they tried to open it with a super welding laser. After an hour, it had a scratch on it like on a cd.

So Lightsaber wins!

...eventually.

Not everything melts. Now everything is destructible tho

 

[SckizoBoy]

What really gets me is the label 'adamantium'.

And whoever mentioned molecular structure... yeesh. The only thing I can think of is that it's an as yet undeveloped alloy that has a grain structure similar to fibrils in amyloid fibres (i.e. cross-stacked so that it can take impact from any direction and retain integrity).

Anyway, 'real' adamantium is adamantane (derived from Greek for steel 'adamantinos'), a uniform-chair tricycloalkane (yeah, boring as hell, right?):

Spoiler: adamantane

*shoots self for being killjoy*

 

[funguy2121]

my friends and i are currently discussing if you are sliced in half wether you would be cauterized (sp?) right away or if you'd just bleed out. we came to the conclusion you'd be cauterized. i then posed the the question of a light saber vs Adamantium and no one had a real answer just who they think. can you help us Escapists?

Really?

Where are Seth Meyers and Amy Poehler when you need them? Both are FICTIONAL, and not really well explained, at that. If we assume that "light saber" is not just a colloquialism and that it really is focused light, then it would be a laser and it absolutely would not work this way. Since we're clearly throwing out all real science, the question is moot. I don't think George Lucas ever said what the sabers theoretically could and could not cut through.

HEY! way to not be a fun guy and ruin an entertaining and hypothetical conversation.

If you think I have the power to ruin your conversation, then - thanks, I guess?

Hypothetical - hypothesis.

How do you ask a question not wanting to hear an answer?

You could have discussed focused light. You could have brought up the beam katana, No More Heroes' version of the light saber (relax, fanboys, it's called homage), which has a light thread running from one end of the device to the other - it's closer to realistic and rather cool looking.

No serious answer to this post can be anything other than arbitrary and imaginary. So have fun with the imagination! You're on page 2, don't let me stop you!

 

[crypto_jones]

There is no way a laser can cut through adamantium. Adamantium can only be cut by adamantium, really. The metal has been see numerous times resisting all manners of lasers, beams, explosions, hits, cuts. Plus, it's sad to say, but I wouldn't think that a lightsaber's blade is more powerful than... say... cyclop's ray.

To my opinion, IF a lightsaber could cut adamantium, it would take a long time to go through it, and though it would be practical if one would want to go through a wall or a vault, it would be totally innefective in a fight.

T I read that in one of the comic Thor Hammer can only dent Captain Shield (which is made of Adamantium) at best.

I agree, but Cap's shield is made of an adamantium-vibranium alloy, which makes it also energy absorbant, which explain why cap didn't get crunched under his unscathed shield.

 

[Sunstrike]

Depends on what your comparing. Lightsabers would be the better weapon (lighter, easier to use), but most likely in some sort of hypothetical duel both combatants would kill each other. Lightsabers have no actual mass (just energy, aka light), they wouldn't be able to actually block/stop a swing aside from cutting the opposing blade. If adamatium is really indestructible then an adamantium blade would pass through the lightsaber, kill the jedi, while getting a lightsaber to the face.

 

[crudus]

Not everything melts. Now everything is destructible tho

Pretty sure having four states of being is a property of matter. The transition from solid to liquid being melting.

 

[Ein987]

The color of the lightsaber would affect it's cutting potential.
A blue saber would not cut through it all the way because blue is dumb. Blue only works as a training light saber, therefore it could not cut through the adamantium.
Red wouldn't work either. I don't know why, it just wouldn't.
I'm just making all this up; I have no idea what I'm talking about.

I think adamantium might lose against a saber though.

 

[Lucane]

This has been done before but to the answer to your question, I voted Adamanitum.

Wrong.
Cap's shield is actually made from a very special kind of vibranium.

/nitpick

Some stories say it's a hybrid of both.

 

[DaJoW]

Adamantium. Why? Swords can stop lightsabers in KotOR, seems reasonable adamantium could do it.