Poll: Age VS Maturity

[wikicated]

I'd say the mostly go hand in hand, sure you might find a mature 13 year old or a childish 30 year old but there usually the exception rather then the norm.

i haz a perfect example of this my father (32-33ish) enjoys cusing and telling other to stfu over live
i prefer not to use the mic unless talking to my friends

and i shall end this by saying


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haha i never get tired of that

 

[Daedalus1942]

I prefer to play with stoners. they never ***** about anything.

 

[Twilight_guy]

I don't think many kids will have the proper maturity for M or 18+ rated games when they are young. It takes a special kind of 12 year old to be mature enough to handle some situations. The age ratings aren't perfect of course, at 18 you don't magically become a mature member reasoning adult, (Well, not me at least), but they are are a good general markers.

 

[MurderousToaster]

I say maturity, and that immature little screamers should be kept off of the internet in general.

 

[dark-amon]

In the sense off respect against it's maturity as some well aged people act as brats in games, and some kids acts as sophisticated as a university-profesor.
But In some sense I also go for age. the reason is that younger kids are in an age where they take up close to all things they experience as learning. NO, I'm not talking about that they will go out in the streets and fire a gun, but they may be evolve negative views on things and unhealthy distance from their emotions. NOTE THAT only a few would have any chance of reacting this way, but I still think that if such results could be stoped by not letting kids play the games they're too young by burecratical views to play. Than maybe that's for the best.

 

[Guitarmasterx7]

Maturity. Though usually the two coincide.

 

[XJ-0461]

Maturity makes the most sense, but it's a lot harder to enforce/check up on than age.

 

[Maze1125]

Age. Every parent thinks their little bastard is mature enough to handle shit like Manhunt. Then the little retard goes and kills someone and all of a sudden it is the games fault.
The age rating is there for a reason. Your kid is nowhere near as mature as you would have us believe. Do not try to bullshit us just because you are a lazy worthless parent.

I think you're completely misinterpreting the situation.
Yes, the problem is lazy worthless parents, but not that they think their child is mature, but that they are too lazy to bother to check what the games their children are playing are all about.

The problem isn't them assuming their children are mature, but assuming that games are all immature and so suitable for children. Then, when they find out that not all games are like that, they blame the games for not cohering with their expectations, rather than blaming themselves for not bothering to check out the games.

 

[Scarecrow38]

Age. Every parent thinks their little bastard is mature enough to handle shit like Manhunt. Then the little retard goes and kills someone and all of a sudden it is the games fault.
The age rating is there for a reason. Your kid is nowhere near as mature as you would have us believe. Do not try to bullshit us just because you are a lazy worthless parent.

I think you're completely misinterpreting the situation.
Yes, the problem is lazy worthless parents, but not that they think their child is mature, but that they are too lazy to bother to check what the games their children are playing are all about.

The problem isn't them assuming their children are mature, but assuming that games are all immature and so suitable for children. Then, when they find out that not all games are like that, they blame the games for not cohering with their expectations, rather than blaming themselves for not bothering to check out the games.

Ironically I, in turn, think you are partially misinterpreting the situation.

I think it's more a case of such violent tendencies to be a pre- existing condition of which violent games are a symptom. Obviously this doesn't mean people who play violent games (myself totally included) are murderers. I just don't think they are a cause either.

I do agree with you that parents should note game ratings with a degree of seriousness before letting their children get their hands on them. But I totally disagree that allowing them to play them makes such adults lazy or worthless. I assume you play games, I am also sure you played a video game that you were technically unaged for at least once when you were younger, as we all did.

But you don't seem like a serial killer. And I am pretty sure you don't think your parents are lazy or worthless, nor should any of us.

(By the way nothing in this post was meant to antagonise or goad you or anyone. I am just offering my opinions, but I know how sometimes posts can be misinterpreted. Hopefully you get my point.)

 

[Random Argument Man]

I had a 30 year old man who lives a few house away from me. He let his grass grow so he can play in it.

I'm not joking.

 

[Kajin]

I still get a laugh out of this: before I was even old enough to drive I went into a gamestop and bought a copy of playboy mansion:the video game, just to see what would happen if I tried. No parental supervision, underage, buying a game about softcore porn. The store attendent let me buy it. Walking out of the store, 14 yo that I was, I couldn't help but wonder wtf went wrong with that exchange. Did the guy think I was some kind of dwarf?

 

[ThePirateMan]

They usualy coincide, but when I was 12 I was aloooot more mature then some of the older people I meet.
Now I'm 14 and still pretty much the same thing.

 

[LackingSaint]

Regardless of age or maturity, no child should be subjected to Luigi's Purple Coins.

 

[Darth Revan 192]

I think maturity. I started playing on live when I was 12. Nobody ever really had a problem with me. I didn't yell, get mad at the game, or trashtalk other players. Everyone I talked to always assumed I was older than I was and just had a childish voice. But I think part of it maybe was that I was good at the games. Think about it, a kid is easier to accept when he's holding up your team rather than weighing it down. Few people ever really had problems with me. Those who did were quite older and usually were complaining about losing. When I didn't trashtalk back and said they need to get over themselves and that its just a video game, the usual response was to take a shot at my young voice. THESE are mostly the people who are claiming that they're the only one's who should be aloud to play mature games.

I'm not going to lie, a majority of the children I meet online aren't very mature. But I think online play has the ability to bring out immaturity in most people regardless of their age. It's just more common with children. I can see how many older gamers would rather just be rid of all the younger ones to save the trouble of having to sort though them. But myself, just becoming of legal age to purchase these games, I'd at least give them a chance.

Besides, if you DO run into anyone immature, you can always mute them or block communications. I think THAT would be the "mature" thing to do.

 

[TikiShades]

Let me have it because I'm so mature, none of those other kids are as mature as me. They all smell, I'm the special one.

God, I wish I could quote this for a signature.

 

[terraNivium]

Maturity, but the two go hand in hand as with age you get in more mature experiences, increasing your maturity.

 

[Maze1125]

But I totally disagree that allowing them to play them makes such adults lazy or worthless.

I never said it did.

What I said what that parents that were already lazy and worthless let their children play games unsuited to the child.
Not that letting an under-age child play a rated game made you lazy and worthless.

Other then that, I agree with all you said.

 

[Amnestic]

I had a 30 year old man who lives a few house away from me. He let his grass grow so he can play in it.

I'm not joking.

What's wrong with playing in tall grass? Well, except for the threat of wild pokémon attacks...

 

[TPiddy]

I think we're missing the point of this whole thing.... we like to slap a label on the issue, called 'mature', when really it's about a few major things:

1. Is the person able to easily discern between fact and fiction? Real and fake?
2. Is the person able to understand that what goes on in the entertainment industry would not practically apply to real life?

These are the core concerns of a 'Mature' rating system. We don't care if the kids or adults are whiny douchebags or not... game behaviour is not the core of the argument. The system is designed to ensure that no one thinks that since they are able to kill someone and get away with in GTA, that they can do that in real life. They did this with the music industry and the film industry.

Bottom line, kids will get access to 'mature' content regardless of what checks we put in place. So what we should really be doing is making sure the message that entertainment does not equal reality across to these kids.

This all comes down to parenting. When I was 12, 13, 14... I knew and understood that what happened in the gaming world didn't apply to real life, same as in movies and rap videos , but that didn't prevent me from acting like a douchebag when I failed or when someone cheated in a game I was playing. That type of maturity is immeasurable and only comes with experience.

So to define 'age' vs. 'maturity' is a moot point because what the system is there for is to protect the industry. So that irresponsible dad who leaves his gun cabinet unlocked can't blame GTA IV for his 10 year old shooting him in the leg.

 

[barryween]

My maturity level is past the stupid teen phase and the frat boy phrase and I already act like a calm adult.
I expect to be shouting at people to get off my lawn by 24
So yeah... if you don't ACT stupid, you could be 4 and I wouldn't care.