Poll: Am I a Bad Person?

[darksakul]

Well, you're right that they were in the wrong, but don't you think that was being a little mean? I think the third option in your poll says it best really ^^

Mean? He is not as half as bad as I would but those girls friends though if they asked me. I would put the blame on those girls so called friends and make them cry, then tell them to get lost. If I gave out a quarter to every idiot who got hurt or died in my home state, I would file for bankruptcy.

If it was my friends, they would never be able to get to the car keys, even if I have to physically restrain them or even hurt them to keep them from throwing away their lives.

 

[Mr Shrike]

I view this as Darwinism in action and would have done exactly the same as you, OP.

Does it make you a mean, heartless bastard? Maybe, but people never learn.

 

[hyzaku]

/snip...
[sub]Maybe I'm just desensitized...?[/sub]

I have to agree with you. I personally would have done the same as the OP. I hate a lot of things and drinking (to get drunk) and idiocy are two big ones for me. I personally find it "offensive" that someone would dare ask other people (strangers no less) to pay for the mistakes of their idiot friends. You don't want to die or end up in coma? Then try not getting drunk and driving in bad weather. The OP was not being selfish the friend of the drunk drivers was for asking people to pay for the mistakes of stupid people they don't even know. That the friend was offended by the comment is just icing on the cake for my cynical grin, because nothing is more useless than being offended by the truth.

 

[Doive]

I seriously have to commend you for this message. Like really i swear there is no sarcasm in this. It was probably the single most mature thing i have seen on the internet in the past 8 years of me using it. I actually think i understand now. In all honesty i wasn't trying to let the girl hear it. she left to go to another table and i thought i said it quite enough but i didnt back down when i noticed she heard me. I know that im generally a good person it just pissed me off when i got called an asshole when i view it as these girls who are causing unnecessary pain to their loved one to be the terrible people. And that because i dont feel its a good cause to give money to people who don't deserve it. I was just honest enough to say it. Id rather people hate me for the truth than to like me for my lies.

You say you think you understand then you finish by saying you were in the right anyway?!
It doesn't matter if you didn't mean her to hear it, you shouldn't have been saying it in the first place and you deserved to be called an arsehole. Being "honest enough to say it" is not noble in the slightest and viewing it as such makes it even worse. You might prefer to be hated for telling the truth but pick your battles.
You say that HER behaviour pissed you off. This after you called her just dead friend an idiot! If you feel that your behaviour is in any way justified then, as I see it, you are a bad person.

 

[InnerRebellion]

You are honest, but not a bad person.

 

[Manicotti]

You're my hero. I would have probably said something similar such as, "God forbid I stand in the way of natural selection."

 

[Doive]

I got a lot of dirty looks and i was told i was being selfish. Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

It is not your responsibility for what happen or their well being. Nor is was it your responsibility to "baby-sit" three dumb and drunken teenage girls. You were a little to "direct" in answering truthfully, but THE TRUTH HURTS in this situation. The bad ones in this situation are the ones who did nothing to stop the girls from drinking and driving in the first place (especially in the snow). You should of asked their friends, where were they, and if they were with them why in God's name they did nothing to stop their friends from getting hurt and killed.

Honestly I would of told the friends of those girls to "Where the hell you, why didn't you stop them when you had the chance"? followed by a "get lost, it is none of my concern".

So jerks and assholes aren't bad people? So what, pray tell, would be a bad person if not a jerk or an asshole?

The People (the girls so called friends) who stood by doing nothing as their friends got drunk and killed, and the OP is the Bad one?

Being a jerk is not a crime or a sin, sitting by as you let some one throw their life away is.

To your "where the hell were you?" you don't think that the girl going around trying to raise money for her critically ill friends wouldn't be asking herself that all the time? If she was there, this would be a very tactless question and if she wasn't it would be even worse.

There are levels of being a jerk, telling someone that their recently deceased friend is an idiot and following it up with telling them they should have been there is way up there. You might as well tell her you wish she'd been with them so she'd stop bothering you.
This is kind of a response to most of this thread, yes drink driving on ice isn't a good idea, but the lack of compassion shown by the majority of people in this thread is staggering.

 

[Lekonua]

I find your response perfectly justified.

 

[moretimethansense]

you see the problem with punching people is that they tend to punch back and unless,putting it in gaming terms, your strength stat is higher than theirs(which it probably isn't considering your post number) you are the one that needs medical attention

That's where you're wrong!
I managed to get some gauntlets of hill giant strength after a random loot drop so I'm sorted.

Okay so physical assault isn't always the best solution, but I stand by my statement, they have no right to expect help after endangering people like that.


Also, what does post count have to do with my strength stat?
I could be the strong silent type for all you know.

nice but attacking them might send them into a berserker rage increasing their STR significantly plus you don't know what weapons they might have so attacking them physically is risky unless you have a full party.( the post count thing was just me being an a hole I apologize for it). I'll think anyone expects charity but giving is nice and I don't condone scorning people who ask for it in a time of need. But hey we agreed to disagree

True but I always keep my trusty archer companian close at hand, it may not make it easy but it'll help even the odds.

Okay, I'll concede that I spoke in anger, but this kind of thing happens all the time and it infuriates me:
Idiot acts like an idiot and does something that could well kill someone, idiot thenm immediatly gets them damn fool selves maimed and/or killed but through the grace of Aisha somehow don't kill/maim others, then people act like it was some great tragedy and treat me like the arsehole for saying this is the best possible outcome.

Idiot dies, no one else does = one less idiot in the world.
Idiot lives innocent dies = one dead innocent + the idiot gets a chance to do it again.
No one dies = Idiot gets a chance to do it again
no one dies + idiot gets arrested = idiot drains public funds through court, then more than likely gets to do it again.

I don't hate the family so much as I hate the idiots, but I still can't get over their cheek, "Our idiot drove drunk and could well have killed someone you care about, but they got hurt themselves. Give us money for their treatment, money that we more than likley wouldn't give you if our idiot hurt your freind/family instead of themselves."

the post count thing was just me being an a hole I apologize for it

No need to, I just figured you were making a post count-dick size joke and I responded with a jokee of my own.

 

[JoJo]

I personally wouldn't donate to these people, as drunk driving is not only dangerous to the one who is drunk but also to all others using the roads, including pedestrians. There are much worthier causes such as children with serious illnesses or poor people in other countries which I'd much rather donate towards.

 

[darksakul]

For all who called the OP a bad person for what he said are failing to realize 3 things.

1. He has no responsibility to offer money, kind words or any part of this matter.
OP has no social, moral or legal obligations to do or say anything, he said his peace of mind,and last I check people have the right to expresses them selves. As many of you expressing that you think that the OP is a bad person. Also being a jerk is not a crime, Drinking and Driving is.
2. The fact that this whole thing bothers him enough to talk to others.
3. if any one else was there while those girls where drinking, why didn't they stop their friends from playing Russian roulette with driving drunk with snow on the roads.

I had love ones who were injured in car accidents, I was hurt in a accident my self.
The person I would have given money to (if I gave any) would be the victims of others who got hurt because of the stupid foolishness of those 3 girls.

 

[Denamic]

If they went out driving while drunk, it's their own damn fault.
I knew someone who was killed by a drunk driver.
They don't deserve any compassion whatsoever.
Better them than a bystander.

 

[Lazier Than Thou]

I got a lot of dirty looks and i was told i was being selfish. Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

It is not your responsibility for what happen or their well being. Nor is was it your responsibility to "baby-sit" three dumb and drunken teenage girls. You were a little to "direct" in answering truthfully, but THE TRUTH HURTS in this situation. The bad ones in this situation are the ones who did nothing to stop the girls from drinking and driving in the first place (especially in the snow). You should of asked their friends, where were they, and if they were with them why in God's name they did nothing to stop their friends from getting hurt and killed.

Honestly I would of told the friends of those girls to "Where the hell you, why didn't you stop them when you had the chance"? followed by a "get lost, it is none of my concern".

So jerks and assholes aren't bad people? So what, pray tell, would be a bad person if not a jerk or an asshole?

The People (the girls so called friends) who stood by doing nothing as their friends got drunk and killed, and the OP is the Bad one?

Being a jerk is not a crime or a sin, sitting by as you let some one throw their life away is.

There was no question as to the goodness/badness of the girls. This is about the OP, not the girls. If we want to talk about the girls, we can talk about the girls. The problem is that this isn't a related or relative thing. If the OP is a bad person, the girls can still be bad people too.

Also, my question did not assume any morality whatsoever. It was a question of what makes a person bad, if not being a jerk or an asshole. I submit that being a jerk or an asshole DOES make you a bad person. Bad is as bad does. Jerks and assholes do bad things, ergo...

 

[Artina89]

No I don't think that you are necesssarily a bad person, it's just that there is a time and a place for everything and saying that they are stupid for driving drunk on icy roads to the friend/family member's face was just a tad insensitive. I am not saying that you are wrong, and I am not saying that you should donate, but you just maybe offer your condolences or something. If they came over to me I would say "I'm sorry, but I don't have any money right now" or something.

 

[DannibalG36]

I would have done absolutely the same thing.

 

[Warped_Ghost]

Well your not wrong but you might have let here down easier.
Just because your right doesn't mean you have to add insult to injury.

 

[darksakul]

To your "where the hell were you?" you don't think that the girl going around trying to raise money for her critically ill friends wouldn't be asking herself that all the time? If she was there, this would be a very tactless question and if she wasn't it would be even worse.

There are levels of being a jerk, telling someone that their recently deceased friend is an idiot and following it up with telling them they should have been there is way up there. You might as well tell her you wish she'd been with them so she'd stop bothering you.
This is kind of a response to most of this thread, yes drink driving on ice isn't a good idea, but the lack of compassion shown by the majority of people in this thread is staggering.

Hey atleast I cleaned up my language first, what i would of said IRL would have been full of F Bombs, when you have people hurt or lost in an accident caused by a drunk driver you not have pity on the foolish. Look someone square in the eyes who's love one was lost because of the foolishness of a drunkard and tell them you pity the driver. Go ahead, I will wait.... You be lucky if they only slap you in the face.

 

[LitleWaffle]

Okay, while your stand on the situation makes perfect sense, by how you declined you made yourself look like a bad person.

The thing you should have probably said was "Sorry, I can't". Or at least something more subtle or give a more gentle excuse even if it isn't true.

Yes, their idiots and yes, your right. But you don't have to smack their stupidity right in their faces.

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

I would say they probably deserved it for being so stupid, but maybe it would have been tactful to be more polite up front to the friend and withhold your reasoning for not donating to the idiots.

That way, when they call you selfish they are making unprovoked accusations, and you aren't in the wrong.

 

[Mcface]

The endangered the lives of countless people.
THEY are the selfish ones.