Poll: American?s disillusion with WW2

[Karma168]

I agree, to a point. every war game set in WW2 I have played starts at d-day (06/06/1944) now the war had been going on for 6 YEARS! prior to this, where's the events of these years? did we twiddle our thumbs waiting for the super hero americans to arrive?

now this is not a complaint at the real events, its a complaint at the games industry selling to the large American market. there are probably more people in America who buy the games than the entire population of the UK. The industry seems to think the gamers will not care if they aren't playing as the winning side (i.e Americans).

 

[Ninjamedic]

Does Europe not teach about the Pacific Campaign in their schools?

In great Detail.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

You know who kicked arse?

Obligatory Winter War post.

 

[Exosus]

I'm shocked this thread has lived this long. A controversial topic that makes it to 2 pages on Escapist that isn't about piracy is rarer than a pregnant nun at gay pride.

 

[jaketaz]

You seem to have a lot of illusions yourself of Britains importance in the war. The true praise belongs to the russians who killed over 70% of german forces, and where the ones to invade Berlin.

Ninjad. The Russians shed more blood than any other country during WW2. I'm not sure whether or not the U.S was a turning point in the war, we'll never know if the Brits could have handled that shit on their own.

True. The Russians sustained a ridiculously higher number of casualties than did the British, French, and English COMBINED. And on top of that, it was during an invasion of Russian troops into Hitler's private bunker that he killed himself, effectively ending the war. There are parts of Russia that are STILL suffering as a result of their losses in that war.

 

[10zack986]

America has alot of dillusions. According to every Call of Duty and Medal of Honor game, Americans single handedly won every battle ever fought. The Soviets where the ones who won the war, if Germany hadnt turned on them they wouldnt have even come close to losing. Americans helped out, but if masses of German troops wernt being beaten back by the Russians we wouldnt have gotten far at all into France

And by every call of duty game, you mean none of them? COD1, you play as Brits, Americans and Russians. COD2, I think it's the same thing. COD3 sucked, so let's not discuss it. COD4, main American character dies, play as a Brit for the rest of the game. WAW, russians. MW2, Brits.

 

[Ninjamedic]

Snip

Don't piss off Finland!

 

[Dorian6]

The truth of the matter is, That while The United States was instrumental in beating the Germans in WWII, we served more as a distraction to keep Germany fighting on two fronts, while most of the heavy lifting was done by the Soviets.

Not to make light of American involvement. Had we not intervened, Britain would have been fighting alone on the western front and wouldn't have lasted very much longer. This would have allowed Germany to focus all of it's forces on the invasion of the USSR.

 

[Aur0ra145]

Now it?s a common fact that the American army came to aid the allied forces engaged across Europe.
However Americans believed this meant they single handily turned the tide of the war and ?won it?.

How much do you think Americans are bias about their engagement in World War 2?

Personally being English I feel their involvement was instrumental in ending the war a lot quicker but I think the true praise belongs to British and Canadians, but more so the French, those who faught the war from the bloody begining to the bloody end. Their country is a living memento to the fallen, all over and I mean all over France you can find graveyards and a memorials to all the men whom fought and died in that horrendous war.

I appologise for posting within the incorrect threat catagorey

American industry won the war.

 

[BioHazardMan]

Alternative History Time: If America had not join WWII the Japanese would have taken the US

Even though just a thought, would have NEVER happened.

EDIT: I wish that in COD games we would be able to play as the Japs and/or Nazis. But that would be "insensitive" or "politically incorrect"

 

[trophykiller]

Now it?s a common fact that the American army came to aid the allied forces engaged across Europe.
However Americans believed this meant they single handily turned the tide of the war and ?won it?.

How much do you think Americans are bias about their engagement in World War 2?

Personally being English I feel their involvement was instrumental in ending the war a lot quicker but I think the true praise belongs to British and Canadians, but more so the French, those who fought the war from the bloody beginning to the bloody end. Their country is a living memento to the fallen, all over and I mean all over France you can find graveyards and a memorials to all the men whom fought and died in that horrendous war.

I apologize for posting within the incorrect threat category

are you sure your not talking about ww1 with the french? also, it was clearly the Russians who fought the hardest.

 

[guntotingtomcat]

What about fucking Russia. They won at least fifty percent of that war!!

 

[Schnippshly]

I believe none of us were alive then so maybe we shouldn't be arguing about it like we know what we're talking about

 

[trophykiller]

You know who kicked arse?

Obligatory Winter War post.

the best soldier who ever lived comes from Finland. his name is simo hayha.

 

[WOPR]

Now it?s a common fact that the American army came to aid the allied forces engaged across Europe.
However Americans believed this meant they single handily turned the tide of the war and ?won it?.

How much do you think Americans are bias about their engagement in World War 2?

Personally being English I feel their involvement was instrumental in ending the war a lot quicker but I think the true praise belongs to British and Canadians, but more so the French, those who faught the war from the bloody begining to the bloody end. Their country is a living memento to the fallen, all over and I mean all over France you can find graveyards and a memorials to all the men whom fought and died in that horrendous war.

I appologise for posting within the incorrect threat catagorey

Hey, I'm American and I hate what happened in that war!
so please don't make such a sweeping generalization, just because I'm surrounded by patriotic, bigot, idiots doesn't mean I need to get rolled up in the same ball with them!

As for my comment, I blame the government for sugar coating everything, I mean in our history books it kinda skips over all the parts where we were the bad guys, and as for sending the Japanese-Americans to concentration camps (please say I have the right war here...) they NEVER ONCE call them concentration camps despite that that's what they were.

Calls them multiple other things, mainly because they don't want to be compared to Hitler and HIS concentration camps (because he purposely killed off millions)

 

[thahat]

Now it?s a common fact that the American army came to aid the allied forces engaged across Europe.
However Americans believed this meant they single handily turned the tide of the war and ?won it?.

How much do you think Americans are bias about their engagement in World War 2?

Personally being English I feel their involvement was instrumental in ending the war a lot quicker but I think the true praise belongs to British and Canadians, but more so the French, those who faught the war from the bloody begining to the bloody end. Their country is a living memento to the fallen, all over and I mean all over France you can find graveyards and a memorials to all the men whom fought and died in that horrendous war.

I appologise for posting within the incorrect threat catagorey

the french? -laughs-
they were worse then us ( the dutch ) and thats saying something! lol
il hand you the brits and canadians though, they rocked

but yeah. the americans take too much credit.
though, to their credit, they did kinda pulled a giant economical miracle off afterwards, saving a lot of the EU from poverty and onto riches XD
though they should have just made better tanks then those bleeding shermans XD, i mean, you'd think thy get the hint with 7-9 /1 ratios of deaths/kills XD

 

[PeePantz]

Most intelligent people in the US are aware of how involved their country was during WWII. In short, we realize that while Europe was getting bombed to shit, The US stepped in adding fresh strong troops and HELPED end the war. We know that we did not win the war by ourselves, but rather assisted in ending it.

I know that while in school, we learned more about our involvement (because it was during US History), but we covered much more later (during World History). Any US citizen who paid attention during school knows that while the Soviets was a juggernaut, we were more of a shot in the arm.

I have a sneaky feeling that a lot of people, including OP, forms opinions of Americans based on Hollywood and television. Despite what is fictitiously portrayed of us, we're not chest thumping, flag waving, ignorantly patriotic assholes. Yes, there are a bunch of them here, but there is going to be jerkoffs no matter where in the world you are.

 

[llew]

Just bring up Vietnam. That usually shuts them up.

has been done many a time and has proven the most effective method of shutting those who believe this illusion up. although not all think like this, just alot

 

[thahat]

Does Europe not teach about the Pacific Campaign in their schools? Or is it just about the injustices of people like Tom Hanks and Stephen Spielburg investing their own money into stories about certain US forces in WW2, that just happened to be in Europe?

not a lot about the pacific no, then again, it wasent that important in the end, taking all into acount. well, maybe to the australians XD, but not to us anyway.
i mean, its halfway across the globe..

 

[llew]

Just bring up Vietnam. That usually shuts them up.

Implying that we were crushed military wise?

no just implying that america has had its fair share of evil deeds as well as good ones (the good ones usually because it suited them)