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xitel said:
Well, there's a fair number more than I thought would answer yes, and definitely way more than I thought would say they'd use it all the time. I don't know if a hundred or so odd people is enough for a forum, but I would say there's definitely enough support for serious consideration
good to hear it. :]
 

Zombie_Fish

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la-le-lu-li-lo said:
xitel said:
Well, there's a fair number more than I thought would answer yes, and definitely way more than I thought would say they'd use it all the time. I don't know if a hundred or so odd people is enough for a forum, but I would say there's definitely enough support for serious consideration
good to hear it. :]
It would be nice to have one, and it does seem that it would be used, from the votes.
 

xitel

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Zombie_Fish said:
la-le-lu-li-lo said:
xitel said:
Well, there's a fair number more than I thought would answer yes, and definitely way more than I thought would say they'd use it all the time. I don't know if a hundred or so odd people is enough for a forum, but I would say there's definitely enough support for serious consideration
good to hear it. :]
It would be nice to have one, and it does seem that it would be used, from the votes.
Well, the question is whether it will be used a sufficient amount to not constitute a waste of resources on the part of the Escapist. We don't want to have a forum sitting there stagnating. I also have a concern that it will be really popular and whatnot for the first week or so, and then suddenly dry up as the novelty wore off. That's why the first response in the poll, "Yes, every day" was the most important, in my opinion.
 

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theres only one thing that comes to mind when i think of this... Inuyasha for life lolololololololol
 

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(It's late so I've committed the sin of simply posting a reply without reading the entire thread. I apologise if I haven't covered any new ground.)

I would use it, but I don't want one, if that makes sense.

Being sick of anime threads in off topic isn't a good enough reason to create a brand new ghetto (heh) forum for them. If anime threads are getting tedious for the locals it's better to simply ban or rather just discourage anime discussion. Since this is a message board for video games, it's hardly unfair.

The Escapist loses none of its purpose by not catering explicitly to fans of Japanese cartoons. If you want to talk about anime then go to somewhere like AnimeSuki. I like anime but I'm more than happy to keep it out of here, in fact, I'd prefer a moratorium on anime discussion over open acceptance.

We could look at it from another perspective. If we add an anime forum, how long will it be before we have to start adding forums for other miscellaneous or minority interests? We have to draw the line somewhere, so it should be right at the start. If not, we'll turn into IGN.
 

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flare09 said:
No, I really don't like anime. However, if it got all of you guys to stop talking about it on the off-topic forum, I'd be all for it.
Then all the more reason we should get an anime-specific forum.
 

Zombie_Fish

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xitel said:
Zombie_Fish said:
la-le-lu-li-lo said:
xitel said:
Well, there's a fair number more than I thought would answer yes, and definitely way more than I thought would say they'd use it all the time. I don't know if a hundred or so odd people is enough for a forum, but I would say there's definitely enough support for serious consideration
good to hear it. :]
It would be nice to have one, and it does seem that it would be used, from the votes.
Well, the question is whether it will be used a sufficient amount to not constitute a waste of resources on the part of the Escapist. We don't want to have a forum sitting there stagnating. I also have a concern that it will be really popular and whatnot for the first week or so, and then suddenly dry up as the novelty wore off. That's why the first response in the poll, "Yes, every day" was the most important, in my opinion.
That's true, we don't want it going the way of Genre Wars, where it was massive for the first week before dieing out. Also if the "yes, every day" option is the most important, the fact that that one has the least votes so far does seem problematic.
 

smithy1234

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I would use it all the time. Ohhhhh I would spend all day discussing Death Note and Neon Genesis Evangelion!!!

Please make this board a reality! :D
 

xitel

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ILPPendant said:
The point isn't that people want to get rid of anime threads, it's that the anime fans would like a) a separate forum so that the anime stuff doesn't get bogged down under all the other off-topic threads like "what is your favorite type of cookie" or other such things, and b) to allow a forum dedicated solely to the topic so that the responses in them are more in depth than just the casual "I luv Naruto lolz" stuff. Also, the Escapist has already started to support the anime base on the site (which is actually a substantial number, judging by the poll) by means of a dedicated series of anime reviews and the like

Zombie_Fish said:
xitel said:
Also Shniiiip
That's true, we don't want it going the way of Genre Wars, where it was massive for the first week before dieing out. Also if the "yes, every day" option is the most important, the fact that that one has the least votes so far does seem problematic.
Well, it was an extreme, so it was guaranteed to get the fewest votes. But I honestly was only expecting around 15 or 20 people in it at most. The fact that it's almost doubled my expectations is promising, at least in my eyes.
 

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xitel said:
The point isn't that people want to get rid of anime threads, it's that the anime fans would like a) a separate forum so that the anime stuff doesn't get bogged down under all the other off-topic threads like "what is your favorite type of cookie" or other such things, and b) to allow a forum dedicated solely to the topic so that the responses in them are more in depth than just the casual "I luv Naruto lolz" stuff. Also, the Escapist has already started to support the anime base on the site (which is actually a substantial number, judging by the poll) by means of a dedicated series of anime reviews and the like
Hmm. If you say the process is practically underway regardless then I don't really have any room to object. I'm rather like the person who'll object to the construction of a bypass near his house but will quite contentedly drive on it if he wants to get somewhere. Frankly I don't see the need for a dedicated anime forum any more than I see the need for a dedicated Warhammer forum or a dedicated hardware forum - both of which considerably more "hand in hand with a love of gaming" than animation of any sort.

Although... couldn't you have picked a better example of a thread that we don't want to be crushed by the competition from anime than "what is your favorite type of cookie"? :)
 
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It might be worth adding an extra poll option. I think it's a fine idea for all the anime fans out there, but I'd never post in it. The trouble with the no, never option is that it looks too negative and detracts scores from a good idea. =]
 

Mstrswrd

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Yes. A thousand times, yes. I watch a fair amount of Anime (and read a lot of Manga), so, as said, yes.
 

xitel

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The Maddest March Hare said:
It might be worth adding an extra poll option. I think it's a fine idea for all the anime fans out there, but I'd never post in it. The trouble with the no, never option is that it looks too negative and detracts scores from a good idea. =]
The point is that it's not who would like one, but who would use it. I don't want to suggest an idea that would end up wasting their resources. Hence, people who would just look at it, but never post, wouldn't actually lend to it.
 

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xitel said:
You'd actually be fairly surprised.
I'm not sure. Even on anime sites, I never see the kind of focused discussion that gaming receives on many forums, including this one. It seems to be treated more casually in conversation, like light discussion of a TV show the day after everyone watched it.
 

Troublesome Lagomorph

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Sounds good to me. Its not something I'd be on all the time, but I would post. It could also encompass anime style games, I guess. Even if I did not post in it, it would be good.
 

Zombie_Fish

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xitel said:
Well, it was an extreme, so it was guaranteed to get the fewest votes. But I honestly was only expecting around 15 or 20 people in it at most. The fact that it's almost doubled my expectations is promising, at least in my eyes.
If you base it on the amount of votes instead of the percentages, then yeah, it does seem to have potential. And I guess if at least some use it very regularly (Even if that some is a minority), then it could be worth it. And remember, despite the hate it can get round here, anime still has a fairly strong fan base on this site, so people would like it and use it I reckon. May not be used as much as the other forums but it would still be used. Only issues coming then is "How many users is enough?" But since more than twice the amount of people whom you expected to vote for it voted for it, it does seem to stand some potential at least.
 

scotth266

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"A lot" is not an answer. Out of my long enough experience with anime fans in real life and on the internet, and even helping a friend run a (sadly crappy) anime mini forums last year, I can safely and surely say that 99% of the things you would see would exactly be VS threads or fanboys of show A arguing with fanboys of show B.

And don't go with the "maturity" card. Escapist is hardly that much mature then a good lot of forums on the internet - the moderators just do their job and we didn't have a chance to attract too many serious trolls.
Do forgive me for not being particularly loquacious, but when you've been writing a 2,000 word OP over the course of two days you tend to be a BIT burned out in the mental department.

I also didn't play the "maturity card" and I never will. As the saying in my family goes: every village has it's fair share of idiots. It's just that our idiots tend to recieve mod wrath when they do bad things.

As far as discussion points go: there's thematics, art styles, storylines, and tropes, just to throw down some basic examples. Other, more complex threads would doubtlessly emerge over time: that's what has happened in other parts of the forums without fail.
 

Fire Daemon

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The last thing this community needs is more separation. User Reviews, Gaming Discussion, Off-topic... they'd might as well be on different websites. Each forum is different, too different and I'm sure that these differences push people away. We should be posting in all the forums, enjoying our time with everyone. There shouldn't be walls that divide a community. Making another forum encourages the anime fans (or whatever group the forum is designed for) to stick to that one forum and not bother checking out other topics.

We don't need another forum. We have too many as it is, in my opinion.

Not to mention the fact that maybe we will start wanting other forums. A forum for music, a forum for art, a forum for forum design... who knows? Then what will the community be? It'll be a collection of bubbles, smaller communities. Some might think that's a good thing... maybe smaller, more close knit communities are good. They might be, but I don't feel like we need to separate each other.

If you don't think that each forum has different communities, compare Off-topic and Gaming Discussion. You can't tell me that there are people who never post in Off-topic or people that never post in Gaming Discussion. In fact, I'm beginning to feel that are people here who don't play video games.

Besides, I don't see a need for an anime forum. What there is to be discussed about anime can be discussed in Off-topic. There hasn't been so many threads that they are proving a nuisance, in fact I've barely seen any. I think that all non-videogame discussions can stay in Off-topic for now.

Seems like the Escapist is moving away from video games, attracting a wider audience. That is interesting.
 

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Dooly95 said:
Naruto and Bleach threads. Hoo-ray.



I hope I got the sarcasm through, I really do.

I'm all for the idea - if my opinion really mattered - but those two are the the main threads that will be up and run through in my experience, so perhaps a change of name if the forum is created might suffice.

No, I'm serious, all the other threads just sink to the bottom with no one really caring about the show aside from you.
Well although I'm a pretty big Bleach fan I can safely say that most of the Escapist anime community have moved on from this and are into wider spectrum of anime. And you can't keep a topic going without posts.
A new episode comes out every week, as with a new chapter. Experience from other forums that have adapted an anime forum tells that there will be people wanting to discuss what has happened in the 15 page spread or 30 minute gap (and some will go as far as to make both).

I suppose I don't know this community well enough to know if this will be a prediction or just me being negative.

xitel said:
Dooly95 said:
Naruto and Bleach threads. Hoo-ray.
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To be fair, that only happens if you let it. If there's a fair number of actual anime fans posting that bring up the really interesting animes like Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, then the content of the forum will tend to match the content being put into it.
See, but the thing is (and ignoring that well, interesting doesn't necessary mean violent killings for all - because, hey, that's your tastes) that's a niche. Because there are so many different "styles" of anime out, to find someone that will willingly discuss your interest of the season. I will admit since the Escapist does have a lot of members maybe this won't be the case; but the creation of a forum will mean a creation of a Naruto or Bleach thread, and these two (the former more than the latter) will stay on top for a longer period of time. If it does disappear, then someone will create another one. Larger members doesn't necessary mean for a larger dispersion of tastes, I just believe it'll be a larger amount of people posting in the "obligatory" threads.

I did mention I wasn't against this or anything, right?
 

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I think I'd check it every once in a while There's just one small problem here. I'm more into old-school anime like the original Gundam movies, Rose of Versaille, Galaxy Express 999 and the likes. As the poster above me has just pointed out, it's pretty unlikely there will be threads about shows like that, or even if they are made will not get the amount of attention and space like Naruto and Bleach threads.
It's like making a thread about videos on the Escapist for Doomsday Arcade and There Will Be Brawl, you'll be flooded in Yahtzee fan posts.

Oh wait, there is one recent show I follow: Hajime no Ippo New Challenger.
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Also not that big, huh?
Okay...