twasdfzxcv said:
sinclose said:
Thank you both for interesting posts and civil discussion.
The thing is, I never watched Disney cartoons or the Simpsons or any other cartoons for that matter. Firstly, because I didn't think they were interesting, secondly because I don't like the look of them either, and thirdly because my access to cartoons and other comparable media was very limited. Anime and manga are somehow even more annoying to me with their visual style, as I can understand some western cartoons as caricatures, which won't make then any better, though. Animation style has an effect too, the way I see anime is that first there are static poses (I know the whole thing is based on strong poses and stuff), then there's either some colourful lines or a few 2-3 frame animations and a new pose. If there is constant movement, it's the same small twitch over and over again. Now don't ragequit and give me a list of anime series that do things slightly differently, I'm sure that's not the whole truth, that's just how it appears to me. And I don't like it. Low framerate does not indeed mean low quality, but to me it appears as a "so you didn't bother actually animating the thing?" It there's action and a cool fight scene, why not to show it in detail?
When it comes to the subject matters and storylines, I think my point of view is too far to see past the teenagers fighting monsters and underage girls and "tactical" camera angles. It all seem just so daft. I didn't grow up with fairytales or disney garbage, names like Waltari, Steven Ambrose, Mark Twain, Charles Dickens and F. M. Dostoevsky were more familiar to me at the age of 12. That's the kind of storytelling I'm used to, I've never been too fond of television and even less so when it comes to animation. TV shows like Twin Peaks are enjoyable mostly because of the cast's performance and the director/writer development you can follow as the series progresses. X.files was entertaining because it was an excellent parody and it made fun of everything, not because of the story or setting. And it's fun now, not when it came out, I was 15 when the fist episode aired where I live and I didn't understand the series peoperly. It was pre-internet, y'know.
I didn't read comic books as a kid, at first because companies like Marvel didn't really catch on in where I live. And when I did get "action comics", call me pedantic and boring, the scientific inaccuracy was enough to put me off. (Flash, Superman, X-Men)
Now, I like high fantasy literature. But because it is
high fantasy, the setting is something other than this universe. J.R.R. Tolkien is one of my all time favourites. I like fantasy because I can visualise the world myself. Even the LOTR movies were borderline for me, although the astronomical production values made up for it. Magic and other humbug are alright when they're not here, but in an environment where they don't look out of place. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say here, my point of view and approach to anime are quite complicated. And the "otakus" aren't helping. (Btw. with my limited knowledge of the Japanese language "otaku" just means someone who likes something a lot, not a Japanophile, like they present it. Correct me if I'm wrong.)
The word "mature" is thrown around too much, and it most certainly doesn't fit "death note". I specifically said
I was told death note, Helsing, etc are mature. As I saw that they're like I did understand they indeed are "manhunt mature". I actually haven't seen a single anime that would have filled my concept of "mature" on all fronts. Funnily enough you both suggested "Monster", which I in fact disliked very much when it was shown to me. I have quite a few friends who like anime and they've been trying to 'infect' me countless times, with at least 50 or so different series and a dozen movies. It just isn't my thing. I doubt you would like watching something that gives you a headache? [small]No, seriously, I get physical headaches from watching certain types of video, not just anime. The doctors say it's because I have miswired eyes or something. [/small]
