Poll: Anonymous v. LulzSec

[OutforEC]

I want a "both" option.

Although... last 2 months the number of hacks has skyrocketed. I think the hacks are starting to do more harm than good nowadays. But we will see how it all works out. I hope the cooperations are learning from this and start improving their security. Because if Sony gets hacked a second time on a scale as large as the first (PSN outage), I am definitely gonna blame Sony this time.

You do realize that 100% security is impossible, right? There's always a give-and-take when it comes to security vs. usability, and if you want to be able to use a network, there are holes that can be exploited.

OT: If I HAD to, I'd go with Anon, only because they seem less malicious.

Out of the two, I'd side with Anonymous if only for the reason that their name doesn't make me want to punch something

And this, of course.

 

[ninja51]

Anonymous do things to hurt people who limit free speech and people who are generally assholes. Who wouldnt side with them?

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

Anon does good sometimes. Lulzsec is just for lulz. I'll go for anon. But i don't think either or against eachother though.

 

[TheMagicIndian]

I'll side with Anon since they seem to stand for something other than being arrogant douchebags.

 

[johnzaku]

Honestly I can understand Anonymous' position, and it does seem to at least have standards.

LulzSec is just.... I dunno. I mean I kinda think they're in the right but they're going about it too roughly. I mean it's one thing to have a cause rather than selfish gain, but it puts hundreds of thousands of people that are completely uninvolved in really compromised positions.

 

[Sir Boss]

Anonymous have respectable ideals... and style
Lulz security are like that immature kid who just doesn't know any better, only dong stuff for shits 'n' giggles. that being said, they are however somewhat entertaining, in a sadistic sort of way. I do not wish to be rid of them. but yes Anon all the way

 

[NZpablo]

I'll side with Anon since they seem to stand for something other than being arrogant douchebags.

^this.
Annon seem to stand for something and I agree wholeheartedly with their ideals. Call me a sympathizer. I don't think they're in competition though, more paralleling each other.

 

[BigDeadMushy]

not so much that I'd side with neither,since I agree with the ethos of both groups.I'd rather just watch the festivities.

 

[Awexsome]

Anon is tolerable now and then. Their response to the Westboro Baptist Church and Scientology were a good move. They generally only go after corporations or smaller groups that only deserve it. But they would fight to the death against something fighting their widespread piracy or other "freedoms" that they enjoy on the internet too much.

Lulzsec can go die in a fire. And anyone involved can go rot in jail.

 

[Felix 'Solomon' Hultgren]

Anon, hands down.

 

[Diplodocus462]

They're both chaotic evil, as any leaderless group will tend to be. Anonymous has some worthy goals, but with no central leadership they can't stop the nastier elements of the group from undermining their mission.

 

[Echo Delta]

I agree with anonymous' core message very clearly but I agree that it will probably get lost in the execution. From what I have seen though, their DIY activities (report an unscrupulous act by a megacorp and let people fight back on their own) are only as bad as you want to make them. Only a small group does the hacking and IF they have done fraudulent activities to private individuals, there are horrible Ba****ds in every group, does Westboro represent all of the church? Do the gangs represent all of NYC? [/rhetoricalquestion].

That said, if Anon went after lulz, I would probably pick up hacking just to support them while cheering enthusiastically. To muddle a good quote, it would be biblical.

 

[Sticky Squid]

I agree with anonymous' core message very clearly but I agree that it will probably get lost in the execution. From what I have seen though, their DIY activities (report an unscrupulous act by a megacorp and let people fight back on their own) are only as bad as you want to make them. Only a small group does the hacking and IF they have done fraudulent activities to private individuals, there are horrible Ba****ds in every group, does Westboro represent all of the church? Do the gangs represent all of NYC? [/rhetoricalquestion].

Ignoring the rhetorical bit, I thought Westboro was a completely seperate branch and as such did represent the entirety of their church?

 

[Echo Delta]

I agree with anonymous' core message very clearly but I agree that it will probably get lost in the execution. From what I have seen though, their DIY activities (report an unscrupulous act by a megacorp and let people fight back on their own) are only as bad as you want to make them. Only a small group does the hacking and IF they have done fraudulent activities to private individuals, there are horrible Ba****ds in every group, does Westboro represent all of the church? Do the gangs represent all of NYC? [/rhetoricalquestion].

Ignoring the rhetorical bit, I thought Westboro was a completely seperate branch and as such did represent the entirety of their church?

I don't feel like getting into church politics, especially since I am unfamiliar with Baptist specific structure/policies, however the point remains that they are relatively free to interpret the message however they want, same as "members" (if you can call them that) of anon and thus there will always be bad mixed in with the good (or vice-versa).

 

[Dagda Mor]

At first I went with Anonymous,but then I read that lulsec does it for the lulz.I want to change my vote now.

 

[DustyDrB]

I want them both to die.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

I voted Lulzsec (FOR TEH LULZ HAHAHA), but I don't know what to think of either. Lulzsec is random in what it does, and Anonymous has this constantly shifting moral compass.

 

[Lilani]

Well now that they've teamed up, I say neither. I USED to think that Anonymous had standards. That they are essentially vigilantes of free speech who only attacked when provoked: case and point, their attack on Sony.

See, a while before LulzSec got to them, Anonymous DDoS'd Sony's web sites in response to their actions against Geohot. However, they soon realized that their actions were having more of a negative effect on the users than it was on Sony. And the users weren't their target at all. So, they halted their attack [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109252-Anonymous-Says-Its-Not-Finished-With-Sony] in order to find a better way to get to Sony without adversely affecting the innocent users. Which I think was very noble of them, and indicative of a just moral system.

And soon afterward, the LulzSec thing started up. I find it quite astounding that, in spite of the fact that LulzSec is doing everything Anonymous has stood for in the past, they still fully support their actions and have now teamed up to help their cause. Which makes me think:

LulzSec did its first attack on Sony not even a month after Anonymous stopped. That makes me think that perhaps LulzSec is just an apple that fell from Anonymous's tree. In order to openly attack Sony without affecting what the public thinks of them, why not just have a few break off and act under a different name? That way they can do new things in new ways without besmirching the somewhat positive rapport they have with the Internet.

Anyway, I think I still support Anonymous a LITTLE more than LulzSec, but at this point that's sort of like saying I prefer the bottle of milk that spoiled a week ago over the bottle that spoiled a month ago.

 

[TheAceTheOne]

I think they are the same group, just under dfferent names.

*cue scary Twilight Zone music*

In all seriousness, I'd rather go for a third option: Team Poison. But since that's not an option, go Anon! Snazzy masks > Pirate Ships.

 

[Lt.Snuffles]

You heard it here first; Lulzsec will be gone in a few months or weeks. The only reason that they are getting publicity is because of the high volume of attacks they make. Reasonably soon, the volume of attacks they make will shrink as their members get bored or arrested. The level of publicity they get will fall, they will get even more bored because nobody is paying them much attention and they will move on.

In layman's terms: The joke will get old.

Anonymous however will continue to exist for a long time, as it has a moral views which companies and organisations will continue to offend which will give anonymous a reason to exist.

I voted for Anon, because I dislike the WBC. Lulzsec have only irritated me thus far.