Poll: Anyone else think rise of the planet of the apes is just silly?

[Gottesstrafe]

I haven't seen the trailer or read anything about the movie (or seen the original), but I'm guessing the apes didn't defeat the humans in war (yeah, that'd be retarded), but more likely the humans were brought to near-extinction by some disease or w/e that the apes were unaffected by.

That's sort of close to the original plot. In "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes", a disease kills off the world's cats and dogs, so humanity begins domesticating monkeys and apes as household pets. The apes develop an amazing capacity to learn and adapt, to the point that they're eventually transformed over time into a slave class servile to a newly fascist America. They even have prisons and correctional facilities for the more rowdy apes, orange jumpsuits and everything.

This may just be nostalgia talking, but I preferred the original series to the new movies coming out. Sure, they were just as silly as this new one looks but at least they were more plausible. In the original, they were a slave caste taught how to use human technology and bred en masse to fulfill their role as servants and workers. In essence, they could foster revolution, use guns and radios, and covertly sabotage the humans that waged war on them yet depended on them for labor. In this new one, monkeys and apes from zoos and laboratories break loose and start hitting soldiers with modern guns AND tanks with clubs. Besides Africa and South America, where would they possibly pose a real threat? Even if they did somehow manage to take over entire cities and wage gorilla warfare (lol) successfully against our military, last I checked they couldn't swim. Wouldn't islands and Australia be safe? This was demonstrated in the old and new movies, and they certainly couldn't use large ships or airplanes seeing how the height of their transport technology in both series was still horse dependent.


Edit: DAMN! Ninja'd by Thurmer.

 

[badgersprite]

I have trouble taking it serious with the title, "Rise OF THE Planet OF THE Apes".

I call it "APES: Rise of the Fallen of the Planet of the Apes".

OT: Yeah, it looks like one of those silly things that winds up doing a massive discredit to the original. I might watch it purely for the unintentional hilarity, though.

Maybe they'll use GORILLA warfare!

♥_♥

 

[MartialArc]

I mean it looks like it would be an enjoyable watch but...how would apes overrun an entire army? (from the looks of the trailers anyway) but also from the trailers i saw some VERY derpy shit like for example: one of them had a guy charging a friggen gorilla on a horse with what looks like a night stick...i mean...really? ok sure they were on a tight bridge but still..i don't think APCs are THAT big...: alright maybe an ape would be able jump into a helicopter if it's close enough but that brings up another point...how would apes...survive airstrikes of any kind? not to mention Tanks...and other armored vehicles.
I don't know i might be thinking too much about it
or i may be fucking retarded...anyway what are your thoughts on this?

Do you know how many tanks and APCs the military just leaves lying around for emergency use?

If your answer was FUCKING ZERO, then you're right. It takes time to get an organised force like that around, and in the event of something like gorillas becoming smart and attacking, shit's gonna go down long before the military will be able to help out. Of course the whole premise is fucking retarded, but the fact of the matter is that we don't exactly have a fast response. We have the police force around, but in the event of something as huge as this, they won't suffice.

Yes, its not zero. We've taken a hit to readiness what with the wars in the middle east but to say we have nothing on standby is quite erroneous. Anyone that happens to live near a military base with some kind of hardware would be able to tell you that there is in fact tanks and LAVs laying around, in fact everything that isn't actively deployed in the middle east or getting repaired is just laying around. And there are recall procedures for personnel as well.

Short of a simultaneous attack on every military base you could expect an armed response. And since global warming is killing off their habitat, that would leave like 3 apes per base. So there you go, don't want an ape invasion? Drive an SUV.

 

[chronicfc]

When I watch it I think "Can't you just, you know, fly the helicopters slightly away from the bridge, it's not as if the mounted guns are shotguns or anything". So no, I would be asking myself too many questions.

 

[Aprilgold]

The silliness adds charm, its the back story for planet of the apes. To the whole, take over the world, it technically is from a man made drug, making them super smart, strong and giving them greats amounts of endurance, turning them into the king kong of super things. The point is, its a GOD DAMN movie, it being silly shouldn't be any different then it being enjoyable. Its why I hate realism in games, BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED SOMETHING BORING, WE NEED SOMETHING TO ENTERTAIN US! Its not like realism has a place in BOTH mediums, but choosing to leave silliness out of either medium deprives it of uniqueness.

Edit:

like al ot of current movies you got to leave logic at the door and just enjoy the movie

Those movies failed when movies studios wanted to draw a crowd, why would it work now? People got tired of 3D, and they hated the nonsensical plots of the 3D movies when TV first came around and threatened movies. Saying that "Oh if you don't think too hard, its a good movie" but in reality if you wanted random entertainment why not watch Family Guy, Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1, or Robot Chicken? At least they don't charge you money every time you see it.

Its a repeat from the past from an industry that refuses to adapt to the modern world.

Thanks for bringing up a loop hole, now let me crotch-block it like a pro.
All good movies have several key elements, one, relatable characters, any character you can't relate with on ANY level is a bad character. Two, a story that is coherent, this is why fantasy and sci-fi are still around, because you can follow their stories all throughout the movie, allowing for easier time noticing and realizing what happened, giving a touch of feeling, they also have a central goal that eventual happens or does not. Third, the silliness ADDS charm to a movie, doesn't take anything away, I've been seeing people pull the whole REALISM trap card a lot, guys, realism is not fun, it ain't, games, movies and television are supposed to take us out of our own world and show us or even let us explore a much more silly, much more exciting, different world. Silly is praticually every action scene in every movie that ever lived, a realistic situation, violence would be the last card pulled unless its something drastic enough to pull it first, I myself have never HAD a fist fight, brutal arguments, but NEVER a fist fight, thus making fist fights silly a concept to myself, so seeing them in a movie, if I were serious, and both of the upper points weren't filled to involve me in the experience, I would say that the movie is too silly.
There, you just got crotch-blocked.

 

[Pyro Paul]

Rise of the Planet of the Apes was already made. it is a mash up of one of the 4 off shoots of the orginal Planet of the Apes back in the 1970's. Escape/Conquest of the planet of the apes more specifically.

the basic gist behind all of this is that the Apes escape humans (not defeat them) whom subsquently nuke themselves into oblivion for reasons unknown. then in the post-apocolyptic world, the apes are the ones that gain power, being more capable of surviving in the wild.

 

[karloss01]

Whenever I see the trailer, I can't but just think, "Why don't we just shoot them?".

Sidenote: I give good odds there'll be some PETA-esque protester saying we shouldn't fight the apes that in a truly ironic and never before seen twist is killed by the apes.

nah dude
i don't think anyone would defend something that would (and will) rip your face off
...then again...that may be the case

PETA would defend them, they defend every animal and a lot of animals would bite/rip our faces off as its the natural thing to do. a talking ape would just make PETA protect them harder.

on topic: yeah its comepletly stupid, i didn't like the previous films either so i won't be bothering with it.

 

[DashRollRush]

I still think they should just rename the movie to "The Origin of Gorilla Grodd", and be done with it.

 

[BoogieManFL]

There is only so much one can infer from the previews but it does look a little silly to me.

Sorry, George, but my assault rifle trumps your physical superiority.

In general that's a problem I have with many movies about creatures or monster movies. They often exaggerate their abilities too much. Yes, I know it's Sci-fi but a good Sci fi movie to me is one that seems at least sort of feasible and doesn't take too many liberties with reality. Like Super 8 recently.



**Super 8 spoilers to follow***

It's a decent movie but they made the creature too powerful. It seems like we were generally meant to feel some sympathy for it, being held away from home and such.. But this creature, without any hint of technology can knock over tanks, engage a small army while building some super space ship out of scrap it gathered from around a town? Killing many innocents as it does so. How does it take an m16 on full auto to the face at point blank range and come out completely unharmed?

Yeah, it's a movie. But it was made to be virtually impervious and ultra strong. How did they keep it trapped? How much danger is it really in? The movie would have been better, in my opinion, had they not displayed it as virtually invincible.

 

[Sizzle Montyjing]

As soon as i saw the trailer i hated it.
I hated the story, i hated the name, i hated everything about it.
Looks completely ridiculous and i won't see it.
... Wow, that was pretty serious comment there.
Better just say that The rise of the planet of the apes is a ridiculously stupid name.

 

[Stilkon]

Has NO ONE seen the ORIGINAL Rise of the Planet of the Apes?

Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_the_Planet_of_the_Apes

Alright, so it's Conquest instead of Rise of the Planet of the Apes, but it's the same plot, and it seems that everyone is acting like the original Planet of the Apes Series never happened. There were five movies (that's right, five) and Conquest is the fourth.

/nerd rant

Anyway, the original Conquest was kinda silly too, so naturally the remake is going to be as well. This is based off of a 1970's sci-fi b-movie, after all.

 

[Zantos]

Planet of the Apes was a silly movie, it didn't stop it becoming a classic. Not that I'm saying this one will become a classic.

You know what, I think it might be quicker to list films that aren't a bit ridiculous.

 

[MrJKapowey]

Spoiler: Basically what happens in the trailer

Right, so the simians are pissed off and lead by a genetically enhanced genius monkeh. They break out and (presumably) kill every one at the research facility. Someone alerts the authorities and for whatever reason the apes + Govt. enter into a contact on (what looks like) the Golden Gate Bridge as opposed to somewhere near to the secret research facility.

The monkehz push an overturned bus out of the fog/smoke (from a smoke grenade maybe?) and immedietly the humans open fire on the bus. None of the rounds punch through and the monkeys reach the humans, beat them shitless and a gorilla jumps 10-15 meters into a helicopter cockpit.

Erm, that's all of the silly bits I can remember.

So, basically there are genetically engineered monkeys on the rampage and they are contacted (engaged) by...

Not special forces

Not regualar military units

But an armed response unit from the local Police force.

Clever government... Herp Derp.

Assuming this is only the first engagement, I would immedietly surround the area with regular army soldiers, preferably heavy infantry with L and MMGs. Make sure they have stuff like SMAWs and UGLs to counter larger creatures like the massive gorilla. Then sweep the area heading inwards with thermal imaging from things like satalites and sensor ridden aircraft. WHenever I find a thermal signature I send a blackhawk to check it out. They kill it from the air (if possible) and if not then it drops off a heavily armed Spec Ops squad with big guns (like the SCAR - 7.62 NATO). EVery thing is dead eventually and I then make sure that those fucknuts who came up with the idea never get funding again.

I would make a good fictional US president.

 

[Torrasque]

like al ot of current movies you got to leave logic at the door and just enjoy the movie

Kind of like how whenever any stupid commercials come on, I'll complain about how they don't make any sense, but people around me will be "its just a commercial, lawl"
>.>

 

[mireko]

I wonder if there's gonna be a huge twist at the end, like it was never Earth to begin with.

I'd watch that.

But seriously, looks shit.

You depressives! You built it!

BLESS YOU! BLESS YOU ALL TO HEAVEN!

[sub]But yeah, it'll suck.[/sub]

 

[Spaloooooka]

Snip

And this explanation makes this new one look less silly how?

Ok I got confused. What I meant was...ur mum

OT: Talking apes is silly. Most movies are silly. Who cares? They're just remaking the old ones so it actually looks swish and they can make more monies from people who never heard of the old ones.

 

[Woodsey]

I think it looks good. If the story is decent outside of the obvious logical issues (unless they address them in the film, of course), and the dialogue is good, and so is the acting, then yeah. I'll enjoy it.


And the original Planet of the Apes is a stupid film too so... *shrug*

 

[siahsargus]

Is that some sort of sequal the to 'planet of the apes' movie? That one was already just plain bad. I'm certainly not watching any sequal to it.

Basically my opinion. They're going to have a hard time explaining any of the already crazy elements in the trailers. I don't think I will be seeing Rise OF THE Planet OF THE Apes.

 

[Twilight.falls]

I still think they should just rename the movie to "The Origin of Gorilla Grodd", and be done with it.

No joke, the first time I saw the trailer I thought of Gorilla Grodd.

Then I realized the main character wasn't a gorilla, and I was slightly disappointed.

Anyway, I thought the trailer was kind of cool, but then again, I didn't see the original Planet of the Apes.