Damn, caught out by the grammar police.N.1 Ninja Of 2010 said:Yes, Yes they are.
Fixed that for you.Talshere said:Do you even need to ask that question. You're on a nerd forum. Of COURSE lasers are cool!
Seriously?Teoes said:So far, 4 people have clicked the wrong button.
5secondfilms! I love those guys!Freedomario said:ive been to a lazer light show once, it was awesome
It's basically just what you get if you attempt to apply an equilibrium equation (the Boltzmann equation) to a non-equilibrium system. It does make more sense if you consider β=1/k[sub]B[/sub]T though. Which is why some physicists prefer to think of β being fundamental, rather than T.Zeeky_Santos said:A few. Your joke about lasers still being cool because they have this negative temp was silly because you knew the definition of negative temp, being hotter than hot and all that shiznit.Lukeje said:What is the point you are trying to make?Zeeky_Santos said:The information I gather from the article is very interesting.Lukeje said:A negative Boltzmann temperature. One can define a thermodynamic temperature in terms of the Boltzmann distribution (this is an equilibrium distribution). Lasers are inherently non equilibrium and can be interpreted as having a negative (thermodynamic) temperature. It's a quirk of statistical thermodynamics. Here, have a wiki [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature] article.Zeeky_Santos said:There is no such thing as negative temperature in science.Lukeje said:Well they function due to the fact that a negative temperature is created[footnote]i.e. a non-Boltzmann perturbed state[/footnote], so yes. They are rather cool.
[sup]Do you see what I did there?[/sup]
Seeing as heat energy is kinetic energy on an absolutely tiny scale (atoms), all temperatures are above Absolute Zero. AZ is when the atoms stop moving. You cannot have a negative temp. If you mean to say that when a laser is produced, the temperature is lowered, that would be acceptable.
"A substance with a negative temperature is not colder than absolute zero, but rather it is hotter than infinite temperature. "
It also leads me to believe that physicists should not be put in charge of naming or defining things.
1. Nothing is beyond infinity, that's fucking impossibly. The very meaning of infinity is that it has no end and thus possible was for anything to be greater in value.
2. It's still hotter dude, so this whole negative temp thing doesn't mean lasers are cool.
3. Did that Boltzmann guy miss the part of simple mathematics where positive and negative were joined at Zero, not ended on either side.
Yeah, it makes sense this whole laser thing if you ignore the logical inconsistencies. What with the end of infinity thing.
My other point was that physicists are dumb-asses when it comes to naming things, or even ordering things mathematically. I mean seriously, Negatives are greater than positives now? And there is a finite end to infinity? And there is a zero on either side of the scale?
i am loving the physicsLukeje said:It's basically just what you get if you attempt to apply an equilibrium equation (the Boltzmann equation) to a non-equilibrium system. It does make more sense if you consider β=1/k[sub]B[/sub]T though. Which is why some physicists prefer to think of β being fundamental, rather than T.Zeeky_Santos said:A few. Your joke about lasers still being cool because they have this negative temp was silly because you knew the definition of negative temp, being hotter than hot and all that shiznit.Lukeje said:What is the point you are trying to make?Zeeky_Santos said:The information I gather from the article is very interesting.Lukeje said:A negative Boltzmann temperature. One can define a thermodynamic temperature in terms of the Boltzmann distribution (this is an equilibrium distribution). Lasers are inherently non equilibrium and can be interpreted as having a negative (thermodynamic) temperature. It's a quirk of statistical thermodynamics. Here, have a wiki [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature] article.Zeeky_Santos said:There is no such thing as negative temperature in science.Lukeje said:Well they function due to the fact that a negative temperature is created[footnote]i.e. a non-Boltzmann perturbed state[/footnote], so yes. They are rather cool.
[sup]Do you see what I did there?[/sup]
Seeing as heat energy is kinetic energy on an absolutely tiny scale (atoms), all temperatures are above Absolute Zero. AZ is when the atoms stop moving. You cannot have a negative temp. If you mean to say that when a laser is produced, the temperature is lowered, that would be acceptable.
"A substance with a negative temperature is not colder than absolute zero, but rather it is hotter than infinite temperature. "
It also leads me to believe that physicists should not be put in charge of naming or defining things.
1. Nothing is beyond infinity, that's fucking impossibly. The very meaning of infinity is that it has no end and thus possible was for anything to be greater in value.
2. It's still hotter dude, so this whole negative temp thing doesn't mean lasers are cool.
3. Did that Boltzmann guy miss the part of simple mathematics where positive and negative were joined at Zero, not ended on either side.
Yeah, it makes sense this whole laser thing if you ignore the logical inconsistencies. What with the end of infinity thing.
My other point was that physicists are dumb-asses when it comes to naming things, or even ordering things mathematically. I mean seriously, Negatives are greater than positives now? And there is a finite end to infinity? And there is a zero on either side of the scale?
Madara XIII said:I dare you to say this isn't cool!!!
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Whats a LAZER?....its LASER, Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation, not, Light Amplification by...wait...ummm...what?zfactor said:IM A FIRIN' MA LAZAR!!!
Sorry, had to...
Yes they are cool.
No it wouldn't, the beam would dissipate somewhere down the road. LASERs do not project indefinitely.Ephraim J. Witchwood said:Main component isn't a LASER, but superheated plasma in a magnetic envelope. If it were a LASER it would just go on to infinity.AugustFall said:Let's examine the greatest weapon ever concieved: The Lightsaber.
Main component? LASER!
woooo go lasers.
You can't compare arguing the mechanics of a fictional weapon with correcting physics. Also you started itEphraim J. Witchwood said:I could say the same to you. XDAugustFall said:No it wouldn't, the beam would dissipate somewhere down the road. LASERs do not project indefinitely.Ephraim J. Witchwood said:Main component isn't a LASER, but superheated plasma in a magnetic envelope. If it were a LASER it would just go on to infinity.AugustFall said:Let's examine the greatest weapon ever concieved: The Lightsaber.
Main component? LASER!
woooo go lasers.
I honestly can't believe you felt the need to correct me on this.
Naheal said:Madara XIII said:I dare you to say this isn't cool!!!
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Magical girls with frikkin' lazer beams!