Poll: Are you Homophobic??

[JordanMillward_1]

Homophobic is an inaccurate term. Some people don't FEAR homosexuals. Instead, said people are utterly REVOLTED by them. Fear and revulsion are two different things. Just saying.

Which is why the definition of homophobia doesn't just cover fear of, but aversion to, hatred of and discrimination towards homosexuals or homosexuality.

 

[Nieroshai]

I believe it's a poor lifestyle choice

You are, however, assuming it's a choice for everyone. Just because you had bisexual leanings at one point (most people have at one point or another), doesn't mean that people who actually are bisexual/homosexual choose to be like that.

Plus, how is it a "lifestyle"? You don't say that straight people have a "heterosexual lifestyle" do you? I'm bi, but I don't let it affect how I live my life other than who I happen to find attractive.

You're going off of the "fact" that people can be born that way. Other than being potentially bicurious or disinterested in women, this is not the case. You aren't born wanting your own sex. You're born with an eventual desire to reproduce, or at least attempt to do so. Your final sexuality is cemented in your experiences during puberty. And yes, a lifestyle. Sexuality is a lifestyle. Diet is a lifestyle. Hobby is a lifestyle. Many of our actions can be classified as such if they are personal choices. Any sexuality is a choice, because you are easily capable of being celibate. It is how you interact with (insert partner here). Therefore heterosexuality IS a lifestyle, as is celibacy. And your nature does affect your life, because you interact differently with other genders than those with other sexualities do. People still think I'm gay just because I'm more comfortable around females as friends than guys. I could go on much longer, but I don't want to sound like a jerk.

EDIT: I do not mean to say entirely that it's always a personal choice, merely that it's not genetic. Psychological doesn't mean voluntary. It is probably a product of experiences that coompletely changes the way a person thinks.

 

[The_Amazing_G]

I hate the term 'homophobic'. if someone is predudaeced to gay people, is it usaully not a "phobia". A better word to use would be "homosexism".

Anyway, I am a little uncomfortable around people who are openly gay with other gay people, but I am also uncomfortable with PDA's made by "straight" people, so I guess I am not homophobic. I have no problem with gay people at all, but I prefer people who make no big deal about being gay (I have a lot of respect for people like that) to people who are openly gay and "in your face about it", like say, a gay pride parade.

 

[Kortney]

I accidentally clicked yes.

But the truth is no. My twin is bisexual and has been in a relationship with a girl for about a year now. I know her better than I know myself and I can tell she has no control over who she is attracted to and I would never hate someone for that.

 

[The_Amazing_G]

I believe it's a poor lifestyle choice

You are, however, assuming it's a choice for everyone. Just because you had bisexual leanings at one point (most people have at one point or another), doesn't mean that people who actually are bisexual/homosexual choose to be like that.

Plus, how is it a "lifestyle"? You don't say that straight people have a "heterosexual lifestyle" do you? I'm bi, but I don't let it affect how I live my life other than who I happen to find attractive.

You're going off of the "fact" that people can be born that way. Other than being potentially bicurious or disinterested in women, this is not the case. You aren't born wanting your own sex. You're born with an eventual desire to reproduce, or at least attempt to do so. Your final sexuality is cemented in your experiences during puberty. And yes, a lifestyle. Sexuality is a lifestyle. Diet is a lifestyle. Hobby is a lifestyle. Many of our actions can be classified as such if they are personal choices. Any sexuality is a choice, because you are easily capable of being celibate. It is how you interact with (insert partner here). Therefore heterosexuality IS a lifestyle, as is celibacy. And your nature does affect your life, because you interact differently with other genders than those with other sexualities do. People still think I'm gay just because I'm more comfortable around females as friends than guys. I could go on much longer, but I don't want to sound like a jerk.

EDIT: I do not mean to say entirely that it's always a personal choice, merely that it's not genetic. Psychological doesn't mean voluntary. It is probably a product of experiences that coompletely changes the way a person thinks.

I'm going to have to agree with that. I have not seen any proof that it is form birth. I am inclined not to believe that it is because from a "natural selection" point of view, being gay would be a defect, becasue it keeps the said persons genes form being in the gene pool. And yet, there is a increasing population of gay people in each generation. Logically, it does not make sense to be born with it. If you can be born with it, then it has to be genetic, and it can not be genetic. It is impossible. The only other explanation is for it to be a defect, and I do not think that it is. Therefore, it only makes sense that it is a lifestyle choice. I'm not saying people WANT to be gay (I'm not saying they don't either), I am saying it is a point of view born from circumstances that have nothing to do with birth.

 

[ALuckyChance]

I'm going to have to agree with that. I have not seen any proof that it is form birth. I am inclined not to believe that it is because from a "natural selection" point of view, being gay would be a defect, becasue it keeps the said persons genes form being in the gene pool. And yet, there is a increasing population of gay people in each generation. Logically, it does not make sense to be born with it. If you can be born with it, then it has to be genetic, and it can not be genetic. It is impossible. The only other explanation is for it to be a defect, and I do not think that it is. Therefore, it only makes sense that it is a lifestyle choice. I'm not saying people WANT to be gay (I'm not saying they don't either), I am saying it is a point of view born from circumstances that have nothing to do with birth.

"In 1993, linkage between homosexuality and chromosomal region Xq28 based on molecular approaches was reported. Nevertheless, this was not confirmed in later studies. Recently, a wide search of the genome has given significant or close to significant linkage values with regions 7q36, 8p12 and 10q26, which need to be studied more closely. Deviation in the proportion of X chromosome inactivation in mothers of homosexuals seems to favor the presence of genes related with sexual orientation in this chromosome. There is still much to be known about the genetics of human homosexuality."

- Influence of genetic factors on human sexual orientation. (PubMed)
[small](taken from a post from the religion and politics subforum)[/small]

You also seem not to know the evidence showing that mothers with many sons happen to have a higher chance of their youger sons being gay. I'd look up a source for that, but you know, effort.

 

[TheLaofKazi]

The problem with this thread is;

A: This is a bait thread. Its one of those threads whose title and or subject are designed solely to get people to click on it, and comment. Those annoy me to no end, but its not about me, its about all the little people, so...

B: This topic is a rather lame one anyways. Topics about gender differences, race differences, sexual differences, and to a lesser extent, political and religious ones are ALWAYS lame. Because frankly, its been done before. See Ref A. Its the equivelance of cashing in on a cow, only the cow has already been beaten to death six times prior to your arrival. (And, making a broad, unfounded/completely founded assumption about the age-range of the forum base, this cow was most likely beaten to death six times before you were even born.) And finally...

C: No one ever tells the truth anyways. Thats the lamest part of all. No one ever admits to being a homophobe in person. No one ever admits to being anti-black, anti-gay, or a chauvinist, in public, in honesty. Because we are a culture of people who have been taught the fear of the Politically Correct.

Think about that for a second. When have you ever seen your average friends admit to being against womens sufferage? Or against 'equal' rights between the races? Never. Because admitting that would make you a social outcast instantly. People are not free to admit how they feel about a "hot button" topic, and so they tow the line. The best anyone can do these days is couch their statement carefully, with the old throwaway line.

"Im not a racist... but..."
"Im not anti-gay or anything, but..."

So... I feel this post is a waste of time. Its certaintly gotten alot of bites, but thats because most fish have poor vision, and bite whatever shiny thing you toss infront of it.

Whiskey Echo!!
mythgraven

I agree. I don't mind discussion on these sort of hot topics, because sometimes they can interesting (and there has been some in this thread, because at least the community here is generally the more thinking type), but when you just spout out such a generic issue with no real room for anything other then people stating their thoughts, with no creative spin on the discussion to get people to think outside the box, it just feels so pointless. It's just a simple "yes or no" kind of thing, with no deeper look into the issue being the basis of the discussion. A lot of hot topic issues tend to be like that with the whole "pro-life or pro-choice" for abortion or "yes or no" on legalizing marijuana. A lot of the more complex opinions that aren't just on one side tend to get overlooked amongst all the black or white ones.

I especially get annoyed with the whole "I don't hate gays or anything, but I don't like seeing them kiss in public" crap. Sure, with many people, homosexuality isn't their thing, that's all fine and good. But being utterly disgusted by it? Honestly, just fucking look away. If it really bothers you that much, then congratulations, that's what happens when you grow up in a fake, superficial society that fills your mind with a very narrow idea of sexuality while still acting like they aren't intolerant and close-minded. Go to Europe and you will see women walk around topless. It's not a big deal there, because well... it isn't. and fortunately, the culture there agrees. Every culture has it's own arbitrary bigotries, and at the very least I would like to see people become a bit more conscious of how their minds have been molded by those around them, so they can at least just say "I know seeing some men kissing in public is harmless, but I'm not used to seeing it."

 

[Dags90]

I'm going to have to agree with that. I have not seen any proof that it is form birth. I am inclined not to believe that it is because from a "natural selection" point of view, being gay would be a defect, becasue it keeps the said persons genes form being in the gene pool.[footnote]See my post here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.237559-Poll-Are-you-Homophobic?page=11#8504912 [/footnote] And yet, there is a increasing population of gay people in each generation[footnote] I've never seen that proven, most sociologists believe its remained pretty constant (and is constant across cultures). What has changed is acceptance, leading to more open homosexuals.[/footnote]. Logically, it does not make sense to be born with it. If you can be born with it, then it has to be genetic[footnote]Ever hear of thalidomide?[/footnote], and it can not be genetic. It is impossible. The only other explanation is for it to be a defect, and I do not think that it is. Therefore, it only makes sense that it is a lifestyle choice. I'm not saying people WANT to be gay (I'm not saying they don't either), I am saying it is a point of view born from circumstances that have nothing to do with birth.

There are so many problems with this post it makes my head hurt. Going to deal with them point by point in footnotes.

 

[William Dickbringer]

I actually know a few gay guys who are funny as hell one of my friends is a bisexual (but a little more of a lesbian) and she's one of my best friends and one of aunts is gay I really just get along with them as much as I would with a straight guy

 

[Kuroneko97]

Not at all. It catches me a little by surprise when I hear someone I know is, but I'm not afraid or disgusted by them. Two of my aunts are gay, and both my siblings each have a gay friend. I love my aunts, and those friends are very nice in my opinion. I just see homosexuals as people with a different interest than me.

 

[CarpathianMuffin]

I'm not the least bit opposed to homosexuality, though as with most things, it bugs me when people are so... I wouldn't say open, but almost obnoxious about it.

But yeah, I'm completely accepting.

 

[The 11th Plauge]

i have no problem with them, I just dont want to hear about it myself. you can be gay, but if you dont want me spouting christian stuff, dont go spoting gay stuff as well

 

[RatRace123]

Not at all.

 

[Guitar Gamer]

I'd like to think I am not, however my interaction with homosexuals is at such a minimum state (due to the town I was brought up in being rather small and with gays being a minority by chance there is none or at least such a small population or they are so subtle that I don't know that I have) that I can't really say, I can say that I have no problem with gays and them expression their love in public any more than I do for heterosexual Public displays of affection, who knows maybe I'll turn out to be a bigot if I ever met one (which I am quite sure I will since I plan on moving to a large city in the future)

 

[Lineoutt]

I'm pretty much of the "live and let live" philosophy, but though I'm not proud of it I do get a bit homophobic if I'm being hit on by a female.

As far as PDA is concerned I don't like seeing it from any couple, regardless of their genders/sexes. I'm a prude like that. :|

I agree with that. It's awkward when you walk in on anyone making out. Oh and yeah I am a bit of a tomboy so I got hit on by a lesbian thinking I was a lesbian and it freaked me out.

...Then again when I got hit on by a weird guy it also creeped me out so idk.

 

[WOPR]

well there's 45 people that need to be killed off...

EDIT: if that means being gay is a "moral sin", if being homophobic is a "moral sin" then I withdraw that statement, everyone has phobias (mine is being mauled by animals)

EDIT 2: make that 55 people

 

[blankedboy]

I completley support the rights and equality of the BTGL (or whatever) community

That said, I hate...hate "camp" people. No matter their sexual preference. They are attention-seeking, loud, brash people who annoy me and annoy everyone else.

Woohoohoohoo, I'm so ambiguously camp!

 

[Josdeb]

I completley support the rights and equality of the BTGL (or whatever) community

That said, I hate...hate "camp" people. No matter their sexual preference. They are attention-seeking, loud, brash people who annoy me and annoy everyone else.

Woohoohoohoo, I'm so ambiguously camp!

Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged?

 

[skeliton112]

No I am not afraid of the same.

Me being picky cause I hate that word aside I am not bigoted against homosexuals.

 

[blankedboy]

I completley support the rights and equality of the BTGL (or whatever) community

That said, I hate...hate "camp" people. No matter their sexual preference. They are attention-seeking, loud, brash people who annoy me and annoy everyone else.

Woohoohoohoo, I'm so ambiguously camp!

Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged?

Yup

(cookeh)

I am a proud hater of gays and lesbians
I dont care about giving people a " fair go "
Most are stemmed from psychological or physiological weakness either through upbringing or defective genes.. Those medicly sanctioned as being gay because of genes I can accept have no choice and is out of there hands.
I dislike the concept of gay adoption I think once a child gets to highschool its extememly hard for that child.
That is my personal opinion, my outward bullshiat opinion is yeh as long as they dont bother me yadda yadda.

EPIC TROLLING MANOUVRE

[sub]irony...[/sub]