And yet it was still involved. If it gets in the way and is kind of the overall point trying to be made, it defeats your overall purpose.Johnisback said:Snip
Glad me pointing out the bullshit antics in political leaning comments make you laugh for some reason.
Not really. You can outline them and define the aspects of what make them up. Male power fantasies don't really work if it's a sexy guy in a speedo posing at the camera and doing nothing of value.
That's not an argument.
And some people think that being morbidly obese is attractive. Is Honda from Street Fighter a female sex fantasy? This "it's all subjective thing" you keep bringing up is completely ignoring cultural context, the tone of the story, and the characters role in it.
Do they also like the scarred and ugly thing? Because that was part of my point. What about coated in the ashes of their dead family?
To throw that right back in your face, remember when you put up that comic with Giorno Giovanna? He just fell into YOUR line of what is cool. Plenty of men out there wouldn't want to wear a skin tight outfit that shows off their chest. Plenty of people would think it looks stupid
Please point out where I claimed to represent either gender? And you're didn't make an argument, you just said "That's just your opinion" over and over again. You're ignoring context and the way people treat characters. The logical conclusion of that would be claiming that you can't prove Bayonetta is sexy because that's just your opinion of what sexy is. We're allowed to make logical conclusions on what is and isn't treated as sexy based off of the knowledge of the culture that we're in. And in American culture, big breasts, long legs long flowing hair and a tight ass are all considered sexy. Being muscular with tell toned features is also sexy. Tantalizingly showing off body parts is also sexy. Being fat and scarred isn't.
Your argument proves nothing Really it's just a argument that doesn't make a point, it just brings the discussion to a grinding halt.