Poll: Bayonetta Sexist?

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tartparty

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Please discuss for my pleasure.
Sorry I don't know if this has already been discussed but I am fairly new to the message boards although I am a long time fan Ben "Yahtzee" Crosshaw's Zero Punctuation.

Can someone tell me how to edit the poll, and be nice I am new to this. And I am also fairly doped up with prescription meds at the moment which is probably why the poll doesn't make sense
just take off or empowering

The poll question :IS BAYONETTA SEXIST?
 

Bon_Clay

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Your poll options are going by the yes or no spectrum, but the question says is it a or b. Which one do the options say yes or no to?

As for me, I'd say a little of both.
 

Leemaster777

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Yeah, the poll makes no sense. Need to fix that.

Anyways, I'll have to say "empowering", if only because I don't think she's sexist.
 

cgentero

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Let me answer this with another question, is Dante sexist because he is an attractive male whose a bit flirty and doesn't like to wear a shirt?
 

Something Amyss

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KalosCast said:
Whatever option fits for "shallow and fanservicey"
Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with "shallow and fanservicey."

I don't directly buy Bayo as sexist, but I think it's utterly ridiculous to call her empowering at the same time.
 

DustyDrB

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She's no role model, but she certainly isn't sexist. So I voted no.
 

Katana314

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Actually, the "females on female characters" panel at PAX specifically covered Bayonetta, and they honestly didn't mind all the fanservice. She was actually witty, kickass, and well-written, and it was meant to be an action game, so it balanced out well. What they don't like is when a woman is sexy...and only has that going for them.
 

Laser Priest

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It's not sexist. It doesn't define either sex as inferior.

It sexualizes the living hell out of 'em, though.
 

snow

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perhaps OP could give us a line or two as to why they think she may be sexist? I never played the game besides the demo. If she's sexist because she's a character for all the male teens to gawk at, then psh, there are PLENTY of female characters in movies, books, and games for men of ALL ages to gawk at, and the same goes for the vice versa.
 

Evil Tim

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Warty Bliggens said:
Bayonetta is a collection of fetishes with no personality beyond what is commonly considered 'sexy' by heterosexual men. She is the most blatant, shameless sex object in video game history.
Haven't played that many games, have you?
 

trooper6

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I haven't played the game yet, so I can't say.

I have heard conflicting stories. Some have said that it is a sexist representation. Others (including women) have said that Bayonetta is a sort of postmodern dismantling of sexist representations.

So...since I haven't played it, I don't know.
 

TheXRatedDodo

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I don't find it sexist, but that's because sexism, racism, etc only appear when you start thinking about them.

So I don't find it sexist, OP, do YOU? :D
 

mireko

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Not sexist.

If anyone accusing Bayonetta of being sexist had actually played the game or been at all familiar with Hideki Kamiya's previous games, well, they'd see why that accusation doesn't make much sense. He makes campy, absurd and fucking awesome games, and the fanservice in the game serves the former two all three, now that I'm thinking about it. Gun-shoes, after all.

It's just supposed to be a bit of fun. The fact that she does kick ass and that she does look cool [small](rather than just "hot")[/small] doing it makes her more of an empowering character than most.

[sub]And yes, she was designed by Mari Shimazaki. I'm not sure that makes a difference, though.[/sub]
 

Space Spoons

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I don't think it's sexist or empowering. It's just bright, flashy, arcade-style fun, following the design philosophy that has become Hideki Kamiya's trademark.
 

tartparty

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The reason i did this post was that I had asked a couple of friends what they thought and they all leaned towards it being sexist. I disagree to an extent. I recently read an article about modern women taking charge of their sexuality in a way that rivals men.I believe that Bayonetta is somewhat of a representation of this and I think she's a great character. or maybe I am reading into this a bit much and just enjoy for what it is Japanese arcadey madness. And there is nothing hotter than a women kicking ass.

also sorry for the poll mix-up but I was fairly doped up at the time and it was my first post on a message board. I tried to edit but it just stayed the same, is their a separate way to edit the poll?