Poll: British Escapists! You need this!

[SadakoMoose]

Hey, hey, hey...

A show about a group of middle aged men gawking about cars like teenagers?

Leave Top Gear alone. especially since you're advocating pro wrestling, which if anything, is more immature and pandering than Top Gear ever was.

Leave my boys alone.

Prove it. Prove that pro wrestling, based off the clips I've provided, is more immature than some 50 something year old man making GTA jokes while driving around like he just got his license.

No thanks, I'll stick to my TV Drama's, comedy shows and things that aren't SHIT!

Seriously, wrestling is shit, I mean wow!

I can't think of a reason other than it's shit.

People in latex outfits/nappies attacking one another is not good television!

And how do you qualify shit? If you can't think of any other reason besides "I think it's shit", then you should at least explain WHY you think it's shit, and maybe give me some examples. It's not like you can't find examples of terrible wrestling out there. Why not back up what you're saying with some examples?

Sorry but British TV already has enough sport and to be perfectly honest nearly all of it is more intellectually and physically taxing than shitty, shitty pro-wrestling.

Nobody wants your crap non-sport soap opera for over-compensating men.

Over compensating 'men'?

 

[El Luck]

I think my brain just melted from trying to make sense of the OP.

Oh no, I don't get to watch sweaty homoerotic men crotch grabbing on a regular basis.

Instead I am forced to watch such nonsense as Sherlock, Silent Witness, Doctor Who (if you're into that sort of thing), The Office, Downton Abbey, Top Gear, A Question of Sport, QI (fucking QI!), Being Human, Merlin, Extras, Misfits, Skins, Have I Got News For You (Christ, I'm barely past H), Later with Jools Holland, the original and so much better Life on Mars, Mock the Week, Never Mind the Buzzcocks and Would I Lie to You.

That's just the BBC 2 programmes that I watch.

I think I will take my inferior programming over your clearly faked 'professional' wrestling and leave.

Quoted for the truth. Apart from Downton Abby, and Skins. Those two shows irritate me.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Hey, hey, hey...

A show about a group of middle aged men gawking about cars like teenagers?

Leave Top Gear alone. especially since you're advocating pro wrestling, which if anything, is more immature and pandering than Top Gear ever was.

Leave my boys alone.

Prove it. Prove that pro wrestling, based off the clips I've provided, is more immature than some 50 something year old man making GTA jokes while driving around like he just got his license.

No thanks, I'll stick to my TV Drama's, comedy shows and things that aren't SHIT!

Seriously, wrestling is shit, I mean wow!

I can't think of a reason other than it's shit.

People in latex outfits/nappies attacking one another is not good television!

And how do you qualify shit? If you can't think of any other reason besides "I think it's shit", then you should at least explain WHY you think it's shit, and maybe give me some examples. It's not like you can't find examples of terrible wrestling out there. Why not back up what you're saying with some examples?

Sorry but British TV already has enough sport and to be perfectly honest nearly all of it is more intellectually and physically taxing than shitty, shitty pro-wrestling.

Nobody wants your crap non-sport soap opera for over-compensating men.

Over compensating 'men'?

That's the beauty of it.

I don't need to prove anything, since I'm not making the blanket statement that wrestling is better than a lot of stuff that's already on TV.

Where I come from, the person making the accusation must first provide evidence before anything else can begin.

 

[lRookiel]

No thanks, I'll stick to my TV Drama's, comedy shows and things that aren't SHIT!

Seriously, wrestling is shit, I mean wow!

I can't think of a reason other than it's shit.

People in latex outfits/nappies attacking one another is not good television!

And how do you qualify shit? If you can't think of any other reason besides "I think it's shit", then you should at least explain WHY you think it's shit, and maybe give me some examples. It's not like you can't find examples of terrible wrestling out there. Why not back up what you're saying with some examples?

Let me just outline the words that matter here so you can get what I'm saying.

It's television, programmes are made based on what people like. What I say is an OPINION, you can't seem to understand that. To me, wrestling is shit, I don't have to prove anything I say with examples because it is an OPINION. Don't take it to heart and please, take it somewhere else.

 

[SadakoMoose]

Hey, hey, hey...

A show about a group of middle aged men gawking about cars like teenagers?

Leave Top Gear alone. especially since you're advocating pro wrestling, which if anything, is more immature and pandering than Top Gear ever was.

Leave my boys alone.

Prove it. Prove that pro wrestling, based off the clips I've provided, is more immature than some 50 something year old man making GTA jokes while driving around like he just got his license.

No thanks, I'll stick to my TV Drama's, comedy shows and things that aren't SHIT!

Seriously, wrestling is shit, I mean wow!

I can't think of a reason other than it's shit.

People in latex outfits/nappies attacking one another is not good television!

And how do you qualify shit? If you can't think of any other reason besides "I think it's shit", then you should at least explain WHY you think it's shit, and maybe give me some examples. It's not like you can't find examples of terrible wrestling out there. Why not back up what you're saying with some examples?

Sorry but British TV already has enough sport and to be perfectly honest nearly all of it is more intellectually and physically taxing than shitty, shitty pro-wrestling.

Nobody wants your crap non-sport soap opera for over-compensating men.

Over compensating 'men'?

That's the beauty of it.

I don't need to prove anything, since I'm not making the blanket statement that wrestling is better than a lot of stuff that's already on TV.

Where I come from, the person making the accusation must first provide evidence before anything else can begin.

Well, no, you STILL need to provide proof, otherwise you are ALSO just making baseless statements. I'm saying that I think that British made Pro Wrestling, one way or another, would be an interesting and "different" addition to British TV. More specifically, I am saying that I feel it is a shame that such talents that your country has produced in the last decade should go without praise or recognition from their own countrymen.
You said that "pro wrestling was shit"
Yes, this is your opinion, but you still need to back it up with some examples.
REAL examples. Not just platitudes and insults.

 

[SadakoMoose]

No thanks, I'll stick to my TV Drama's, comedy shows and things that aren't SHIT!

Seriously, wrestling is shit, I mean wow!

I can't think of a reason other than it's shit.

People in latex outfits/nappies attacking one another is not good television!

And how do you qualify shit? If you can't think of any other reason besides "I think it's shit", then you should at least explain WHY you think it's shit, and maybe give me some examples. It's not like you can't find examples of terrible wrestling out there. Why not back up what you're saying with some examples?

Let me just outline the words that matter here so you can get what I'm saying.

It's television, programmes are made based on what people like. What I say is an OPINION, you can't seem to understand that. To me, wrestling is shit, I don't have to prove anything I say with examples because it is an OPINION. Don't take it to heart and please, take it somewhere else.

I'm not saying your not entitled to your opinion, I get that.
I'm just saying I'd respect your opinion more if you weren't just saying crap and not backing it up. I can say anything I want and have any opinion I want, but that doesn't mean people should respect it if I'm not providing any reasons for my opinions.
"Celery is gay!" "Pumpkins give you cancer!" "Toasters are for facists!"
Are these opinions? Yes.
But if I don't have a reason to say or think these things, then they're meaningless.
I'm not asking you to CHANGE your mind, I'm just asking you to give some reasons.
Why is giving a reason that a bad thing?

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Hey, hey, hey...

A show about a group of middle aged men gawking about cars like teenagers?

Leave Top Gear alone. especially since you're advocating pro wrestling, which if anything, is more immature and pandering than Top Gear ever was.

Leave my boys alone.

Prove it. Prove that pro wrestling, based off the clips I've provided, is more immature than some 50 something year old man making GTA jokes while driving around like he just got his license.

No thanks, I'll stick to my TV Drama's, comedy shows and things that aren't SHIT!

Seriously, wrestling is shit, I mean wow!

I can't think of a reason other than it's shit.

People in latex outfits/nappies attacking one another is not good television!

And how do you qualify shit? If you can't think of any other reason besides "I think it's shit", then you should at least explain WHY you think it's shit, and maybe give me some examples. It's not like you can't find examples of terrible wrestling out there. Why not back up what you're saying with some examples?

Sorry but British TV already has enough sport and to be perfectly honest nearly all of it is more intellectually and physically taxing than shitty, shitty pro-wrestling.

Nobody wants your crap non-sport soap opera for over-compensating men.

Over compensating 'men'?

That's the beauty of it.

I don't need to prove anything, since I'm not making the blanket statement that wrestling is better than a lot of stuff that's already on TV.

Where I come from, the person making the accusation must first provide evidence before anything else can begin.

Well, no, you STILL need to provide proof, otherwise you are ALSO just making baseless statements. I'm saying that I think that British made Pro Wrestling, one way or another, would be an interesting and "different" addition to British TV. More specifically, I am saying that I feel it is a shame that such talents that your country has produced in the last decade should go without praise or recognition from their own countrymen.
You said that "pro wrestling was shit"
Yes, this is your opinion, but you still need to back it up with some examples.
REAL examples. Not just platitudes and insults.

Yeah, look again, at no point did I say that 'pro wrestling was shit'. Nice try though.

I feel it is a shame that such talents that your country has produced in the last decade should go without praise or recognition from their own countrymen.

Talent is what you call it? It's not even real, it's acting. Sure, it's acting that requires a certain level of technique, but it's hardly a sport.

 

[SadakoMoose]

Hey, hey, hey...

A show about a group of middle aged men gawking about cars like teenagers?

Leave Top Gear alone. especially since you're advocating pro wrestling, which if anything, is more immature and pandering than Top Gear ever was.

Leave my boys alone.

Prove it. Prove that pro wrestling, based off the clips I've provided, is more immature than some 50 something year old man making GTA jokes while driving around like he just got his license.

No thanks, I'll stick to my TV Drama's, comedy shows and things that aren't SHIT!

Seriously, wrestling is shit, I mean wow!

I can't think of a reason other than it's shit.

People in latex outfits/nappies attacking one another is not good television!

And how do you qualify shit? If you can't think of any other reason besides "I think it's shit", then you should at least explain WHY you think it's shit, and maybe give me some examples. It's not like you can't find examples of terrible wrestling out there. Why not back up what you're saying with some examples?

Sorry but British TV already has enough sport and to be perfectly honest nearly all of it is more intellectually and physically taxing than shitty, shitty pro-wrestling.

Nobody wants your crap non-sport soap opera for over-compensating men.

Over compensating 'men'?

That's the beauty of it.

I don't need to prove anything, since I'm not making the blanket statement that wrestling is better than a lot of stuff that's already on TV.

Where I come from, the person making the accusation must first provide evidence before anything else can begin.

Well, no, you STILL need to provide proof, otherwise you are ALSO just making baseless statements. I'm saying that I think that British made Pro Wrestling, one way or another, would be an interesting and "different" addition to British TV. More specifically, I am saying that I feel it is a shame that such talents that your country has produced in the last decade should go without praise or recognition from their own countrymen.
You said that "pro wrestling was shit"
Yes, this is your opinion, but you still need to back it up with some examples.
REAL examples. Not just platitudes and insults.

Yeah, look again, at no point did I say that 'pro wrestling was shit'. Nice try though.

I feel it is a shame that such talents that your country has produced in the last decade should go without praise or recognition from their own countrymen.

Talent is what you call it? It's not even real, it's acting. Sure, it's acting that requires a certain level of technique, but it's hardly a sport.

Oh, wait, I got you mixed up with iRookiel's post.
Sorry about that.
Still:
Yes, it's real. It's not competitive necessarily, but it is REAL. It's not animated, yea?
No CGI. No stunt doubles or fancy editing. These matches actually happened. They just weren't competitive. If you can honestly look at those videos I've posted up there and tell me that isn't SOME kind of talent other than acting, then what's up?

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Hey, hey, hey...

A show about a group of middle aged men gawking about cars like teenagers?

Leave Top Gear alone. especially since you're advocating pro wrestling, which if anything, is more immature and pandering than Top Gear ever was.

Leave my boys alone.

Prove it. Prove that pro wrestling, based off the clips I've provided, is more immature than some 50 something year old man making GTA jokes while driving around like he just got his license.

No thanks, I'll stick to my TV Drama's, comedy shows and things that aren't SHIT!

Seriously, wrestling is shit, I mean wow!

I can't think of a reason other than it's shit.

People in latex outfits/nappies attacking one another is not good television!

And how do you qualify shit? If you can't think of any other reason besides "I think it's shit", then you should at least explain WHY you think it's shit, and maybe give me some examples. It's not like you can't find examples of terrible wrestling out there. Why not back up what you're saying with some examples?

Sorry but British TV already has enough sport and to be perfectly honest nearly all of it is more intellectually and physically taxing than shitty, shitty pro-wrestling.

Nobody wants your crap non-sport soap opera for over-compensating men.

Over compensating 'men'?

That's the beauty of it.

I don't need to prove anything, since I'm not making the blanket statement that wrestling is better than a lot of stuff that's already on TV.

Where I come from, the person making the accusation must first provide evidence before anything else can begin.

Well, no, you STILL need to provide proof, otherwise you are ALSO just making baseless statements. I'm saying that I think that British made Pro Wrestling, one way or another, would be an interesting and "different" addition to British TV. More specifically, I am saying that I feel it is a shame that such talents that your country has produced in the last decade should go without praise or recognition from their own countrymen.
You said that "pro wrestling was shit"
Yes, this is your opinion, but you still need to back it up with some examples.
REAL examples. Not just platitudes and insults.

Yeah, look again, at no point did I say that 'pro wrestling was shit'. Nice try though.

I feel it is a shame that such talents that your country has produced in the last decade should go without praise or recognition from their own countrymen.

Talent is what you call it? It's not even real, it's acting. Sure, it's acting that requires a certain level of technique, but it's hardly a sport.

Oh, wait, I got you mixed up with iRookiel's post.
Sorry about that.
Still:
Yes, it's real. It's not competitive necessarily, but it is REAL. It's not animated, yea?
No CGI. No stunt doubles or fancy editing. These matches actually happened. They just weren't competitive. If you can honestly look at those videos I've posted up there and tell me that isn't SOME kind of talent other than acting, then what's up?

It's the same level of acting that a stunt man employs, sure I can admire it from a technical perspective, i.e., being able to do dangerous shit without breaking their own necks etc, but it's not something I would sit down and watch, and I certainly wouldn't laud them as talent deserving of recognition.

 

[Andaxay]

Not really my cup of tea, to be honest. I avidly avoid anything shit like Britain's Got Talent and Oh No, Another Wannabe "Celebrity" Thrown Into A Jungle/Shipwreck/Tank Of Sharks, anything with Simon Cowell attached to it and Channel 4 anyway. We do have decent comedy and the occasional gritty drama, that's enough for me. I just stick Dave on then all is well in TV land. Plus I LIKE that show where middle-aged men gawk at cars like teenagers. It's entertaining (although the last couple of series have felt like they're trying a bit hard).

 

[teqrevisited]

Some things don't come back because the public don't care about them. Unfortunately, as hard as it is to comprehend, those generic, faux-drama talent shows are popular.

Since Top Gear was mentioned, I would personally prefer to watch that over any kind of wrestling.

 

[verdant monkai]

British TV gives us some of the best comedy in the world Black adder, Monty Python, The fast show, Mighty Boosh, Mock the week, have I got news for you etc. Also the old DR. Who was awesome and the new one can sometimes be ok. We have a lot of great TV shows admittedly most of it is utter shit. But we have got some good stuff on if you know what to watch.
And you think we need two sweaty berks grappling each other, in what looks like greasy gay sex. Nothing against gayness but I don't want to be entertained by it.
You clearly have no idea what British humour is like. *adjusts monocle and perambulates away on a penny farthing bicycle*

 

[Cavan]

-huge snip-

Only thing I can say is... Well, no I cannot say anything, so... Take it away Bender!

I was going to make a post about how English television is arguably in a better state than American television and maybe some other places, but then I saw this post and I went "hmm..yeah that's more or less what I was gonna say"

 

[SadakoMoose]

Some things don't come back because the public don't care about them. Unfortunately, as hard as it is to comprehend, those generic, faux-drama talent shows are popular.

Since Top Gear was mentioned, I would personally prefer to watch that than any kind of wrestling.

Are you sure I can't sell you on some Michinoku Pro?
It's the best stuff to come out of Northern Japan : D

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

An American giving other nationalities shit for the prevalence of reality TV? My sides.

I despise talent shows as much as the next mentally balanced person, but considering that all the other, awesome stuff there is on TV, and that (from what I've heard) British TV has a very good reputation around the world, I don't think we're doing too badly thanks; and even if we were, I doubt that pro-wrestling, the sort of thing that 95% of people stop thinking is cool at around the age of 12, would be quite the way to go.

 

[SadakoMoose]

An American giving other nationalities shit for the prevalence of reality TV? My sides.

I despise talent shows as much as the next mentally balanced person, but considering that all the other, awesome stuff there is on TV, and that (from what I've heard) British TV has a very good reputation around the world, I don't think we're doing too badly thanks; and even if we were, I doubt that pro-wrestling, the sort of thing that 95% of people stop thinking is cool at around the age of 12, would be quite the way to go.

I dunno, I'd say a good majority of wrestling fans these days are above the age of 12.
Even then, you don't know crap until you've seen Hollyoaks...
or X factor...

 

[Cavan]

I really don't understand why you felt the need to mention British Escapists in your title over simply stating that you like wrestling and want to get other people involved in it.

'British Escapists I have something your pansy television does not have' = stupid
'Hey guys I really like wrestling and these are the reasons I like it and here are the places you can find it' = a conversation.

 

[king_katchit]

As a Brit over the age of 12 that still loves pro-wrestling, I'm quite happy watching it without requiring the validation of the masses. Saying that, I don't really watch all that much TV these days anyway.

On the subject of FWA, I used to watch it a fair bit when the wrestling channel was still around. I also did go to a show they did in Coventry about 8 years ago. I got to meet Mick Foley, who is a legend. Terry Funk also took the hardest bump I have ever seen onto bare concrete from the second tier.

Which is impressive for a man the age of 137.

 

[SadakoMoose]

As a Brit over the age of 12 that still loves pro-wrestling, I'm quite happy watching it without requiring the validation of the masses. Saying that, I don't really watch all that much TV these days anyway.

On the subject of FWA, I used to watch it a fair bit when the wrestling channel was still around. I also did go to a show they did in Coventry about 8 years ago. I got to meet Mick Foley, who is a legend. Terry Funk also took the hardest bump I have ever seen onto bare concrete from the second tier.

Which is impressive for a man the age of 137.

I know right?
Although, I think I've seen worse:

 

[Loop Stricken]

There's very little I actually watch on telly nowadays. it boils down to Doctor Who, Top Gear, Torchwood whenever they make a new series aaaaand I think that's it outside of the occasional one-shot drama thing the BBC does.

Ordinarily I'd mention comedy series like HIGNFY and Never Mind the Buzzcocks, but recently I've just forgotten they're on entirely.