Poll: Chance or Destiny?

[rokkolpo]

just think like this...



people are uncalculable(i know it,s wrong spelled but it,s late here and i,m tired).
whenever people began on philosophy these things came up first.

also i can,t imagine it,s part of my destiny is talking about destiny on escapist.
what drunk-head would write destiny.

Maybe that IS your destiny, but if it is that's pretty sad. JK.

But as I said, not EVERYTHING has to be predetermined but maybe only a few (and I really mean like 1 or 2) events in our life were meant to happen.

but that also means chances are you never get to the point of destiny and simply miss it, like a train.

Who's to say that those 1 or 2 destined events can't find you know matter where you are in life?

yeah. i can,t answer to that....cuz i just don,t know. but i still think ''destiny'' is a thing like ''rules'' to be twisted.

 

[Xvito]

There is no such thing as destiny...

You state that like it's a fact but the truth is no one knows for sure.

I have seen chance. I have seen choice. I have not seen destiny.

 

[Julianking93]

I hate to be cynical, but I really think its all chance and that there is no reason to anything...I wish think differently.

 

[EchetusXe]

Well its all destiny technically. But for all intents and purposes it is chance seen as there is now way of predicting destiny. Though we can make educated guesses... drunk driving may end you up in prison or in hospital etc

 

[THEMILKMAN]

I believe there's no such thing as destiny. I believe in free will. Things don't happen because they're magically "meant to", they happen because random circumstances lead to the creation of opportunies, which people then either decide to take or not take.

Yes I think effort is a big part of it as well but think about it. Someone born into a life of ease and luxury will most likely have to put a lot less effort forward to acheieve what they want. While some other may be born into a situation where they'll really have to work their asses off with effort to achieve what they want and sometimes they STILL may not achieve what they want. Life isn't fair.
Your theory says, to me, that everyone is born with equal opprotunities and their amount of effort determines where they go in life. But we all know that isn't always true.
So what determines what situation one is born into and therefore, how much effort they'll need to put forward to get what they want in life?

 

[Woodsey]

100 % chance.

People only believe in destiny because they'd like to think they've got a purpose, that's all.

 

[THEMILKMAN]

I appear to be on a one-sided battle. LOL.

It's cool though, I got Auron with me!

 

[Incredible Bullshitting Man]

"Maybe there is something/-one controlling our puny lives, maybe there isn´t. Whatever it is, I like to call it "chance". It´s the mixture of actions by deterministic nature and chaotic man. Their actions (circumstances, happenings...) weave a pattern so fine and complex, I can never fully understand its whole scale, and thus I can never fully predict it. So I call it "chance": Thing neither order nor chaos, but both. It is not created by any outside force, but it has created itself."

If I were a little more poetic (and got myself high), I would say this.

 

[THEMILKMAN]

"Maybe there is something/-one controlling our puny lives, maybe there isn´t. Whatever it is, I like to call it "chance". It´s the mixture of actions by deterministic nature and chaotic man. Their actions (circumstances, happenings...) weave a pattern so fine and complex, I can never fully understand its whole scale, and thus I can never fully predict it. So I call it "chance": Thing neither order nor chaos, but both. It is not created by any outside force, but it has created itself."

If I were a little more poetic (and got myself high), I would say this.

Your name is perfectly suited for that LOL.

 

[Kiefer13]

I believe there's no such thing as destiny. I believe in free will. Things don't happen because they're magically "meant to", they happen because random circumstances lead to the creation of opportunies, which people then either decide to take or not take.

Yes I think effort is a big part of it as well but think about it. Someone born into a life of ease and luxury will most likely have to put a lot less effort forward to acheieve what they want. While some other may be born into a situation where they'll really have to work their asses off with effort to achieve what they want and sometimes they STILL may not achieve what they want. Life isn't fair.
Your theory says, to me, that everyone is born with equal opprotunities and their amount of effort determines where they go in life. But we all know that isn't always true.
So what determines what situation one is born into and therefore, how much effort they'll need to put forward to get what they want in life?

I'm not saying that everyone is born with equal opportunities, because that's simply not true, as much as it should be. It's true that life isn't fair, but surely that's another point against destiny, and not for it? After all, if there's no universal cosmic "justice" to speak of, deciding what is "meant" to happen, then of course bad things are going to happen to good people and vice versa.

And what determines what situation one is born into? Surely the decisions and choices of their parents? Which again are not predefined.

 

[Incredible Bullshitting Man]

"Maybe there is something/-one controlling our puny lives, maybe there isn´t. Whatever it is, I like to call it "chance". It´s the mixture of actions by deterministic nature and chaotic man. Their actions (circumstances, happenings...) weave a pattern so fine and complex, I can never fully understand its whole scale, and thus I can never fully predict it. So I call it "chance": Thing neither order nor chaos, but both. It is not created by any outside force, but it has created itself."

If I were a little more poetic (and got myself high), I would say this.

Your name is perfectly suited for that LOL.

And that is not by chance.

 

[THEMILKMAN]

I believe there's no such thing as destiny. I believe in free will. Things don't happen because they're magically "meant to", they happen because random circumstances lead to the creation of opportunities, which people then either decide to take or not take.

Sorry but I actually hit "QUOTE" on the wrong person. I meant to send it to LaBambaMan. That could be why my argument doesn't make much sense to your first statement LOL.

God damn, I'm really on a one-sided battle here aren't I? Where are these people who said it's ALL destiny? I said it's only 1% geez.

 

[Kiefer13]

I believe there's no such thing as destiny. I believe in free will. Things don't happen because they're magically "meant to", they happen because random circumstances lead to the creation of opportunities, which people then either decide to take or not take.

Sorry but I actually hit "QUOTE" on the wrong person. I meant to send it to LaBambaMan. That could be why my argument doesn't make much sense to your first statement LOL.

God damn, I'm really on a one-sided battle here aren't I? Where are these people who said it's ALL destiny? I said it's only 1% geez.

Ah, that makes sense. I was wondering a little. Thank you for clarifying.

 

[Monocle Man]

I believe in "Amusingly coincidental coincidence", you could also see it as "A deity has chosen me as its entertainment."

Other humans are all just side-rolls in a majestic play around me, going to amusement parks with me will cause inhumanely large lines to appear, malfunctioning machines and other annoyances.
You are all just mindless bodies, typing messages send by that deity to drive me crazy!

I suppose that counts as Chance with a little Destiny.

 

[GundamSentinel]

I've always been a fan of the "relativity and quantummechanics explain everything" stand, so I guess I'll go with destiny. Everything predetermined from the moment the Big Bang said hi and probably before that.

 

[Lynx]

Collisions of incidents, followed by more collisions. However, I don't know if I believe in chance or destiny. Predestined chance, perhaps.

 

[LockHeart]

I said 50/50, but not because I believe in destiny or fate, but because I'd prefer to ascribe the way my life turns out to a mixture of chance and choice - I'd go for 100% choice, but chance can always limit the choices available to a person.

 

[THEMILKMAN]

There is no such thing as destiny...

You state that like it's a fact but the truth is no one knows for sure.

I have seen chance. I have seen choice. I have not seen destiny.

I also find it hard to believe in things I haven't seen with my own eyes. But how do you know for sure that those acts of chance and choice you saw weren't meant to happen? They most likley were an act of chance or free choice but you can't dissprove the possibility of fate. Much like no one can dissprove any religion or belief. All I'm saying is to keep an open mind to all possibilities unless they can be dissproven.

 

[Xvito]

There is no such thing as destiny...

You state that like it's a fact but the truth is no one knows for sure.

I have seen chance. I have seen choice. I have not seen destiny.

I also find it hard to believe in things I haven't seen with my own eyes. But how do you know for sure that those acts of chance and choice you saw weren't meant to happen? They most likley were an act of chance or free choice but you can't dissprove the possibility of fate. Much like no one can dissprove any religion or belief. All I'm saying is to keep an open mind to all possibilities unless they can be dissproven.

I keep my mind as open as possible... But only to the extent of my sanity.

If one were to live life believing that God might exist, then it would be foolish indeed not to worship him, it would even be the only sane move to do so. So therefor I don't believe in things which cannot be observed, it just becomes too much. But sure, you can live your life the way you want to...

 

[RanD00M]

Well as a believer in destiny i do say it's a 50/50 thing.