what do you mean as a baby you don't even feel it!? Babies don't have a lack of feeling you know, just because your forgot about it doesn't me it never happened. My nephew is crying and screaming because of it, i'm sure he can't feel a thing at all.Lexodus said:
Poll: Circumcision - What is your opinion?
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Sure, because different cultures with ideas different to yours are ALWAYS wrong.
And female circumcision is very different, on the basis that it's often cruelly done, and has very real and very serious health ramifications for the rest of the child's life. Whereas male circumcision is done with anesthetic, with no health ramifications, and often is viewed as a culturally important act. So don't even compare them, you clearly know nothing about either beyond opinion and what you've read on Wikipedia.
And female circumcision is very different, on the basis that it's often cruelly done, and has very real and very serious health ramifications for the rest of the child's life. Whereas male circumcision is done with anesthetic, with no health ramifications, and often is viewed as a culturally important act. So don't even compare them, you clearly know nothing about either beyond opinion and what you've read on Wikipedia.
How I understand it this can also be solved by just stretching the foreskin every so often, or I believe they sell creams to help the process along as well.Lexodus said:Dude, I think you SHOULD get circumcised. Your foreskin sounds to be too tight, which means problems.stueymon said:I live in the UK where circumcision is not as massively prevalent in the states, I personally am not circumcised, I dont know about my friends, it's not really a discussion that comes up! heh!
Why is it so common in the states? It seems abnormal to americans to not be circumcised. honestly I think it should be an adults choice, but that said, I've never thought about losing any more of what little I have
although one thing i've been curious about and never really had the chance to ask, are you supposed to be able to pull it down when erect? I know I cant :S
Besides, you won't lose any length, just a flap of skin over what you already have.
Of course you feel it as a baby, why wouldn't you, nerves are completely developed at that point. and its only common sense it would less pleasurable for the man, you are after all loosing a good deal of the nerves. For the women, no I can't vouch personally but the rolled back foreskin allegedly creates a ridged area which helps the women.Lexodus said:
Circumcising newborns should be illegal. It's pointless mutilation unless there is an immediate medical concern. I've been circumcised as a baby for cosmetic and "Traditional" reasons. I can't miss my foreskin, but it's unfair that I was never given a choice in the matter. And I can't get it back (unless. . . stem cells?)
Oh, and penile cancer is not only rare, it's extremely easy to detect early for obvious reasons.
Oh, and penile cancer is not only rare, it's extremely easy to detect early for obvious reasons.
Personal choice, the child should decide not the parent, unless like most others have said for medical reasons, however other people say it should be done because of Religious reasons, that's bullshit, you shouldn't be deciding your child's religion, again that is something they must decide. A friend of mine has REEEALLLLYYY religious parents, but he is impartial, he goes to church occasionally but under his own free will, this is how religion should be shown to kids. Sorry to get Off Topic.
I would have it done, just for comfort and all that, but the thought of doing it NOW , scares the fuck out of me, I mean given the advantages it brings, (didn't know about the loss of pleasure, although is that entirely true? How would that come about?) surely it should just be an opt out thing, it's an entirely useless bit of flesh, that just gets in the way.
theres actually natural and surgical foreskin restorationGrand_Arcana said:
Surgical involves skin grafting
Natural involves foreskin recreation using methods such as tugging and stretching
I have never gotten a complaint about me being uncircumcised. Even if I did, I don't give a damn. I'm not going to cut off a part of my penis just because of a one night stand, no matter how hot she is. To be honest, if she did care, then ask her how would she feel about getting circumcised. And it's not "harder to clean". You just clean it like normal. I don't know where people are getting the infection crap from, but it's not true. Unless you don't clean the tip at all... then you will get infections, most definitely.
Thats what I was just thinking, looking at this thread I can't find a single post that envies the other side, we all have ours the way it is and don't want to think about how it would be the other way. No one who has one that has been circumcised cares so I don't see why the opposition is yelling out "its wrong, think of the victims", because really its starting to seem like there aren't any victims. The fact that every one is defending the one they have is making me conclude thats is just not that big of a deal ether way.Gibboniser said:
Edit: I just saw both kinds arguing for the other side on this page, but still.
Quick question, just how exactly do you work out a percentage of pleasure lost? That's far too subjective a concept to be measurable.
My father, who claims to have been circumcised later in life(obviously I wasn't there so I wouldn't know for sure), says masturbating isn't as good anymore, but sex was no different. It all seems like circumstantial(lulz) evidence. There's so much false and exaggerated information about sex as it is, what really makes this any more reliable?
My father, who claims to have been circumcised later in life(obviously I wasn't there so I wouldn't know for sure), says masturbating isn't as good anymore, but sex was no different. It all seems like circumstantial(lulz) evidence. There's so much false and exaggerated information about sex as it is, what really makes this any more reliable?
Speaking as one of the few uncircumcised people I actually know, I must say I am damn happy my parents refused to let the doctor have at it. I take offense at people who say it looks gross, because in my mind, a fatty scar is wayyy grosser than a little extra skin. It also is complete bull saying it's harder to keep clean. I have never had difficulty keeping it ship shape. And I have less of a need for lube, as the skin does all the work.
The fact of the matter is there is very little medical reason to having a baby circumcised unless there is a condition requiring it. The off-chance a condition will develop later is not reason enough to mess with people's junk. We don't remove everyone's appendix at birth because they MIGHT get appendicitis. If it comes down to a matter of choice, the baby should have the final word. And that means letting them grow up before doing it.
The fact of the matter is there is very little medical reason to having a baby circumcised unless there is a condition requiring it. The off-chance a condition will develop later is not reason enough to mess with people's junk. We don't remove everyone's appendix at birth because they MIGHT get appendicitis. If it comes down to a matter of choice, the baby should have the final word. And that means letting them grow up before doing it.
I'm kinda amused by people saying that male circumcision is genital mutilation.
Chopping the penis off or sticking needles into the testicles is genital mutilation. I don't see removal the foreskin as mutilation.
I don't feel like less of a man or was wronged by my parents who made a decision for me when I was probably less than a day old.
Chopping the penis off or sticking needles into the testicles is genital mutilation. I don't see removal the foreskin as mutilation.
I don't feel like less of a man or was wronged by my parents who made a decision for me when I was probably less than a day old.
I'll keep my foreskin, thank you very much. And considering that this is Europe I'm living in, almost everyone else does as well. A circumcised penis is a weird thing here, in this uncouth land of foreskins, and will either mean you're a jew or had some physical problems with your package. And that's about it.
And other than the fact I got really confused about the hand lotion jokes (a tidbit: an uncircumcised person doesn't need any fancy lubrication to spank the monkey) in TV before I learned of circumsion, I'm not seeing any real benefit to the practice. Sure, it might help you keep cleaner, but unless you're some sort of an unwashed trodgolyte or armless, I can assure you it's not exactly hard to just wash the damn thing. And many studies do indicate that a circumcised penis is less sensitive, even if only a bit.
And on that note, I think it should be illegal to have a baby circumcised before he can even voice their opinion (in any intelligible matter, anyway, I've seen videos and they're not exactly unvocal about it when the snippy-snip happens). It's essentially a permanent alterification of one's very intimate bodypart. Sure, there are some somewhat effective ways to get your foreskin back (I hear stretching excercises are actually pretty good with the correct regiment), but it's still not quick or easy. I really, really think a person should have the right to decide whether or not he wants his floppy bits snipped. I mean, it's illegal to get your baby nose piercings, at least here it is, and those are much less permanent. Yeah, it's not a good analogy, but there you go.
I really don't care what a person chooses for himself, but even a baby has human rights, and I'm quite sure "get your dick-skin pruned to the tune of some archaic tradition without you getting a say in the matter" is not how those rights work.
Just wait a couple of years (or more, I'm quite sure his foreskin will still be there, and if it's not, your problem's solved anyway) and then ask him about the matter. Chances are he'll think he wants it, chances are he doesn't. I can assure you he's not going to grow into some sort of an abomination with his horrible flab of skin in the meanwhile.
And other than the fact I got really confused about the hand lotion jokes (a tidbit: an uncircumcised person doesn't need any fancy lubrication to spank the monkey) in TV before I learned of circumsion, I'm not seeing any real benefit to the practice. Sure, it might help you keep cleaner, but unless you're some sort of an unwashed trodgolyte or armless, I can assure you it's not exactly hard to just wash the damn thing. And many studies do indicate that a circumcised penis is less sensitive, even if only a bit.
And on that note, I think it should be illegal to have a baby circumcised before he can even voice their opinion (in any intelligible matter, anyway, I've seen videos and they're not exactly unvocal about it when the snippy-snip happens). It's essentially a permanent alterification of one's very intimate bodypart. Sure, there are some somewhat effective ways to get your foreskin back (I hear stretching excercises are actually pretty good with the correct regiment), but it's still not quick or easy. I really, really think a person should have the right to decide whether or not he wants his floppy bits snipped. I mean, it's illegal to get your baby nose piercings, at least here it is, and those are much less permanent. Yeah, it's not a good analogy, but there you go.
I really don't care what a person chooses for himself, but even a baby has human rights, and I'm quite sure "get your dick-skin pruned to the tune of some archaic tradition without you getting a say in the matter" is not how those rights work.
Just wait a couple of years (or more, I'm quite sure his foreskin will still be there, and if it's not, your problem's solved anyway) and then ask him about the matter. Chances are he'll think he wants it, chances are he doesn't. I can assure you he's not going to grow into some sort of an abomination with his horrible flab of skin in the meanwhile.
I just edited it, I didn't see any until page six. Grand Arcana is the same way and elvor0 thinks the opposite way. My earlier post said that doctors tend to recommend uncircumcised though and that does hold a lot of merit, as does cases like yours when its done without medical reasoning and causes medical complications.Swollen Goat said:
The length bit was a jokeLexodus said:Dude, I think you SHOULD get circumcised. Your foreskin sounds to be either non-retractable, which some are, or too tight, which could mean problems.stueymon said:I live in the UK where circumcision is not as massively prevalent in the states, I personally am not circumcised, I dont know about my friends, it's not really a discussion that comes up! heh!
Why is it so common in the states? It seems abnormal to americans to not be circumcised. honestly I think it should be an adults choice, but that said, I've never thought about losing any more of what little I have
although one thing i've been curious about and never really had the chance to ask, are you supposed to be able to pull it down when erect? I know I cant :S
Besides, you won't lose any length, just a flap of skin over what you already have.
not hilarious but I hoped at least smile inducing! It retracts when soft, not erect it wont go back unless *really* forced which is a bit uncomfortable, but it's never affected my sex life (at least i've never had too many complaints, other "where is it?" "is that it?!" and "put it away!"