Poll: Dark Lords
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Yes, I saw that... but I also saw that you folded under Vader nerdrage! XDZeroMachine said:I already beat both of you to itEvil Jak said:
And again, Revan shouldn't count, as he redeemed himself and ended up becoming one of the greatest Jedi heroes of the Old Republic.
And he was the greatest Sith Lord and greatest Jedi, its common knowledge that the most powerful force-users preceeded the film time-line and Revan has acheived the most out of all of the big hitters... redemption doesnt count as Revan never left neutrality... he was reluctant to make a "Malak-sized" armada because of its dark side heritage.
So, err... yeah.
Palpatine. Why? He tricked his enemies and led the galaxy to the direction he wanted it to go. Also, he could easily defeat the others on the list.
Other. Anikan sky-walker before Darth Vader. If he hadn't become a robot...then i think he would of not been redeemed in the end. Plus without being a robot he would of kicked a lot more ass (and by robot i mean that DV had a lot of robot parts)
Palpatine. Best success ratio besides Big Brother (who I don't believe to be a Dark Lord) Palpatine is not just betraying the Republic and Jedi- he's technically betraying the Sith as well for his own benefit.
If you will indulge a bit of expanded universe geekery, the Sith Code encourages agressive domination by those strongest in the Force. But instead, he delegates the decisions to the men most loyal to him even if they're physically pathetic, brainless and/or don't even believe in the Force. Pure, undiluted egocentricism. He violates the Rule of Two as well, never training any real successor because he wanted to rule for as long as possible (and given that he had multiple clone bodies made that could be forever!).
If you will indulge a bit of expanded universe geekery, the Sith Code encourages agressive domination by those strongest in the Force. But instead, he delegates the decisions to the men most loyal to him even if they're physically pathetic, brainless and/or don't even believe in the Force. Pure, undiluted egocentricism. He violates the Rule of Two as well, never training any real successor because he wanted to rule for as long as possible (and given that he had multiple clone bodies made that could be forever!).
Vader was in the first three movies.seydaman said:
Revan was created later for the KotOR game.
I'm not sure gods count, but if so I agree.Aunel said:
(Warning: Fanboyish speech approaching.)Evil Jak said:Yes, I saw that... but I also saw that you folded under Vader nerdrage! XDZeroMachine said:I already beat both of you to itEvil Jak said:
And again, Revan shouldn't count, as he redeemed himself and ended up becoming one of the greatest Jedi heroes of the Old Republic.
And he was the greatest Sith Lord and greatest Jedi, its common knowledge that the most powerful force-users preceeded the film time-line and Revan has acheived the most out of all of the big hitters... redemption doesnt count as Revan never left neutrality... he was reluctant to make a "Malak-sized" armada because of its dark side heritage.
So, err... yeah.
Although Revan was close to the greatest Sith Lord during his dark time, he wasn't the greatest. Two greater ones come to mind- Darth Bane, the Sith'ari, and the previously mentioned Darth Sidious. Darth Bane created the Rule of Two, the success of which culminated with the true greatest Sith Lord, Darth Sidious. Sidious's force power was never really explored in the movies other than his powers of manipulation. Beyond that, he was a master of Force Lighting and he could actually use Force Storm, which can wipe out an entire fleet. But his Force skill isn't why he was the greatest... he was the greatest because he was the only Sith to ever have complete dominion over the Galaxy and wipe out the Jedi, save for less than a handful. Although when it came to combat he may have lost to Revan, he was the most successful out of all of them.
So, this is how I look at it:
1. Sidious
2. Bane
3. Revan
... Good GOD, I've become such a Star Wars fanboy within just the past few weeks =X blame cball11.
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The problem is that he (she?) is talking canon-wise and you're talking movie-wise. Although I don't think Revan is a Vader wannabe, I'm on your side with this. Vader came first. Although some of the other things that came from Star Wars are more enjoyable, the source material has to be respected as... well... the source. It all started there.Meado said:
Yeah...Vader came almost 30 years before Revan....Yes Vader was created before Revan. Now stop saying stupid stuff.seydaman said:
I think most of the Mythos doesn't aren't evil. They just think of us humans as bad weeds in their backgrounds so they must be exterminated.sallene said:
Then again....They want to kill all of us, and only the ones who sell their souls to them will be spared from Cthulhu awakening...