Yeah i agree. The man shouldn't just be expected to pay. It's a silly tradition back when women didn't have jobs.Estocavio said:Thats a very reasonable contradiction; My explanation is simply that its a two sided coin - Either the man or the woman has to pay for it, and it seems to be obligatory that the man does it as a way to prove something to the woman. But in doing so, he is serving her interests to great extent but his own very little, and since dates rarely get further than a few dinners or some othersuch, its wasteful on his part.Kagim said:What if her reason for not wanting to pay for everything the first five dates is because she doesn't want to be used herself?Estocavio said:My dating method is rather unique - She has to buy everything. If she doesnt, she isnt willing to even try to do anything, so i dont bother with her. If she does, its a show of initiative at least. I dont provide anything monetarily until after at least the fifth time.Kagim said:That's not dating. That's trying to score. I consider them different things.Tootmania said:I've never understood the whole "dating" thing. That is, I've never understood why I should shell out a ton of my hard-earned cash to provide several meals for some spoiled/pampered female just for a "chance" of getting to dive into her nether regions.
A date is essentially just going out spending one on one time with someone you have a romantic interest in. If you just want to fuck then that's all your going to be in a date. A meal ticket. If you find a girl you actually enjoy spending time with a) your date can take place in your home and your costs will be five bucks for popcorn and a rental b) Sex will be the furthest thing from your mind.
I know I know. I sound crazy right? One day you might understand though.
Its rather efficient actually.
It renders the female unable to exploit you in any level.
Incidentally i carry a constantly running voice recorder at all times.
Not trying To be a dick, serious question. I know guys who don't pay for anything to exploit the girl and leave once she is no longer willing to shell out. You could screw yourself out of a good relationship in your attempt to avoid being used because she thinks your using her.
Incidentally this has only worked four times, and its perfectly reasonable for the other person to decline, but the way i see it is that besides tradition, theres no reason it has to be the male who does the spending.
And i think the woman should have to prove she isnt just leeching off you.
Tootmania said:That is, I've never understood why I should shell out a ton of my hard-earned cash to provide several meals for some spoiled/pampered female just for a "chance" of getting to dive into her nether regions.
And before anyone tries to bring it up - NO! I have never been on a "real" or "formal" date, I have never paid for some female acquaintances meal ticket, and I've never had a girlfriend on account of pretty much all the women I come across are either A) pampered beyond repair B) in possession of a "great personality" but horribly overweight or C) is already in possesion of a child or to old to even really consider (A woman who is almost old enough to be my mom does not interest me. Sorry mom.)
Yeah, what they said.^Kagim said:Yeah i agree. The man shouldn't just be expected to pay. It's a silly tradition back when women didn't have jobs.
When me and the girl who would later be my wife started dating we solved it simply, we flipped a coin, loser paid and we took turns after that. To make sure either of us were not being cheap the who paid last time choose. So when i paid she choose and when she paid i choose.
It shows that you've never been on a date before. I've been on several dates with many, many women, of varying degress of age, background and attractiveness, and not once has the woman expected that I pay for the meal.Tootmania said:I've never understood the whole "dating" thing. That is, I've never understood why I should shell out a ton of my hard-earned cash to provide several meals for some spoiled/pampered female just for a "chance" of getting to dive into her nether regions.
Not when I can just spend a little on the occasional "fling" with a more "open" woman (i.e. prostitutes). At least the prostitute or the one-night stand or whatever is more up front and honest about it.
I was just curious as to ya'lls take on the whole dating thing?
I haven't dated for a while now but my last relationship was an engagement. .... what the hell is your issue with girls being over weight? If they have a good personality that should be what matters. Dating isn't about sex at all. It's about being committed to someone and getting to know someone better. I hated it when my ex paid for everything. I have my own money thank you and I can spent it. You're not going to find anyone if all you look at is the outside.Tootmania said:I've never understood the whole "dating" thing. That is, I've never understood why I should shell out a ton of my hard-earned cash to provide several meals for some spoiled/pampered female just for a "chance" of getting to dive into her nether regions.
Not when I can just spend a little on the occasional "fling" with a more "open" woman (i.e. prostitutes). At least the prostitute or the one-night stand or whatever is more up front and honest about it.
I was just curious as to ya'lls take on the whole dating thing?
And before anyone tries to bring it up - NO! I have never been on a "real" or "formal" date, I have never paid for some female acquaintances meal ticket, and I've never had a girlfriend on account of pretty much all the women I come across are either A) pampered beyond repair B) in possession of a "great personality" but horribly overweight or C) is already in possesion of a child or to old to even really consider (A woman who is almost old enough to be my mom does not interest me. Sorry mom.)
Though I wouldn't mind having a bit of fun with a decent hooker or two.
OMG I'M SO SEXIST!
I hope by horribly over weight he means the size of a truck otherwise he needs to quit being an ass.Lizmichi said:I haven't dated for a while now but my last relationship was an engagement. .... what the hell is your issue with girls being over weight? If they have a good personality that should be what matters. Dating isn't about sex at all. It's about being committed to someone and getting to know someone better. I hated it when my ex paid for everything. I have my own money thank you and I can spent it. You're not going to find anyone if all you look at is the outside.Tootmania said:I've never understood the whole "dating" thing. That is, I've never understood why I should shell out a ton of my hard-earned cash to provide several meals for some spoiled/pampered female just for a "chance" of getting to dive into her nether regions.
Not when I can just spend a little on the occasional "fling" with a more "open" woman (i.e. prostitutes). At least the prostitute or the one-night stand or whatever is more up front and honest about it.
I was just curious as to ya'lls take on the whole dating thing?
And before anyone tries to bring it up - NO! I have never been on a "real" or "formal" date, I have never paid for some female acquaintances meal ticket, and I've never had a girlfriend on account of pretty much all the women I come across are either A) pampered beyond repair B) in possession of a "great personality" but horribly overweight or C) is already in possesion of a child or to old to even really consider (A woman who is almost old enough to be my mom does not interest me. Sorry mom.)
Though I wouldn't mind having a bit of fun with a decent hooker or two.
OMG I'M SO SEXIST!
Agreed. Shit like that is the reason why girls throw up or just don't eat. That's shallow as hell if that's what he means.Randy11517 said:I hope by horribly over weight he means the size of a truck otherwise he needs to quit being an assLizmichi said:I haven't dated for a while now but my last relationship was an engagement. .... what the hell is your issue with girls being over weight? If they have a good personality that should be what matters. Dating isn't about sex at all. It's about being committed to someone and getting to know someone better. I hated it when my ex paid for everything. I have my own money thank you and I can spent it. You're not going to find anyone if all you look at is the outside.Tootmania said:I've never understood the whole "dating" thing. That is, I've never understood why I should shell out a ton of my hard-earned cash to provide several meals for some spoiled/pampered female just for a "chance" of getting to dive into her nether regions.
Not when I can just spend a little on the occasional "fling" with a more "open" woman (i.e. prostitutes). At least the prostitute or the one-night stand or whatever is more up front and honest about it.
I was just curious as to ya'lls take on the whole dating thing?
And before anyone tries to bring it up - NO! I have never been on a "real" or "formal" date, I have never paid for some female acquaintances meal ticket, and I've never had a girlfriend on account of pretty much all the women I come across are either A) pampered beyond repair B) in possession of a "great personality" but horribly overweight or C) is already in possesion of a child or to old to even really consider (A woman who is almost old enough to be my mom does not interest me. Sorry mom.)
Though I wouldn't mind having a bit of fun with a decent hooker or two.
OMG I'M SO SEXIST!
Yeah. Girls don't do that at allLizmichi said:Agreed. Shit like that is the reason why girls throw up or just don't eat. That's shallow as hell if that's what he means.Randy11517 said:I hope by horribly over weight he means the size of a truck otherwise he needs to quit being an assLizmichi said:I haven't dated for a while now but my last relationship was an engagement. .... what the hell is your issue with girls being over weight? If they have a good personality that should be what matters. Dating isn't about sex at all. It's about being committed to someone and getting to know someone better. I hated it when my ex paid for everything. I have my own money thank you and I can spent it. You're not going to find anyone if all you look at is the outside.Tootmania said:I've never understood the whole "dating" thing. That is, I've never understood why I should shell out a ton of my hard-earned cash to provide several meals for some spoiled/pampered female just for a "chance" of getting to dive into her nether regions.
Not when I can just spend a little on the occasional "fling" with a more "open" woman (i.e. prostitutes). At least the prostitute or the one-night stand or whatever is more up front and honest about it.
I was just curious as to ya'lls take on the whole dating thing?
And before anyone tries to bring it up - NO! I have never been on a "real" or "formal" date, I have never paid for some female acquaintances meal ticket, and I've never had a girlfriend on account of pretty much all the women I come across are either A) pampered beyond repair B) in possession of a "great personality" but horribly overweight or C) is already in possesion of a child or to old to even really consider (A woman who is almost old enough to be my mom does not interest me. Sorry mom.)
Though I wouldn't mind having a bit of fun with a decent hooker or two.
OMG I'M SO SEXIST!