Poll: Death Battle Goku vs Superman

[ecoho]

I am not that familiar with Superman (only seen a few episodes of 90's cartoon), but still:
The rules of deathbattle are simple: characters fight to the death and if they have a "no killing" policy, then it is turned off. Also, they cannot make preparations for a fight, so no solar charging gor Superman and no senzu bean stacking for Goku (it's one of the reasons why batman lost to spiderman: he didn't knew who he was fighting with).
So:
Goku is a better fighter, he is stronger, faster, knows how to teleport and even his basic energy rays are a lot more effective then Supermans eye-lazers. But he is not the smartest person around, so Superman just might trick him.
Also, we don't know which versions of characters will be used, so we are still free to speculate.

Gt goku and all-star superman are their respective versions and while he may not be book smart hes combat smart to the point that while he may show mercy to an enimy he wont do it unless hes pretty much already won.

OT: goku's gonna win. why? because goku has his power pole and superman is weak against magic, add in goku's strangth and speed and sups is so dead.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

We always tend to pair them up when they are at their most powerful form, right?

Well Superman's most powerful form is this:

http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime

Powers:
Immunity- Superman Prime is imune to magic, kryptonite, lightning, mental manipulation, ect.

Creation - Superman Prime is able to create lifeforms out of nothing.

Resurrection - Superman Prime can resurrect the dead and himself.

Omniscience - Superman Prime has possibly learned everything in his time in the sun.

Omnipotence - Superman prime has near limitless abilties as far as we can see.

Omnipresent - Superman Prime can be any where at any time.

All Kryptonian powers under a Yellow Sun. All of his Kryptonian powers are enhanced.

Godlike Super strength - His strength is limitless, he is capable of lifting his own multi-verse.

Godlike Super speed - His speed is incomprehensible to even the abstract beings.

Godlike Super Senses

Godlike Xray vision - He can see through any solid object, with no exceptions.

Godlike Heat vision - A million times hotter than the center of the sun.

Godlike Super Stamina/Endurance - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.

Godlike Invulnerability - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.

Godlike Super Hearing - Cosmic Awareness.

Immortality - Superman Prime, will live until the end of Reality.

I read somewhere that Goku eventually gets all these powers too, so in that case they would always either fight to a draw or destroy each other.

 

[The White Hunter]

Oh man.... Goku is so fast that Supes is practically stationary. Superman is fast, yea, but Goku moves so fast he may as well be teleporting. And he CAN teleport.

And therein lies the outcome. Goku can teleport. Goku can also teleport people with him.

Goku grabs superman. Teleports him to some kryptonite mine or something.

Proceeds to kick his ass.

Simple ¬_¬

 

[The White Hunter]

We always tend to pair them up when they are at their most powerful form, right?

Well Superman's most powerful form is this:

http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime

Powers:
Immunity- Superman Prime is imune to magic, kryptonite, lightning, mental manipulation, ect.

Creation - Superman Prime is able to create lifeforms out of nothing.

Resurrection - Superman Prime can resurrect the dead and himself.

Omniscience - Superman Prime has possibly learned everything in his time in the sun.

Omnipotence - Superman prime has near limitless abilties as far as we can see.

Omnipresent - Superman Prime can be any where at any time.

All Kryptonian powers under a Yellow Sun. All of his Kryptonian powers are enhanced.

Godlike Super strength - His strength is limitless, he is capable of lifting his own multi-verse.

Godlike Super speed - His speed is incomprehensible to even the abstract beings.

Godlike Super Senses

Godlike Xray vision - He can see through any solid object, with no exceptions.

Godlike Heat vision - A million times hotter than the center of the sun.

Godlike Super Stamina/Endurance - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.

Godlike Invulnerability - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.

Godlike Super Hearing - Cosmic Awareness.

Immortality - Superman Prime, will live until the end of Reality.

I read somewhere that Goku eventually gets all these powers too, so in that case they would always either fight to a draw or destroy each other.

Idk about super healing for Goku but he's practically indestructible and at the end of GT he IS immortal. As I posted above, frankly.

 

[The White Hunter]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

 

[Shikua]

Clearly this fight will only end when Goku and Superman use the Potara earrings to fuse and become Clarku.

Or Vegeta shows up and they become Vegito and destroy Superman with the flick of a wrist.

 

[Scarim Coral]

I probably bias to say Goku as I didn't exactly grew up knowing Superman all too well. By all means I'm no expect on Goku but I simnply had watched the DB series more than I ever read/ watched on Superman himself.

Consider the fact there has been some powerful individual like Darkseid, Doomsday and etc had fought Superman before means Superman is not god like (well it take someone powerful to harm him).

I feel Goku martial art training will give him the edge against Superman depsite knowing his superspeed may keep up with Goku speed.

Sure you can argue that Goku will tried himself out before Superman does but I feel by the time it reached that, Superman would had taken alot of beaten than for him to fight back. Yet again I suppose when Goku turn super saiyan will be a factor too including which forms of SS he go throught too.

Sure the whole Krytonite has been brought up but I think the better question is that are they on Earth during this deathmatch or on a different planet where the sun is not red?

 

[Lucane]

A thought occurs:

A technique is exhibited in DBZ that allows the user to create a light ball that generates the same light waves as the sun reflected off the moon. Surely it's not out of the question Goku or one of the others could develop a technique to generate light waves like those of a red star, rendering Superman useless?

Not that this is a serious discussion, but still.

Possibly true but the folks running Death Battle don't allow time for learning about their opponents unless they naturally knew them prior in some well know fashion I.E. "The Ninja Turtles: Battle Royal" where a certain turtle gained an advantage by know his brothers well enough to know who he should take on first if they all knew only one of them could walk out alive.

So if Kakarot had a chance to learn that about Super-man he could maybe do that (unless Kaioken just happens to be that light spectrum) But Goku doesn't like fighting dirty so he likely wouldn't even if he could.

Though,you making me remember Goku likes to fight fairly I'd think a desperate Superman is a bigger threat because he'll lobotomize someone if he feels he has to. Though Goku's never been big on thinking.​

 

[EHKOS]

Proof that Goku would win. He wouldn't even need a senzu bean.

 

[EHKOS]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

Mmmm, Whitebeard is human though.

Spoiler

He also dies from normal wounds

if this is a fight to the death Batman always looses because of his "No Kill" rule.

 

[aba1]

This has been settled. It's been proven with scientific math that Superman's power level is less than 7000, which means he's weaker (and would lose) to Goku by the time he learned Kaioken and was on his way back to fight Nappa and Vegeta.

This was concluded by some measure that defined Superman's strength by comparison to a regular human being (probably mentioned in a comic or else where lore wise) with a power level (according to Raditz's scouter) being 5.

Even if it were 1, Superman would at best reach only 35 000. Krillin could beat Superman post-Namek.

Superman and Goku have similar abilities, but the Dragonball universe is filled with ridiculously powered creatures where as DC contends with very human-level threats most of the time.

This actually sounds about right. I read/watch both Superman and Dragon Ball and even though supermans power changes drastically depending on when or what you are reading I would say superman at his strongest is weaker than Goku at his strongest if not simply because Goku is strong enough to destroy planets in a single blow about midway through the series and only gets wayyyyyyyyyy stronger from there.

 

[Lucane]

Goku no contest. He could destroy an entire planet long before he even went Super Saiyan and just look how powerful he was by the end of GT.

I think Chi-Chi vs. Lois Lane would be a better fight but OK whatever.

That would be no contest either considering Chi-Chi is trained in martial arts and is a lot stronger than the average human.

I know, I know. Daughter of the Ox king, martial arts and one of the strongest women on earth but cat fight... YeYe Cat fight. Maybe they'll kiss.

Well it'd be less of a cat fight and more a tiger mauling a small kitten

Unless it's Lois Lane during "All-Star Superman" where Clark makes "Superman" for a day juice coded to the drinker by their DNA so it only works on the intended person and lasts for 24 hours making her as tough as Superman.(I think before his Sun Bathing.) But then Chi-Chi was granted a Wish that makes her as tough(tougher?) as(than) Goku so if he's powered up She is without even breaking a sweat. Though she lacks the "special" skills Goku has learned over the years I don't think she's even learned how to fly ever.

 

[Lucane]

Proof that Goku would win. He wouldn't even need a senzu bean.

I'm sorry but that information is a little dated... for both of them. For research on fictional characters the Death Battle Crew have done some homework and going with versions that have reached far higher levels of power/speed/etc.

 

[MetalGenocide]

At the peak of their power, they are equal.
At the most common way depicted, goku wins.
Why is this even a thing? It's obvious.
Ah well... I guess a dream fight for the sake of having one.

 

[Moderated]

Superman has heat eye beams. Goku has literally been to hell with no ill effects.
Superman can fly pretty fast. Goku can fly so fast he is invisible to the naked eye.
Superman has super strength. Goku also has super strength, but he can dodge every punch superman throws.
Superman can jump. That's cool, I guess.
Goku can destroy planets. Can superman?

 

[The White Hunter]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

Mmmm, Whitebeard is human though.

Spoiler

He also dies from normal wounds

if this is a fight to the death Batman always looses because of his "No Kill" rule.

I'd hardly call

Spoiler

the wounds Whitebeard dies from anywhere near normal, all the holes in his body, a huge amount of stab and gunshot wounds, not to mention basically missing half his head and having his insides roasted, all well into his 70's and dying of illness anyway

Yeah if a death fight then Batman loses. Unless he has some kind of Whitebeard repellant bat-spray... What if we replace Whitebeard with Shanks?...

Edit: How about Monkey D. Luffy (post-timeskip, so with all 3 Haki forms and mastery of his Gear techniques) vs that dude from the fantastic 4 that stretches?

 

[The White Hunter]

Clearly this fight will only end when Goku and Superman use the Potara earrings to fuse and become Clarku.

Or Vegeta shows up and they become Vegito and destroy Superman with the flick of a wrist.

Except Vegito would just toy with him and end up getting his ass kicked somehow because he's too much Vegeta and not enough Goku.

SSJ4 Gogeta, now thats victory by just blinking...

 

[chozo_hybrid]

There wouldn't be a fight, because they wouldn't have a reason to. Besides, I call them equals, especially since Superman and Goku are basically alternate versions of one another. Last son of Krypton/Vegeta, arrived in a small space ship, has super human strength and abilities, the list of similarities go on and on.

If for some reason they had to fight, I would say it would end in a draw, Goku wouldn't kill him because he's not evil and Superman tends to not kill people either.

Spoiler: Here's an image to sum up my opnion.

Yeah, this is the most likely scenario. They're both genuinely good guys. Goku has been known to kill his enemies as a last way out.

If they were to fight I would say they would prove to be evenly matched. I really don't know if it would be possible to determine the outcome of such a battle.

Exactly, I've never understood these deathmatch scenarios for characters from different things. I guess the idea is novel, but I've never been one to mash things together like that.

 

[Macgyvercas]

This all hinges on whether or not Goku has Kryponite. Because if he doesn't, the Boy Scout will ultimately win.

Teleports him to Kryptonite.

Now I have one for you:

Whitebeard vs Batman.

Batman is the motherfucking Batman. Whitebeards punches shatter the air itself. Discuss.

Nerd fail.

Superman's home planet's name is Krypton. Kryptonite is what's left of the planet after it was destroyed. Ergo, teleportation to Krypton is impossible unless one can also travel in time.

 

[Ieyke]

See, that's ultimately the thing about this - Warhammer 40,000 completely outclasses every other sci-fi universe in terms of power level. The entire premise of the setting is that everything is turned up past 11 and registers over 9000 on the Holy-Shit-O-Meter.

Dragon Ball Z, similarly, exists purely to make the extreme power level of every episode even more insane than the episode before it.
The DC Universe has limits of sorts designed to sustain an ongoing, shared comicbook universe. Superman can only get so powerful before he outclasses anything any everything and invalidates the need for any other heroes and the possibility of dealing with human-centric storylines.
DBZ has no such issues. Goku is THE hero. Human-level storylines are basically irrelevant when all the relevant characters are godlike superbeings. DBZ simply doesn't need to obey any sort of limits.

Goku in basically all of his adult forms is always more powerful than Superman in all but his very most powerful form - Superman Prime. Even then, Superman Prime isn't really a valid comparison, because he's an alternate reality "What If?" version of Superman from like 1000 years in the future. Superman Prime would be something to compare to like a "What If?" Super Saiyan 10 Goku or something.


Anyone saying Superman is invincible when there's no Kryptonite involved... No.
Superman is simply super tough. There are plenty of beings in DC (Wonder Woman, Darkseid, Doomsday etc) who are easily powerful enough to hurt Superman just by punching him. These are punches that simply devastate structures in the immediate area of the fight.
And that's what I was saying earlier - the attacks regularly aimed at Goku tend to level whole mountain ranges.

Just the ambient power generated by Goku and his enemies fighting tends to be enough to devastate the surrounding landscape.

Goku is like Superman....except waaaaaay more powerful. Instead of Kryptonite, Goku simply ends up fighting more and more powerful enemies. That's the only reason he dies.

Superman's power varies depending on sunlight, proximity to Kryptonite, etc.
Goku only ever gets more powerful.
Getting his ass beat makes Goku more powerful.
Like Hulk, anger makes Goku more powerful...except it's permanent and he only gets MORE powerful the next time you make him mad enough.
Dying makes Goku waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful.
Being dead is time Goku utilizes to become more powerful.
Flying on a spaceship is time Goku uses to become more powerful.
Growing back his tail makes Goku more powerful.
Kaio-ken multiplies Goku's power.
Every level of Super Saiyan transformation makes Goku exponentially more powerful than the level before it.
Just FIGHTING makes Goku more powerful...and all he does is fight.


Initially it SOUNDS like it'd be a good match up, but Goku just takes all the same concepts as Superman and runs with them like a crazy person.