Poll: Diablo 3: Will you buy it?

[camazotz]

Woah woah woah.

How is selling items for real cash a bad idea when PLAYERS are the ones who sell it?
If you are good, then you could farm items and make real cash from it.
If you are bad, then 'pay to win' by lining a smart players pocket.

I think this has to be one of the best ideas ever for gaming.

You'll see, trust me. It's going to be a new dark age for gaming, I think. Read up on what's going on over at EVE Online.

I don't begrudge the concept, and I accept that people will pay stupid amounts of cash for virtual objects, but I lament that one day not far from now it might be possible that I simply can't pick up and buy a game for a set price and get the whole game in one package, that any proper experience with a game will require a steady stream of income to purchase it, piece by piece, with no proper end in sight. Blizzard is going to get us used to the idea of micro-transactions as a way of life. Even though we wouldn't pay to see a movie that stops every fifteen minutes until we feed a machine another dollar....we're going to end up doing exactly that for games.

 

[ElectroJosh]

This was the only game I was definately going to purchase over the next year - all the other ones that interested me fell into the "maybe" category.

Now D3 has also fallen into that category. No offline play is a big negative for me so I'll have to wait and see what the critics say and give it a trial play myself before committing to it. Kind of annoying because, until that "no offline play thing", this was going to be a "pre-order it and take the day off work when it arrives" game for me - now it isn't.

As a side-note: I don't care about the auction house thing one way or the other. I didn't purchase items for D2 and wouldn't have intended to for D3.

 

[camazotz]

I'm not massively bothered about these technically-negative changes barring the irritating precedent they set.

Always online? Well I am anyway! This changes nothing. When my internet connection does I don't shrug my shoulders and play something else; I panic.

Auction house for real money? Well I don't really intend on playing multiplayer so what other people do won't affect me much. I sure as Hell aren't going to buy my way to the end of the game but if I find some awesome item I don't want, I could sell it. Capitalism ho!

No modding.
Well. Depends what's classed as a mod so until we know, I can't comment with any accuracy.

I wonder how Blizzard is going to profit from the auction house (and trust me, they will). My big question is, will they have an up-front listing fee (like Ebay) or will they end-load it with a percentage of the sale, or both (also like Ebay)?

The auction house could end up being a costly venture if people post stuff for sale and it doesn't sell. Will be very interested to see how it works out. As much as I want people to be able to make money, I'm loathe to root for its success, because frankly I really will miss the day when I could plop down $60 and get a complete game, with no need to spend anything else. I guess those days are disappearing fast already...but....damn....going a little too fast for my tastes now!

 

[mysecondlife]

I usually wait for expansions to buy them altogether.

so yes, I will buy them eventually. That will also give me time to get a good PC set up.

 

[zombiesinc]

Do not want to buy it when you can spend real money and not play the game properly

You realize this has already been happening for several years? It happened with Diablo II, it's happening with WoW, and most MMORPGs, especially the "free-to-play" ones. The only difference now is that Blizzard is officially allowing it in Diablo III. I get where you're coming from, and there certainly will be those people who are too lazy to play the game and simply spend some real money on gear/items. And sure, it may be annoying from time to time, but am I going to avoid playing the game altogether? No. I suppose part of my lack of concern is due to the fact that I stay away from playing with strangers though.

OT - I've been waiting several years for this, so yes. I've got a few friends to (hopefully) play with, so booya.

 

[Reaper195]

I never played the first two. I would be slightly more interested in it though if it were a new game and not part of a series in which the last one came out over a fucking decade ago! Whatever happened to new games? All I'm seeing this year is RAGE................noooo; CBF actually looking it up, but RAGE is the only big-name game coming out this year that I can currently think of over 5 minutes that isn't part of a series. What the hell, gaming world?

 

[Tony2077]

i plan to get it as long as there is a way to play by myself and my net is always on and mods i don't care about and there is a gold ah so meh to that as well

 

[StriderShinryu]

I might buy it, I might not. It still looks good but I'm definitely a lot less on the "buy it" side of things now than I was prior to, specifically, the announcement of no offline single player play. For me I guess it depends on how good Torchlight 2 turns out. I definitely feel the dungeon crawl random loot itch that both games would scratch, but I'm not big enough into the genre to get both. If Torchlight 2 turns out great, then Diablo 3 can go find the nearest cliff to jump off.

 

[Jimbo1212]

You'll see, trust me. It's going to be a new dark age for gaming, I think. Read up on what's going on over at EVE Online.

I don't begrudge the concept, and I accept that people will pay stupid amounts of cash for virtual objects, but I lament that one day not far from now it might be possible that I simply can't pick up and buy a game for a set price and get the whole game in one package, that any proper experience with a game will require a steady stream of income to purchase it, piece by piece, with no proper end in sight. Blizzard is going to get us used to the idea of micro-transactions as a way of life. Even though we wouldn't pay to see a movie that stops every fifteen minutes until we feed a machine another dollar....we're going to end up doing exactly that for games.

....but that day arrived years ago.
What do you think DLC is?
Look at the Sims 3 - 50% of content missing from day one as you have to buy it. ME2 - you want all the characters and storyline? Well don't expect to get that in one of our games!

With this method, at least you can make some money back and abuse people who have to pay to win rather then just losing out.

 

[teebeeohh]

no
blizzards needs a game to tank or at least do bad enough to make them stop and think.
and Diablo is my concession, i need love starcraft and need my wow-fix every once in a while (i usually pick up an expansion and go through the first tier of raids).

 

[Weaver]

It's region locked so I'm not going to get it.

 

[Jimbo1212]

Woah woah woah.

How is selling items for real cash a bad idea when PLAYERS are the ones who sell it?
If you are good, then you could farm items and make real cash from it.
If you are bad, then 'pay to win' by lining a smart players pocket.

I think this has to be one of the best ideas ever for gaming.

It's bad if the end result is that nothing halfway decent ever ends up on the gold auction house. Then everybody is just playing with the mindset that they're out to screw everybody else with shameless cash-ins, and character advancement becomes only for the people with a lot of disposable income.

I doubt that blizzard will have made AH purchases vital for levelling. Also, if it is the same as the previous Diablos, then you can grind to your hearts content with re-spawns etc in dungeons.
Also, it is not Blizzards fault if all that happens is people sell things for cash - it is the gamer who buys the items fault. This has been the case for many years that too many gamers have put up with bad purchases (copious DLC, poor games, micro-transactions etc) and now these devs are just capitalising on gamers who have too much spare cash/no other expenditure.

 

[SixWingedAsura]

No thanks. I refuse to play a game where I'm forced to play with people who can simply buy their way to victory just to increase the cash in the ever growing pool of money that Blizzard Employees are obviously swimming in.

 

[meone007]

Ok, two points. First, the no offline support is just a different take on DRM that I honestly think is more palatable. Instead of saying it can only be installed on X computers, you can play on infinite computers, fully transfer all characters, at the cost of signing in with your user name.

I would understand if everyone who has a problem with this has a spotty or no internet, but that is not the case. I am sorry to those people with spotty internet, you cant play TF2, any MMORPG, or Brink. But the loudest people are the same exact people who have a problem with every other DRM/anti-pirate device. I would bet %50 percent of the "boycotters" are just pissed they can't torrent the game, admit it.

Second, the auction house is NOT the same micro-transaction model seen in other games. You miss nothing by not using it, nothing is locked out of the game. You will have %100 of the game at release, barring the good chance of an expansion pack. The only benefit people that use it have is they don't have to farm. They still have to play through the game to get to the upper levels, just like everyone else.

So, if you are boycotting a game for strictly moral principles, make sure the designers are actually doing something wrong.

 

[ImprovizoR]

I'm not buying any games with always-on DRM if those games have a single player mode, or should have a single player mode. I don't care how good the game is. If Mass Effect 3 were to have always-on DRM, I wouldn't buy it. Pirates are gonna make it offline anyway, so it's better if the actual developer does it. At least they won't lose any sales. I never played Diablo 1 and 2 online and I thought they were among the best games I've ever played. For me, Diablo is a single player game. And a single player game shouldn't require constant internet connection. If we accept this, soon all games will be on cloud and we won't own any games we buy! They already got away with selling us a license instead of the actual product. We need to stop this before it's too late.

 

[Sm0gg]

yes, I don't like this MT trend & it's a shame Blizzard are doing this to Diablo3. I won't buy & I have been looking forward to this release.

 

[Jimbo1212]

Not for leveling, for character advancement. At some point, your gear starts capping out and it's hard to stay out in the fields of hell for more than a second or two before dying, unless you have a bunch of rare/unique stuff. And it's not always possible to get all the right random drops for your character class. So if nobody is putting any of that rare/unique stuff on the gold auction house, your two options are either pay cash for character advancement or die a whole lot in the pursuit of getting the items you need to play the higher difficulty levels. Neither of those options is any fun, which kinda removes the game aspect from it.

you are making a lot of presumptions.
Look at the previous games - you did not need to trade to win. It meant you had to grind, but that is how the games worked. Why do you think Diablo 3 will be different?

 

[Hiphophippo]

No thanks. I refuse to play a game where I'm forced to play with people who can simply buy their way to victory just to increase the cash in the ever growing pool of money that Blizzard Employees are obviously swimming in.

It's Diablo. You aren't forced to play with anyone.

 

[Hiphophippo]

If we accept this, soon all games will be on cloud and we won't own any games we buy! They already got away with selling us a license instead of the actual product. We need to stop this before it's too late.

You already own very, very, very few games that you buy. As you said you own a license to play it that can be revoked at any time for any reason. This includes retail games.

And don't be naive. Have you seen how much the internet has taken over just in the last few years? Everything will be on "the cloud" within your life time. You sound like an old man raging against the system because 8 track tapes are ridiculous because they make you buy all your music again. There was nothing wrong with record players!

 

[octafish]

I never liked the Diablo games. I was never going to buy it. I'm even more not going to buy it now.