Poll: Do you believe humans are apes?

[himemiya1650]

Hell's no, even if our DNA is similar and we have ancestry. I'll only be classified with them when they learn to build structures, declare war and use the internet for trolling.

 

[L-J-F]

Evolution yeah, kind of a strange question though. Why no say that?

"Do you believe in Evolution".

 

[ShadowsofHope]

You are a moron. Evolution is the unifying theory within biology. As somebody who has studied biology in higher education for over 2 years, I can clearly state that evolution is a fact, and you are in a serious, mentally deficient denial.

You are not in the Dark Ages anymore, you are now the weak minority, it is time to wake up and smell the evidence.

People like you give atheism a bad name.

I didn't hear atheist... all I heard is "use your brain"

I use my brain often, it's how I can tell that calling someone's beliefs "Mentally deficient denial" is a pathetically offensive and needless thing to say...

So is saying that what he said had anything to do with atheism. Also it's actually the same as saying that people who can not project their own beliefs onto another and get mad about it are pathetic...

It's clear as day that he's atheist by what he says, don't insult my intelligence by acting like it's not blatant. Regardless, I'm not annoyed because he doesn't believe in God, I'm annoyed because he thinks less of those who do, because they do.

Evolution =/= atheism. There is a strong possibility that he is an atheist that has scientific knowledge at his fingers, yes. Though I agree, the self-superiority thing is fairly annoying. Then again, it's on both sides of the equation.

Though I would like to know from one of your other posts what you meant by "religious liberties"?

More OT, however. We are from a common ancestry, yes. Straight-cut evolved from apes? Arguable. But we do share several similarities both at the genetic level, and the physical level. We are not entirely unique in this case, or even so much superior as we are intellectually advanced.

 

[LimitedSkills]

-withdrawn-

 

[gamer3141]

i believe if you are to classify humans as a species, then yes, the closest would be apes. I don't believe that were are evolved from apes. I think humans were its own species just not as smart. If humans are an evolved ape then i would like to evolve a gene to protect me from sunburns. i hate sunburns.

 

[Knight Templar]

Absolutely not. I think there are just as many genetic differences between humans and apes as there are between cats and dogs.

There is 2% difference between cats and dogs?
We are apes in the way a duck is a bird.

 

[Drexlor]

Yes, I believe in evolution.

 

[crudus]

Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.

See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

That chart tells us nothing relevant. Religion and evolution don't necessarily preclude the other. I know plenty of Christians and Muslims(~50% of that chart) who believe in a deity as well as evolution. Besides, this topic isn't even about evolution. It is about current taxonomy classifications. Evolution or not you have to admit there are a lot more similarities between humans and apes than humans and giraffes. The question is are there enough similarities to group humans into apes.

 

[The Austin]

Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.

See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

That chart tells us nothing relevant. Religion and evolution don't necessarily preclude the other. I know plenty of Christians and Muslims(~50% of that chart) who believe in a deity as well as evolution.

For the fourth time, my comment had nothing to do with the evolution not being real, the comment was about not being a jackass.

 

[cheese_wizington]

We're Humans aren't we?

This is odd.

 

[Diddy_King]

We are not apes, we are descended from a common ancestor of apes. So yes, I do strongly believe in evolution, it's just so much more logical than the alternatives.

 

[LimitedSkills]

Absolutely not. I think there are just as many genetic differences between humans and apes as there are between cats and dogs.

There is 2% difference between cats and dogs?
We are apes in the way a duck is a bird.

Just did some research. Its at least a 30% difference between chimps and humans, not 2%. That, however, does show that my guess was very off the mark. So, my apologies for the ignorance.

More on topic: "Are we apes?" Technically we could be. But morality plays in my logic. If a chimp kills a chimp, its called "nature." If a human kills a human, its called "murder."

Its a double standard. If we hold ourselves to a higher standard than an ape, then I say we are not apes. Even looking at genetics, I think there are enough differences that we can say we are no longer apes; assuming we were to begin with. I, personally don't think evolution is true. Nothing has been proven 100% and I refuse to believe in incomplete facts.

 

[Burningsok]

We aren't apes but we have evolved from them, a mutation.

 

[zehydra]

Science doesn't determine what is an ape. Defining 'ape' is what determines what is an ape, and that's not science.

Anyhoo, I've always considered the human race to be a sort of one of a kind species that is one step ABOVE apes. We sort of should have our own category.

 

[LadyRhian]

I object to the word "Believe" in the poll. Science is not a matter of belief at all.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I'd like to say no, i really do.

But that just requires WAY too much more imagination then I have room for in my standard human skull.

 

[Bocaj2000]

Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.

See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

That chart tells us nothing relevant. Religion and evolution don't necessarily preclude the other. I know plenty of Christians and Muslims(~50% of that chart) who believe in a deity as well as evolution.

For the fourth time, my comment had nothing to do with the evolution not being real, the comment was about not being a jackass.

Wait... I'm quite sure that there are more Islamic people in to world than Christians. How accurate is that chart?

 

[The Austin]

Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.

See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

That chart tells us nothing relevant. Religion and evolution don't necessarily preclude the other. I know plenty of Christians and Muslims(~50% of that chart) who believe in a deity as well as evolution.

For the fourth time, my comment had nothing to do with the evolution not being real, the comment was about not being a jackass.

Wait... I'm quite sure that there are more Islamic people in to world than Christians. How accurate is that chart?

Christianity actually has more people than Islam.
Strange, I know, but according to my Human Geography class it's true.

 

[Calatar]

Absolutely not. I think there are just as many genetic differences between humans and apes as there are between cats and dogs.

There is 2% difference between cats and dogs?
We are apes in the way a duck is a bird.

Just did some research. Its at least a 30% difference between chimps and humans, not 2%. That, however, does show that my guess was very off the mark. So, my apologies for the ignorance.

More on topic: "Are we apes?" Technically we could be. But morality plays in my logic. If a chimp kills a chimp, its called "nature." If a human kills a human, its called "murder."

Its a double standard. If we hold ourselves to a higher standard than an ape, then I say we are not apes. Even looking at genetics, I think there are enough differences that we can say we are not apes.

Technically, if we were apes (which we are, scientifically and genetically speaking), we would be incapable of holding ourselves to a higher standard than an ape, seeing as we are holding ourselves to our own standards, which happen to be those of an ape.

The existence of morality among a species does not prevent that species from being classified along with other species. Humans are still animals, like it or not. Humans are mammals too. And so on, all the way down the list to great apes.

If dolphins had moral codes (they may indeed), would they cease to be cetaceans?

Being an ape doesn't make us any less human anymore than being an ape makes a chimpanzee less of a chimpanzee. No we aren't the same as a chimpanzee. Gorillas are genetically different than chimps too, even more so than humans are. Does that mean they are no longer apes?

You can cling to your identity as a member of the species, but you still will be an ape.