Poll: Do you care about realism??

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xam883

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i dont give a flying fuc* about realism but its being used to much and when that happens createtivity becomes less and less
 

Painful illusion

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You have a very good point in your view and I have to agree
derelix said:
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Painful illusion said:
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Painful illusion said:
Games were first created to escape the realness of reality, but yes realism in games are fun but to much of anything can be a bad thing. So a good balance is great but also depends on the game. You can't really ask for realism in a Ratchet and Clank game.
Huh? Games were first created as a way to simulate a real sport, how were they "created' to escape from anything?
It's just for fun. If you need to escape from reality, you need some help because your outlook on life is pretty depressing. There are better ways to live than just "getting through" life just so you can get to your video games and "escape" reality.

First off I'm going to ignore your ignorant comments about needing help on my outlook on life when you didn't clearly the message in my post and like to look down on people from your pseudo-pedestal. The first guy who created a video game wasn't thinking."Hey I like football so let me make it less fun and make a video game out of it were people sit down and just use there hands as a way to play". No the first games didnt have anything to do with any sports maybe besides pong if you consider that a sport. The first games had characters to play with not athletes to catch balls when you could simply go outside and do it.
wow and you call me ignorant?
Yes the first games were all based in reality. No it's not the same as just going out and playing sports. If that was the case, we wouldn't have any fighting games because you can just go boxing instead.
My point was that games are not made to escape from reality, if you feel you need to escape from reality you probably have a problem. You can say I'm "judging" you or "on my pedestal" if you want but it's like a guy saying he drinks and smokes pot to escape from reality. It doesn't lead to good places, it usually leads to delusional thinking as a better way to escape from reality. Don't believe me, fine. I could care less about your life, just pointing out a simple fact for you.

Playing D&D and video games are fun but when you use them to escape from reality, it's a slippery slope.
Ok I see your point and I do apologize for calling you ignorant so let me reiterate. When I said "as a way to escape reality" I didn't actually literally mean try to escape reality. I really meant as looking at video games as another outlet of entertainment. People go and see movies even if they are far from being realistic ie. Wanted, Transformers, Avatar, etc and they seem to like them. They go to see or experience something that isn't normal or seem like everyday monotony. The same goes for video games, people buy Halo, Gears of war and God of war, not because it's realistic but because in a sense it's almost like looking at a movie where the story has more weight than the realism factor and in actaulity there really are not that many realistic games unless you count sport games but with options to make the a.i. behave how you want it, that takes away the realism from the game. As for me I don't use video games to escape the world around me. Although video games and movies are something that I like to do I don't use them as a safe haven from life.
Alright I probably misread your original post, my mistake.

Still I have to say that even "unrealistic" art is still based in reality. A movie like wanted is only as fun as it is because it slightly skews reality. Guns shoot bullets, this is how the real world works, all they did was twist that reality a little to make it more fun.
Maybe I have a different definition of realism, but I honestly don't see what definition people are using. People keep bringing up MW yet that was a pretty unrealistic game, I think people are confusing "realistic" with boring. Real life is not boring, it's exciting with constant drama and violence and meaning.
Our individual lives are only boring if we allow them to be. You can create a better reality around yourself, we already do it to create a "safe" reality.
You have a good point that "unrealistic art" is still based in reality because the human imagination must look at reality as a base to build ideas off of. So yes I can say some are using realistic and boring interchangeably when talking about games, but like you said life is filled with everyday drama, just look at the news for 5 minutes and you'll see. All in all I would have to agree with your point.
 

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It just has to be appropriate to the game. I don't bring up the difficulties that would arise in cleaning a chainsaw bayonet, it's just fucking awesome. But if I'm playing Rainbow Six I don't want recharging energy shields.
 

BenzSmoke

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Realism is something that shouldn't exist in a form of entertainment built on having players do things that would be impossible in reality.
Then again some games, like Rainbow Six: Vegas, wouldn't be as fun if they weren't at least semi-realistic.
I guess what I'm trying to say is: Don't sacrifice fun for the sake of realism.
 

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I like my games silly and my guns shooting shurikans & lightning.

Some realism can be fun but I think it is impossible for a game to have completely realistic elements without it being so hard it is nearly catagorised as broken.

(With somewhat exeptions to Flight Simulators).

I just like my games fun I dont mind if they are silly or 'realistic'.
 

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That would depend entirely on the game being played. It annoys the hell out of me when a game is advertised or presented as "realistic" but puts completely insane things into the game.

On the other, nothin realistic about mario and it's a fun game.
Pretty much this.

Depends on the game, saying on or the other is just stupid, too much realism makes a game boring, and being too unrealistic would make the game chaotic, senseless and confusing.
 

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I will point you to the Game Overthinker episode about realism and tell you that I agree with the statement it makes about realism simply being a STYLE. a style i personally like, but often crave a little variety and go play my killer 7's and my dynasty warrior's and my okami's for a little while.
 

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Sometimes realism is a nice thing to have, but I generally have more fun with wackier physics. For example, crashing into another car in GTA4 results in a pretty realistic crash, with Nico flying through the windshield and skidding along the ground, but I get better reactions out of a game where crashing into a car makes the opposing car fly off into the sunset and explode as it crashes into a mountain while I use my infinitely-replenishing parachute bag to fly to safety.
 

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derelix said:
Drazin said:
I like a little bit of realism but other than that I prefer games to not be realistic.

example: GTA SA is a classic in my opinion
um...SA uses a lot of "realism"
I mean it's not realistic but no game is truly realistic. It takes place in real looking city and has (for the most part) consistent physics.
spawning a jet flying to the highest mountain and driving off in a camper van is very realistic
 

Marowit

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It depends on the type of the game to be honest, but in general I'd prefer a game to not be realistic as they are suppose to be fantastic routes of escapism (and being a solider, cop, etc...IRL can be pretty lame at times).
 

Jon Shannow

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Even games that claim to have realism like COD aren't really that realistic, sure they're a notch up from oblivion but i wouldn't call it realalistic that no matter how many times i get injured i can just sit it off in a corner
 

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WOPR said:
I don't think there's any realism in games
Then you've never played ARMA, Grand Prix Legends, any Flight Sim. All of the REAL realistic games/simulators have such a focused demographic that they exclude the normal gaming population.
 

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if reality were so damn interesting, we wouldnt be playing games in the first place, would we?

realism in games exists to make it more believable and therefore immersive, but thats all its there for; its pretty much like science fiction; it has to be believable enough that the fantastical part is all the more interesting.
 

Twad

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Depends on the tone, art style and goal of the game. Realism does not fit everything.
 

TheRightToArmBears

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It depends. I don't care about regen health or that kind of thing, but I do care about stuff like in Oblivion, where you can repair leather armour with a hammer and it takes 0 amount of time.
 

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KissofKetchup said:
WOPR said:
I don't think there's any realism in games
Then you've never played ARMA, Grand Prix Legends, any Flight Sim. All of the REAL realistic games/simulators have such a focused demographic that they exclude the normal gaming population.
I've played Flight Sim and Grand Prix

I meant I've never seen a realistic shooter (I must be more clear in the future!)
 

Arctodus_Simus

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As stated many many times, it can be great if used properly, and atrocious when done superfluously.

Personally, I'm happy either way, but if a game is advertised as realistic, then I get Just Cause, I'mma feel a bit put out
 

Davey Woo

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If the game is aiming towards the realistic spectrum then yes. I hate games that are supposed to be realistic, but then aren't realistic just cto compensate for balance issues.
 

KissofKetchup

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WOPR said:
KissofKetchup said:
WOPR said:
I don't think there's any realism in games
Then you've never played ARMA, Grand Prix Legends, any Flight Sim. All of the REAL realistic games/simulators have such a focused demographic that they exclude the normal gaming population.
I've played Flight Sim and Grand Prix

I meant I've never seen a realistic shooter (I must be more clear in the future!)
Well the ARMA series is a military simulator. Operation Flashpoint is along the same vein as well.
 

KissofKetchup

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Davey Woo said:
If the game is aiming towards the realistic spectrum then yes. I hate games that are supposed to be realistic, but then aren't realistic just cto compensate for balance issues.
Most of the time I don't really mind when games aren't realistic for balance issues. Mainly because when they aren't realistic in shooters, it only has to do with weapon layouts or weapon choices.