I'm British and voted yes, but honestly more of a "Meh". I like the idea of them, but between the wedding and the baby I'm getting a tad fed up with it all. I am quite a grumpy person though 
Exactly this. All this fawning is absolutely sickening. It's been all over the news since yesterday and barely a relevelant bit of world news is getting past it. They're just people who happened to come out from between the legs of someone who just happened to come from between the legs of someone who was rich. As Thomas Paine so rightly put it "hereditory rulers make as much sense as an hereditory mathematician".Hazy992 said:Define 'like'. I don't have anything against them as people (in fact I actually quite like William and Harry) but the institution of the Royal Family is something I have a fundamental disagreement with. And before any Royalists decide to try and put me in my place and tell me why I'm wrong then just save your breath. I've heard it all before.
I also find the way people fawn over them over every little thing pathetic and embarrassing. Alistair Stewart from ITV News described William & Kate leaving the hospital 'one of the most remarkable moments I've seen in my forty years of journalism' or words to that effect. That is beyond ridiculous, all they did was walk out of a hospital with their baby, something plenty of couples do in this country every day. I don't care if he's third in line to the throne, there's nothing remarkable about it.
And quick question to people outside the Commonwealth with monarchies? Do the people in your country get this worked up over the Royal Family anywhere as much as we do? I feel we're alone in this but I could be wrong.
Edward the viii, is a good example. That guy wanted to help the poor and marry a woman he loved. Edward was outspoken on the rights of the masses and he was kicked out by the politicians for his trouble.Korolev said:I'm half British and I'm completely ambivalent towards them since they don't do anything. I'm aware that they still have some measure of power, but I can guarantee that if the royal family ever attempted to use that power, they'd find themselves swiftly and utterly ignored. The Princes and Princesses get the courtesy treatment because they generally keep to themselves. Should one ever try to boss around the PM or start lopping heads off, you'll find that courtesy disappear very, VERY fast. They know this - the British people tolerate them only if they behave.
Look, I realize that many folk consider the term 'British Isles' as correct when referring to the islands of Britain & Ireland but there are, unsurprisingly, many people in Ireland who take exception to that term. My father is a citizen of Northern Ireland and has lived through 'the troubles', as it's referred to, but thinks of himself as Irish. This is a term which still carries a lot of weight and, quite frankly, there are still parts of Ireland where you'd be taking your life into your own hands if you referred to it as such, publicly.Abomination said:I think the term you're looking for is "from the UK" and not "British". Or do you mean Anglo-Saxon? Did you actually mean "British" as in someone from the British Isles which includes The Republic of Ireland?
Yeah but exactly what did she do to improve relations? Wave her hands at a few passers by, give some hollow gestures that aren't backed up by any kind of political power, give a few apologies cos we kinda cocked things up. Hell I could do that, only I'd actually be sincere. Frankly we could probably achieve the same end result by sending in Stephen Fry or Bill Bailey. At least they might lighten the mood and give people a larf.odolwa99 said:Look, I realize that many folk consider the term 'British Isles' as correct when referring to the islands of Britain & Ireland but there are, unsurprisingly, many people in Ireland who take exception to that term. My father is a citizen of Northern Ireland and has lived through 'the troubles', as it's referred to, but thinks of himself as Irish. This is a term which still carries a lot of weight and, quite frankly, there are still parts of Ireland where you'd be taking your life into your own hands if you referred to it as such, publicly.Abomination said:I think the term you're looking for is "from the UK" and not "British". Or do you mean Anglo-Saxon? Did you actually mean "British" as in someone from the British Isles which includes The Republic of Ireland?
Just giving you another angle on things. That said, I've got nothing against the royals and I have genuine respect for the Queen coming to Ireland and doing her bit to improve relations between our countries. So hats off to her.
Fair point, but considering the various attempts on the life of members of the royal family by the IRA, particularly that of Lord Mountbatten, the Queen's 2nd cousin, it had implications both for her, and us.wolfyrik said:Yeah but exactly what did she do to improve relations? Wave her hands at a few passers by, give some hollow gestures that aren't backed up by any kind of political power, give a few apologies cos we kinda cocked things up. Hell I could do that, only I'd actually be sincere. Frankly we could probably achieve the same end result by sending in Stephen Fry or Bill Bailey. At least they might lighten the mood and give people a larf.
Hold up, I wasn't the one claiming a person is one or the other. I was asking what the OP meant and the various interpretations the word "British" can have.odolwa99 said:Look, I realize that many folk consider the term 'British Isles' as correct when referring to the islands of Britain & Ireland but there are, unsurprisingly, many people in Ireland who take exception to that term. My father is a citizen of Northern Ireland and has lived through 'the troubles', as it's referred to, but thinks of himself as Irish. This is a term which still carries a lot of weight and, quite frankly, there are still parts of Ireland where you'd be taking your life into your own hands if you referred to it as such, publicly.Abomination said:I think the term you're looking for is "from the UK" and not "British". Or do you mean Anglo-Saxon? Did you actually mean "British" as in someone from the British Isles which includes The Republic of Ireland?
Just giving you another angle on things. That said, I've got nothing against the royals and I have genuine respect for the Queen coming to Ireland and doing her bit to improve relations between our countries. So hats off to her.
I understand what you're saying, and I'm not endorsing violence in any form (I get nauseous when I see someone bleeding, for god's sake), the reason for my post was to simply give another perspective. I have an English granny, a Northern Irish father and my grandfather, though not a member of the IRA, knew people who claimed to be. The world is made binary by people in power but things are rarely so simple. That was the point I was making.Abomination said:It is geographic, geopolitical, cultural, or imperial. Each version is right and each version is wrong. A citizen of the Republic of Ireland could be British, not-British, British and not-British respectively or any combination of those... apart from the geographic one because they ARE collectively known as the "British Isles" and it would be as accurate as calling an Indian, a Russian, a Chinaman, a Thai and a Korean "Asian".
The fact that someone might be offended and visit violence upon me doesn't change that in the least.