Poll: do you think children aren't able to make decisions for themselves?

ScruffyTheJanitor

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Parents have a wealth of experience that you don't. They were your age too and they probably now realise that their parents probably knew better most of the time.
 

Gladion

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I remember a case where a woman was riding a bike, with her 2-3 year-old-kid on the back, it was deepest winter. The kid only had his underwear on. When the woman was asked wtf was going on, she said the boy didn't want to put on any clothes, and since he was a human being with human rights, she said she couldn't force him to, so she let him have his will.

Well, small children cannot make decisions like that - they don't know any better, we have to teach them.

But maybe you want to tell us what age you are talking about. If you're old enough to go on the internet by yourself, let me tell you the following: I felt like you did, parents taking care of me to a point it gets incredibly annoying. Now, I'm far beyond legal age and my parents still treat me like a kid when I visit them. "Boy, you should eat more!" - "Boy, you should wear warmer clothes!". Stuff like this will never change, but I don't really complain. They're parents ffs, they care about you even when youre fifty.
 

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dcomproductions said:
dietpeachsnapple said:
While I may think that we underestimate the intelligence and resilience of our youth to learn from their mistakes, I also think you aren't doing yourself any favors by misspelling "decisions."
so i can't spell, that doesn't mean i'm any less mature than an adult.
Well, the lack of the ability to spell or use correct capitalization certainly don't help you look any more mature, especially with spell check.
 

dcomproductions

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fluffybacon said:
dcomproductions said:
fluffybacon said:
dcomproductions said:
it feels like my parents don't think of me as another human being, but that i'm but a toy to them, to be molded into what they want. i can make my own decisions and just because i'm not 18 doesn't make me less of a human. i want to know if there are others this blinded.
EMO ALERT!

*DANGEROUS LEVELS OF ANGST BASED RADIATION AHEAD*

Baton the hatches! duck and cover! to the bunkers!​
actually, my parents are the least of my troubles and am pissed at the world YOU PRICK.
[sub]Good thing I ducked and covered[/sub]

My advice to you:

Calm down and grow up. You're ignorant, young, and stupid.

Your parents know best.
your doing what most older people do to me, judge me. they think because my parents don't treat me as an equal that i'm immature "ignorant, young, and stupid". most of the time, they are right and have let me learn what's best but now it just feels like they're exercising authority just because they can. i won't go into details but no matter how old i get in their eyes i'm 5.
 

Lexodus

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I know how you feel. It doesn't matter how many times I prove that I'm not a delinquent/alcoholic/rapist/murderer/arsonist/jaywalker to my parents, they won't back the fuck off and keep treating me like a four-year-old.
 

Lexodus

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Thamous said:
dcomproductions said:
dietpeachsnapple said:
While I may think that we underestimate the intelligence and resilience of our youth to learn from their mistakes, I also think you aren't doing yourself any favors by misspelling "decisions."
so i can't spell, that doesn't mean i'm any less mature than an adult.
Well, the lack of the ability to spell or use correct capitalization certainly don't help you look any more mature, especially with spell check.
The appropriate quote: While sloppy writing does not invariably mean sloppy thinking, we've generally found the correlation to be strong -- and we have no use for sloppy thinkers. If you can't yet write competently, learn to. - Eric Raymond
 

Thamous

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Lexodus said:
Thamous said:
dcomproductions said:
dietpeachsnapple said:
While I may think that we underestimate the intelligence and resilience of our youth to learn from their mistakes, I also think you aren't doing yourself any favors by misspelling "decisions."
so i can't spell, that doesn't mean i'm any less mature than an adult.
Well, the lack of the ability to spell or use correct capitalization certainly don't help you look any more mature, especially with spell check.
The appropriate quote: While sloppy writing does not invariably mean sloppy thinking, we've generally found the correlation to be strong -- and we have no use for sloppy thinkers. If you can't yet write competently, learn to. - Eric Raymond
I'll be sure to add that quote to the vault, thank you.
 

dcomproductions

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EspirituExterminatus said:

Yes, I actually have that poster.
You are legally your parents property so shut up and do what your elders tell you. Because yes, they do know better than you. If you do not like it. Shut up and move out. Prove that you can take care of yourself as an adult.
Crying about shit on the internet is so not the way to handle things and just proves you are not deserving of adult respect.
try this, legally, i can't move out because, legally, i'm a minor and most of the time they are right, it's just lately they haven't been letting me do anything myself and it's just such stupid things that i fell like i'm turning younger. and all i'm doing is seeing if everyone is so judgmental as my parents which so far i'm guessing is a yes thanks to you and 9 other people.
 

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dcomproductions said:
fluffybacon said:
dcomproductions said:
it feels like my parents don't think of me as another human being, but that i'm but a toy to them, to be molded into what they want. i can make my own decisions and just because i'm not 18 doesn't make me less of a human. i want to know if there are others this blinded.
EMO ALERT!

*DANGEROUS LEVELS OF ANGST BASED RADIATION AHEAD*

Baton the hatches! duck and cover! to the bunkers!​
actually, my parents are the least of my troubles and am pissed at the world YOU PRICK.
i'm sorry but this right here proves you immaturity. the fact that as soon as some one makes a comment you dont like you get irate and start calling names proves that you still need to grow up which is why you get treated the way you do

now then about your question it really depends on the kid from what i have seen from you i would say no but if they prove they can be mature then yes they should get to make their own decisions
 

Xanian

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I don't trust most 21-year-old people to make their own decisions, let alone a 16-year-old. The likelihood that you are mature enough to make decisions for yourself is slim, and let's be honest, most of this angst-ing right now is related to your slow shift into cerebral and hormonal maturity.

Everything feels more salient and the world revolves around you. No one understands you, no one listens to you, no one cares about you....blah blah blah. Don't worry, you'll grow out of it soon.

TO enlighten us, what decisions, pray tell, are your parents taking from you?
 

dcomproductions

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Randomosity said:
dcomproductions said:
fluffybacon said:
dcomproductions said:
it feels like my parents don't think of me as another human being, but that i'm but a toy to them, to be molded into what they want. i can make my own decisions and just because i'm not 18 doesn't make me less of a human. i want to know if there are others this blinded.
EMO ALERT!

*DANGEROUS LEVELS OF ANGST BASED RADIATION AHEAD*

Baton the hatches! duck and cover! to the bunkers!​
actually, my parents are the least of my troubles and am pissed at the world YOU PRICK.
i'm sorry but this right here proves you immaturity. the fact that as soon as some one makes a comment you dont like you get irate and start calling names proves that you still need to grow up which is why you get treated the way you do

now then about your question it really depends on the kid from what i have seen from you i would say no but if they prove they can be mature then yes they should get to make their own decisions
funny how if i get angry at someone that makes me immature and not capable of making decisions. i guess that when kids get mad, they're immature, but when adults do it, they become right. so you've never been offended by something so much that you start verbally abusing. and verbal abuse is the worst thing ever, right? i mean, i'm an immature kid so i need everything spoon fed to me. i guess i'll go shit myself and go sit in the corner now.
 

dcomproductions

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Xanian said:
I don't trust most 21-year-old people to make their own decisions, let alone a 16-year-old. The likelihood that you are mature enough to make decisions for yourself is slim, and let's be honest, most of this angst-ing right now is related to your slow shift into cerebral and hormonal maturity.

Everything feels more salient and the world revolves around you. No one understands you, no one listens to you, no one cares about you....blah blah blah. Don't worry, you'll grow out of it soon.

TO enlighten us, what decisions, pray tell, are your parents taking from you?
i know the world doesn't revolve around me. i have friends that listen and understand me, and i know i'll grow out of it i just need a little help getting through it a bit more positively and not angst, angst, angst, angst. oh and to the last thing, i'd like to keep at least an ounce of dignity and not give away that kind of information, if that's alright.
 

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dcomproductions said:
dietpeachsnapple said:
While I may think that we underestimate the intelligence and resilience of our youth to learn from their mistakes, I also think you aren't doing yourself any favors by misspelling "decisions."
so i can't spell, that doesn't mean i'm any less mature than an adult.
I didn't say that you were less mature.

Please refrain from taking 'extra' meaning from very precisely worded statements.

You might have noticed that I prefaced my commentary with an agreement with your stance. You have ignored, however, the importance of presentation in winning the support of an audience.
 

dcomproductions

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fluffybacon said:
dcomproductions said:
fluffybacon said:
dcomproductions said:
fluffybacon said:
dcomproductions said:
it feels like my parents don't think of me as another human being, but that i'm but a toy to them, to be molded into what they want. i can make my own decisions and just because i'm not 18 doesn't make me less of a human. i want to know if there are others this blinded.
EMO ALERT!

*DANGEROUS LEVELS OF ANGST BASED RADIATION AHEAD*

Baton the hatches! duck and cover! to the bunkers!​
actually, my parents are the least of my troubles and am pissed at the world YOU PRICK.
[sub]Good thing I ducked and covered[/sub]

My advice to you:

Calm down and grow up. You're ignorant, young, and stupid.

Your parents know best.
your doing what most older people do to me, judge me. they think because my parents don't treat me as an equal that i'm immature "ignorant, young, and stupid". most of the time, they are right and have let me learn what's best but now it just feels like they're exercising authority just because they can. i won't go into details but no matter how old i get in their eyes i'm 5.
It is human nature to judge people. When you see someone walking down the street, you from a concept of what type of person they are based on the way they look, act, ect.

I don't care if you parent's are "mean". The world doesn't care.

P.S. Do yourself a favor and calm down.
funny how you tell me to calm down yet you continue to anger, ironic isn't it. you're right about how no one cares, i just want to see how simple minded people. i'm having trouble figuring out if you're simple mind or not.
 

Randomosity

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dcomproductions said:
Randomosity said:
dcomproductions said:
fluffybacon said:
dcomproductions said:
it feels like my parents don't think of me as another human being, but that i'm but a toy to them, to be molded into what they want. i can make my own decisions and just because i'm not 18 doesn't make me less of a human. i want to know if there are others this blinded.
EMO ALERT!

*DANGEROUS LEVELS OF ANGST BASED RADIATION AHEAD*

Baton the hatches! duck and cover! to the bunkers!​
actually, my parents are the least of my troubles and am pissed at the world YOU PRICK.
i'm sorry but this right here proves you immaturity. the fact that as soon as some one makes a comment you dont like you get irate and start calling names proves that you still need to grow up which is why you get treated the way you do

now then about your question it really depends on the kid from what i have seen from you i would say no but if they prove they can be mature then yes they should get to make their own decisions
funny how if i get angry at someone that makes me immature and not capable of making decisions. i guess that when kids get mad, they're immature, but when adults do it, they become right. so you've never been offended by something so much that you start verbally abusing. and verbal abuse is the worst thing ever, right? i mean, i'm an immature kid so i need everything spoon fed to me. i guess i'll go shit myself and go sit in the corner now.
wow you completely took what i said out of context let me make it more clear for you

if you fly off the handle at the first sign of an insult you are immature.

now then adults can be immature too i know many that are but getting pissed at every asshole in the world because they look at you funny or say something that offends you doesn't help you cause now does it and so far from what i have seen you are just another kid who thinks you are not getting a fair deal in the world but you know what life isnt fair and as soon as you move out and you parents stop making decisions for you the rest of the world will because you and 95% of the world will never be on top and have to obey the top

ok now that i have said that i can say this to you. deal with it and move on because no one cares
 

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Children under 14 should have all decision making made for them by responsible adults. With children older than 14 it's up to the adults to decide what decisions they can be trusted to make.

Most good decisions I made when I was under 22 were by accident. I'm still not hitting a great average. And yet I thought I was so mature as a kid.
 

dcomproductions

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dietpeachsnapple said:
dcomproductions said:
dietpeachsnapple said:
While I may think that we underestimate the intelligence and resilience of our youth to learn from their mistakes, I also think you aren't doing yourself any favors by misspelling "decisions."
so i can't spell, that doesn't mean i'm any less mature than an adult.
I didn't say that you were less mature.

Please refrain from taking 'extra' meaning from very precisely worded statements.

You might have noticed that I prefaced my commentary with an agreement with your stance. You have ignored, however, the importance of presentation in winning the support of an audience.
it's the way you phrased it that made me feel like you were like the others. thanks for being one of the few people that do feel kids aren't retarded.