Xan Krieger said:
Colour Scientist said:
BathorysGraveland2 said:
Edit: After reading through all the thread - wow, some people really blow smoking way the fuck out of proportion.
Yeah, some people get really high and mighty about smoking.
I have no problem with people disliking it, it's the smugness I can't stand.
I used to know a guy who, on more than one occasion, would come out
into the smoking area where I was smoking away from everyone else, yank my fag out of my hand/mouth, throw it on the ground and look at me like "you're
so welcome."
Can you imagine if I did that to a chubby person in a fast food place?
I'd get punched and rightly so.
I don't know, some of the language people use when describing people who smoke seems a little unnecessary.
like say for example
Qwurty2.0 said:
While smoking used to be romanticized and seen as a sign of maturity, I tend to see it as a sign of weakness and lack of willpower.
However, it depends on their age. If they are from older generations then I don't think much of them; it was part of their culture and they're just sort of "victims" of lack of information, though I shake my head at people who deny the cons or make little effort to at least try to stop.
If you are younger (no real specific age, maybe mid-twenties to 30?) and you smoke, I can't help but lose a decent chunk of respect for them and think they are incredibly stupid. There is absolutely no benefit from smoking, and the health benefits have been around long enough that anyone who is that young and smoking is basically stupid enough to be saying "Look at me, I'm causing permanent damage to my body, weeeeeeee!".
So to get that out of the way, if you are a very infrequent or social smoker I'm not really bothered by it, but otherwise it repulses me. :/
who called many of us incredibly stupid. We don't call those who don't smoke anything nasty, so for them to start it is completely unjustified.
I apologize if you are offended, as I did not intend to offend.

I was simply trying to explain my thoughts on young people who choose to smoke. I have a live-and-let-live policy: you have every right to make whatever choices you make, and honestly, I'm not bothered by other's choices and won't attack them for them. I expect the same in return.
But I hold the right to judge someone based on their decisions, just like you have a right to judge me based on my decisions. I don't know how old you are, as your age factors heavily into what I think of someone and their smoking habits, but if you are a young smoker, it
is a stupid decision. :/ I understand that many people start because of peer pressure, but I have only seen one person below the age of 25 who smokes, and she didn't seem to be a chain smoker or anything.
The cons of smoking are well documented, and society has done a commendable job of trying to prevent the younger generations from falling into the same holes that the older generations did when it comes to getting addicted to tobacco. "Smoking is bad" is hammered into your head at a young age.
With that said, I don't go around crusading and attacking people who smoke. If I see someone smoke, I think "Wow, that's stupid", and move on. My mom and dad smoke, most of my mom's friends smoke, most of my friends older than their mid twenties smoke. All of them, if asked, will say that they regret it and to not start smoking tobacco. I see the effects on the ones who are my parents age (late thirties to fifties), and it's not good. Not "quarantine them to stop the spread of this plague" bad, but their skin has aged a decade, their teeth are permanently discolored, they frequently cough, and their borderline slaves to their addiction (they become incredibly uncomfortable and irritated if they go more than a few hours without a smoke).
I don't mind what decisions you make as long as they don't negatively effect me (don't smoke in my vicinity, second-hand smoke and all), but that doesn't mean I don't have opinions on those who make bad lifestyle choices. This will sound condescending as fuck, but you don't call non-smokers anything "nasty" because we haven't done anything apparently worth being judged nasty, while smoking is to be discouraged (the cigarette is bad, not the person, but the person should understand it's bad).
Colour Scientist said:
anthony87 said:
Colour Scientist said:
I used to know a guy who, on more than one occasion, would come out into the smoking area where I was smoking away from everyone else, yank my fag out of my hand/mouth, throw it on the ground and look at me like "you're so welcome."
I really hope you kicked him.
Hard
That's such a shithead thing to do.
I just kind of laughed it off, I didn't really know what else to do.
React any other way and you just tend to validate people's "petulant smoker" perceptions.
I hope you at least told him to stop or don't hang out with him anymore.

That level of aggression is uncalled for. I might not like smoking but attacking you like that is even worse. You have a right to make your own decisions.