Poll: do you think smoking is attractive?

[BobDavis]

Absolutely not. If a girl is really attractive, but she smokes, then it's a total turn off. I don't want to smell tobacco all the time or get lung cancer because of passive smoking.

 

[otakon17]

Honestly I find it one of the most disgusting personal habits a person can have. And I grew up in a family of smokers for the most part, I HATE smoking.

 

[PromethianSpark]

It seems to me that smokers are the new people ok to hate

 

[Buckets]

Eeek no way, the smell is vile and the ash tray breath could curdle milk, combine that with the smell of food/alcohol and it smells like vomit.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

If you're a smoker, I don't want to be within ten feet of you.

If you're smoking, I don't want to be within a hundred.

I reckon you'll be safe from all the evil smoke way up there on that high horse of yours.

Or maybe I find the smell of cigarette smoke utterly repulsive and don't want to be anywhere near it.

But carry on with your snide insults, by all means.

 

[Xan Krieger]

Edit: After reading through all the thread - wow, some people really blow smoking way the fuck out of proportion.

Yeah, some people get really high and mighty about smoking.
I have no problem with people disliking it, it's the smugness I can't stand.

I used to know a guy who, on more than one occasion, would come out into the smoking area where I was smoking away from everyone else, yank my fag out of my hand/mouth, throw it on the ground and look at me like "you're so welcome."

Can you imagine if I did that to a chubby person in a fast food place?
I'd get punched and rightly so.

I don't know, some of the language people use when describing people who smoke seems a little unnecessary.

like say for example

While smoking used to be romanticized and seen as a sign of maturity, I tend to see it as a sign of weakness and lack of willpower.

However, it depends on their age. If they are from older generations then I don't think much of them; it was part of their culture and they're just sort of "victims" of lack of information, though I shake my head at people who deny the cons or make little effort to at least try to stop.

If you are younger (no real specific age, maybe mid-twenties to 30?) and you smoke, I can't help but lose a decent chunk of respect for them and think they are incredibly stupid. There is absolutely no benefit from smoking, and the health benefits have been around long enough that anyone who is that young and smoking is basically stupid enough to be saying "Look at me, I'm causing permanent damage to my body, weeeeeeee!".

So to get that out of the way, if you are a very infrequent or social smoker I'm not really bothered by it, but otherwise it repulses me. :/

who called many of us incredibly stupid. We don't call those who don't smoke anything nasty, so for them to start it is completely unjustified.

I apologize if you are offended, as I did not intend to offend. I was simply trying to explain my thoughts on young people who choose to smoke. I have a live-and-let-live policy: you have every right to make whatever choices you make, and honestly, I'm not bothered by other's choices and won't attack them for them. I expect the same in return.

But I hold the right to judge someone based on their decisions, just like you have a right to judge me based on my decisions. I don't know how old you are, as your age factors heavily into what I think of someone and their smoking habits, but if you are a young smoker, it is a stupid decision. :/ I understand that many people start because of peer pressure, but I have only seen one person below the age of 25 who smokes, and she didn't seem to be a chain smoker or anything.

The cons of smoking are well documented, and society has done a commendable job of trying to prevent the younger generations from falling into the same holes that the older generations did when it comes to getting addicted to tobacco. "Smoking is bad" is hammered into your head at a young age.

With that said, I don't go around crusading and attacking people who smoke. If I see someone smoke, I think "Wow, that's stupid", and move on. My mom and dad smoke, most of my mom's friends smoke, most of my friends older than their mid twenties smoke. All of them, if asked, will say that they regret it and to not start smoking tobacco. I see the effects on the ones who are my parents age (late thirties to fifties), and it's not good. Not "quarantine them to stop the spread of this plague" bad, but their skin has aged a decade, their teeth are permanently discolored, they frequently cough, and their borderline slaves to their addiction (they become incredibly uncomfortable and irritated if they go more than a few hours without a smoke).

I don't mind what decisions you make as long as they don't negatively effect me (don't smoke in my vicinity, second-hand smoke and all), but that doesn't mean I don't have opinions on those who make bad lifestyle choices. This will sound condescending as fuck, but you don't call non-smokers anything "nasty" because we haven't done anything apparently worth being judged nasty, while smoking is to be discouraged (the cigarette is bad, not the person, but the person should understand it's bad).

I used to know a guy who, on more than one occasion, would come out into the smoking area where I was smoking away from everyone else, yank my fag out of my hand/mouth, throw it on the ground and look at me like "you're so welcome."

I really hope you kicked him. Hard

That's such a shithead thing to do.

I just kind of laughed it off, I didn't really know what else to do.

React any other way and you just tend to validate people's "petulant smoker" perceptions.

I hope you at least told him to stop or don't hang out with him anymore. That level of aggression is uncalled for. I might not like smoking but attacking you like that is even worse. You have a right to make your own decisions.

Here's the thing, while it is hammered into our heads at a young age that smoking, drinking, and other things are bad for us the simple fact is we're never given any viable alternatives to help reduce the stress in our lives. Nothing really prepares us for what a pain in the ass being an adult is so we turn to things to help us handle the stress. I smoke once or twice a day and occasionally drink to cope with stress. Plenty of my friends also smoke or drink for the same reason. I think we figure we're making a trade, lose some physical health in exchange for better mental health. It's not that we're stupid, it's that life after high school is hard as hell.

 

[PromethianSpark]

Or maybe I find the smell of cigarette smoke utterly repulsive and don't want to be anywhere near it.

I find it interesting that people in the past didn't complain about people smoking, and now people get quite venomous in their hate, which is directed as much to the smoker as it is to the habbit.

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

After the thread about the woman suing the tobacco company I thought id make this thread

There are a number of reasons why smoking is unattractive. Its smells, its an addiction and its unhealthy. Do you really want a potential partner to die early on you

I say this as a smoker. I know its not a nice habit but what do you guys think? Would it put you off someone just because they smoked?

As a 25 year smoker, I always swore I'd never date a woman who didn't smoke. My theory being that I had no intention of quitting, and it would be unfair to drag someone who didn't smoke along for the ride.

Of course all of that changed when e-cigs came along and altered the game. I switched to one of those over a year ago, around the time that I started dating a woman who never smoked (and she's a nurse too). Never say "never".

 

[PromethianSpark]

As a 25 year smoker, I always swore I'd never date a woman who didn't smoke. My theory being that I had no intention of quitting, and it would be unfair to drag someone who didn't smoke along for the ride.

Of course all of that changed when e-cigs came along and altered the game. I switched to one of those over a year ago, around the time that I started dating a woman who never smoked (and she's a nurse too). Never say "never".

Glad you on an e-cig, but that sounded like some serious self-smoker hate. I mean people have enough self esteem issues as it is, and you where gonna hate yourself for being addicted to something.

 

[Random Argument Man]

I smoke from time to time. What's worst, for attractiveness, than smoking are people who have an extreme anti-smoking attitude. It's mostly because no one likes somebody who's too preachy.

 

[babinro]

I can't even stand around a smoker.
The smell and the fumes are disgusting to me.

The results of this poll are not even remotely surprising...but it would be fascinating to see this same poll held every 10 years going backwards. Even just going back 20 years you'd probably have this poll at 50/50 yes to no ratio.

 

[PromethianSpark]

I can't even stand around a smoker.
The smell and the fumes are disgusting to me.

The results of this poll are not even remotely surprising...but it would be fascinating to see this same poll held every 10 years going backwards. Even just going back 20 years you'd probably have this poll at 50/50 yes to no ratio.

That's because the campaign to end smoking centers around demonizing the smoker...

 

[otakon17]

It seems to me that smokers are the new people ok to hate

I don't hate smokers, I just find the act of smoking disgusting. Plus the things are designed to be addictive.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

I will not date a smoker. I have very few "Non-negotiable" things for relationships but that is one of them.

For one, I have asthma so I really can't be around smokers without having trouble breathing. Dying puts a downer on our relationship...

For two, smokers smell. Seriously smokers, I know you don't think you smell. I know you febreezed the shit out of your clothing after taking just one puff on a cigarette so it totally doesn't smell! It does smell.

For three, it's (obviously) really bad for you.

Smoke'm if you got'em; it's your body, you do whatever you want. It's not like you're a bad person for smoking or anything like that but there's no way in hell I'm dating a smoker.

completely agree, as a nonsmoker the smell is gag levels bad for how long it lingers especially if the wind/breeze is dragging it through your face. I know plenty of smokers who shower daily and try to wear cologne and such, but the smell of smoking is so fucking potent it is the difference of night and day to someone who doesn't smoke.

Also, the littering is pretty bad too, I can't tell you how many places I go to and just see it litterredddddddddddddddd with buds lying all over. Not cool.

All that said, I have plenty of friends who smoke, it's your body and such, and as a friend i won't judge you either way for smoking or not.

but for dating? hell no, all I can imagine is kissing a half filled ash tray everytime I see a girl smoke, instant turn off.

 

[Qwurty2.0]

** My fat-ass snip **

Here's the thing, while it is hammered into our heads at a young age that smoking, drinking, and other things are bad for us the simple fact is we're never given any viable alternatives to help reduce the stress in our lives. Nothing really prepares us for what a pain in the ass being an adult is so we turn to things to help us handle the stress. I smoke once or twice a day and occasionally drink to cope with stress. Plenty of my friends also smoke or drink for the same reason. I think we figure we're making a trade, lose some physical health in exchange for better mental health. It's not that we're stupid, it's that life after high school is hard as hell.

I understand, I'm not trying to demonize casual smokers, just trying to explain that I disapprove of chain smokers. I'ma 20 year old college student who uses alcohol frequently to drown my pain from some childhood experiences. I accept that I might be overdoing it, I don't like when people pretend that there's nothing wrong with something they do. I see many smokers act like there is nothing wrong with smoking, just like many alcoholics refuse to accept that they are damaging themselves for a brief period of happiness.

But this is getting morbid, so apologies?

 

[Xan Krieger]

** My fat-ass snip **

Here's the thing, while it is hammered into our heads at a young age that smoking, drinking, and other things are bad for us the simple fact is we're never given any viable alternatives to help reduce the stress in our lives. Nothing really prepares us for what a pain in the ass being an adult is so we turn to things to help us handle the stress. I smoke once or twice a day and occasionally drink to cope with stress. Plenty of my friends also smoke or drink for the same reason. I think we figure we're making a trade, lose some physical health in exchange for better mental health. It's not that we're stupid, it's that life after high school is hard as hell.

I understand, I'm not trying to demonize casual smokers, just trying to explain that I disapprove of chain smokers. I'ma 20 year old college student who uses alcohol frequently to drown my pain from some childhood experiences. I accept that I might be overdoing it, I don't like when people pretend that there's nothing wrong with something they do. I see many smokers act like there is nothing wrong with smoking, just like many alcoholics refuse to accept that they are damaging themselves for a brief period of happiness.

But this is getting morbid, so apologies?

I'm 24 and like you I also have plenty of childhood trauma to get over, I don't know what happened to you but if it's anything like mine you still have nightmares and flashbacks about it. I accept that I'm damaging myself, however given how I smoke once or twice a day I figure my lungs are still cleaner than those of someone who lives in a major city. That said I've seen the horrors of chain smoking and will never let myself go to even 3 cigarettes a day. Now with all that out of the way let us raise our glasses in the hopes that life will get better.

 

[jklinders]

Or maybe I find the smell of cigarette smoke utterly repulsive and don't want to be anywhere near it.

I find it interesting that people in the past didn't complain about people smoking, and now people get quite venomous in their hate, which is directed as much to the smoker as it is to the habbit.

Does it matter if people complained about the smell before or not? I'm not trying to be snarky here, I am just wondering what the purpose of that comment is. I can't stand the smell of cut grass. A lot of people like it. Before my allergies developed, I loved that smell. I associate it with bad things because it triggers my hay fever like few things can. If you associate a smell with bad things, you will typically dislike the smell.

We also don't know how little or much people in the past complained about it. There is also the chance that modern cigs are viler due to the mass production processes used to bring them to market these days.

I can walk into a room with a lot of people drinking heavily and not get drunk, I can't walk into a room full of people puffing away and not be smoking. Some of non smoker's complaints about the smell are thoroughly justified.

 

[Eddie the head]

Edit: After reading through all the thread - wow, some people really blow smoking way the fuck out of proportion.

Not really. It's not up to you to decide what people dislike and how much they dislike it.

It seems to me that smokers are the new people ok to hate

"The new people it's ok to hate." You forgot "it's." Also everyone is a victim in there own personal narrative.

Glad you on an e-cig, but that sounded like some serious self-smoker hate. I mean people have enough self esteem issues as it is, and you where gonna hate yourself for being addicted to something.

Self esteem is a gauge it should go down when you do something that's bad for you. And it should go up when you do something that's good for you. Artificially inflating it is one of the worse things you can do for yourself. A bloated self esteem leads to narcissism. Low self esteem doesn't cause harm, most of the time it's a reflection of harm. (ignoring the atypical)

So the guy feels bad about doing something that's bad because he knows it's bad. Good that's healthy. Denying it's a problem is the unhealthy thing to do. And I'm not even saying the guy needs to "fix" this, but it's good to recognize it. And in this case I mean recognize it's a problem for other people.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Nope. In fact I'm currently building myself a catapult to fire the used butts and empty fag packets dropped on my potplants back onto the balcony of the inconsiderate fuck who lives above me.

I find it interesting that people in the past didn't complain about people smoking, and now people get quite venomous in their hate, which is directed as much to the smoker as it is to the habbit.

Two words: Passive Smoking.