Poll: DOOM made new again.

[ImmortalDrifter]

The news of a doom IV greatly excited me. Simple as that. But with that being said, i truly hope hope it goes back to the "rampage" style of shooter. DOOM 3 was good, I enjoyed playing it but the confined environment, with limited weapons, and pathetically weak horror elements prevented it from being as fun as it could be. While i am perfectly aware some people find minimal plot and maximum violence childish, or even stupid, i don't think this is the case.

Arguments for and against are welcome, as are any other way DOOM could be fundamentally improved.

DOOM isn't dead, its just sleeping.

 

[Zer_]

The news of a doom IV greatly excited me. Simple as that. But with that being said, i truly hope hope it goes back to the "rampage" style of shooter. DOOM 3 was good, I enjoyed playing it but the confined environment, with limited weapons, and pathetically weak horror elements prevented it from being as fun as it could be. While i am perfectly aware some people find minimal plot and maximum violence childish, or even stupid, i don't think this is the case.

Arguments for and against are welcome, as are any other way DOOM could be fundamentally improved.

DOOM isn't dead, its just sleeping.

I like rampage shooters, I agree with you there. I don't agree with the dislike of Doom 3. I found the claustrophobic spaces to be quite unnerving, and the early horror elements were good. It turned into more of a rampage shooter at times even.

Doom 3's story was actually very well executed. You could ignore the story and blast through the game. Or you can take the time to read all the e-mails, and listen to all the audio logs. I didn't mind the flashlight at all. If you needed to find a door code or something form an audio log, the log entry or e-mail was usually labeled as such (easy to find).

 

[Trivun]

I've personally never found shooters where you just run around shootiung stuff randomly to be any good at all. I like a challenge, I like games where you have to use tactics and skill to play. That's why I like Halo and Gears of War, because in those games run'and'gun only works on the lowest difficulty levels and if you want to play the game on a decent difficulty setting, you need to think, and you need to actually have some skill at the game to actually win. That's my thoughts, anyway, and I'd be happy to argue to point with anyone who disagrees.

 

[MasterOfWorlds]

I grew up playing the original DOOM games, so I'd like to see another one just for the throwback value. Not saying it would be as good now as it was back then, but that's simply because I'm not five anymore. Like I tell my friends, a good story and such is really awesome, but sometimes, you just need to kill things. Like in L4D and Nazi Zombies. Borderlands is good too.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

The news of a doom IV greatly excited me. Simple as that. But with that being said, i truly hope hope it goes back to the "rampage" style of shooter. DOOM 3 was good, I enjoyed playing it but the confined environment, with limited weapons, and pathetically weak horror elements prevented it from being as fun as it could be. While i am perfectly aware some people find minimal plot and maximum violence childish, or even stupid, i don't think this is the case.

Arguments for and against are welcome, as are any other way DOOM could be fundamentally improved.

DOOM isn't dead, its just sleeping.

I like rampage shooters, I agree with you there. I don't agree with the dislike of Doom 3. I found the claustrophobic spaces to be quite unnerving, and the early horror elements were good. It turned into more of a rampage shooter at times even.

Doom 3's story was actually very well executed. You could ignore the story and blast through the game. Or you can take the time to read all the e-mails, and listen to all the audio logs.

It just felt at some points like it was hemorrhaging plot, i didn't mind the story to be honest, but it felt unneeded. Like they threw it on just to say they had it, like reloading, who needs it? hahaha

 

[Verlander]

I've personally never found shooters where you just run around shootiung stuff randomly to be any good at all. I like a challenge, I like games where you have to use tactics and skill to play. That's why I like Halo and Gears of War, because in those games run'and'gun only works on the lowest difficulty levels and if you want to play the game on a decent difficulty setting, you need to think, and you need to actually have some skill at the game to actually win. That's my thoughts, anyway, and I'd be happy to argue to point with anyone who disagrees.

I agree with both you and the OP. I think that rampage shooters ARE fun, and also that shooting games are improved by increased in game tactical ability. I think that a title like Doom could really take a lead in this type of shooter, if they worked out a more challenging system that still kept the kitschy gore and horror elements. Tactical doesn't necessarily mean hyper realistic, like CoD As for big explosions and endless body counts, games like Unreal Tournament still work great to this day

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

I grew up playing the original DOOM games, so I'd like to see another one just for the throwback value. Not saying it would be as good now as it was back then, but that's simply because I'm not five anymore. Like I tell my friends, a good story and such is really awesome, but sometimes, you just need to kill things. Like in L4D and Nazi Zombies. Borderlands is good too.

That in fact is exactly what I'm saying, not every game needs to be heedless violence, but some of them would be nice

 

[deleted_by_strongbad]

The thing I didn't like about Doom 3 was that it still felt like I was playing the first doom mechanically, and atmospherically a generic shooter. It lacked all the control and flexibility of the more advanced mechanics of shooters that were coming out at the same time and didn't bring anything else to the table.

If they were to make a Doom 4 it would have to feel like I am moving a character around shooting at things, not hovering some gun above the ground arbitrarily, flailing about in stiff arcs trying to aim at things. Those controls were great for the first 2 because that sort of experience was so new it wasn't hard to make you feel like you were walking down a hall shooting demons, but now that we have gotten better experiences with the feel of movement that old crap just doesn't cut it and it is fake nostalgia, it captures the mechanics but not the experience.

I don't think they need to do much with "horror" elements, it was a game of murdering endless masses of abominations, and I'm ok with sticking with that dynamic. In fact, I would worry that if they worked too hard on "horror" elements it'll be largely indistinguishable from other "horror" space shooters like dead space. Also, I'm tired of shooters in space ships/stations, can we go the route of the original Doom and make it on a planet so it isn't just all endless steel hallways? I don't buy that dynamic half the time when it is on a space ship, who's gonna design like that it'd have terrible issues with maintaining temps because bare steel is the opposite of insulation, it'd probably drive someone crazy with the lack of round edges and soft surfaces, I don't know, if it isn't just a beautified doom1/2 in a generic setting then I'm all for it, otherwise RIP Doom.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

I'm going to need a link before I get my hopes up for another DOOM.

I'd be ready to accept a game like that; the whole "I'm a one-man army!" feeling is awesome when done right. Tons of health, tons of weapons, awesome enemies -- and DOOM fit the description.

 

[ImmortalDrifter]

I'm going to need a link before I get my hopes up for another DOOM.

I'd be ready to accept a game like that; the whole "I'm a one-man army!" feeling is awesome when done right. Tons of health, tons of weapons, awesome enemies -- and DOOM fit the description.

Link here http://pc.ign.com/articles/872/872097p1.html

 

[PlasmaFrog]

It will most likely be similar to Doom 3, a bit of storyline here and there and detailed environments.

 

[individual11]

I hope it goes back to the original DooM style of gameplay; when DooM 3 forgot its heritage and began channelling System Shock, it set a precedent for the FPS genre as a whole.

Anyone else gone back and replayed the original DooMs multiple times while DooM 3 and the expansion sits looking sad and lonely on the shelf-of-no-return?

 

[L4Y Duke]

Rampage shooters make for great co-op games.

So, yeah. They're fun.

 

[RobCoxxy]

I'd be fine with a version of the old Doom that worked on Windows 7 64-bit, kthnxbai.

 

[veloper]

Those are the most entertaining type of shooter by far.

Play Painkiller or Serious Sam HD. IF you can't have fun with those, you don't like shooters.

 

[Zhukov]

Sure, it could be okay.

However, other games have done it better by now. I very much doubt a new Doom could match Serious Sam or Bulletstorm.

 

[Tharwen]

I'd be fine with a version of the old Doom that worked on Windows 7 64-bit, kthnxbai.

The version off Steam works perfectly on my PC using DOSbox.

 

[Trolldor]

The news of a doom IV greatly excited me. Simple as that. But with that being said, i truly hope hope it goes back to the "rampage" style of shooter. DOOM 3 was good, I enjoyed playing it but the confined environment, with limited weapons, and pathetically weak horror elements prevented it from being as fun as it could be. While i am perfectly aware some people find minimal plot and maximum violence childish, or even stupid, i don't think this is the case.

Arguments for and against are welcome, as are any other way DOOM could be fundamentally improved.

DOOM isn't dead, its just sleeping.

Doom could work as a horror if they damn well did it properly.
The 'rampage shooter' wouldn't be so horrible so long as there was more on offer than what the original Doom had.

Just shooting things for four hours isn't going to be all that fun.

 

[RobCoxxy]

I'd be fine with a version of the old Doom that worked on Windows 7 64-bit, kthnxbai.

The version off Steam works perfectly on my PC using DOSbox.

Hm! Interesting
Last time I played it with that though, I got the weird "safemode-style colours" :/ and no sound.... but worth looking into.

After all.
Doom was the first game I ever played.
Aged 5.
Explains a lot.

 

[Baron von Blitztank]

Rampage shooters are fun but they need something to help the combat feel more varied.
Something like the Skillshots in Bulletstorm or Black Tarot in Painkiller or even Nightmare! mode in Doom where the enemies kept spawning every 5 seconds.