I find it very easy to read subs whilst concentrating on the action, so for me there is no contest -- subs all the way, rather than dubs which are ALWAYS a load of shite.
Poll: Dubbed or Subbed?
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I'll normally watch dubbed the first time i start watching a new anime, but normally, since i often watch them on youtube some dub episodes are missing and ill have to watch them subbed. If the subs are any good i sometimes switch, or if a particular actor annoys me. I read really quickly so i sometimes prefer the subs, helps me remember names better.
Sometimes an english voice actor just kills my ears, e.g. Haruhi Suzumiya's english v.a. (im sorry, i know she's pretty popular) or just doesn't work for me, like Johnny Yong Bosch as Ichigo in bleach. Although he was damn good in Code geass.
Sometimes an english voice actor just kills my ears, e.g. Haruhi Suzumiya's english v.a. (im sorry, i know she's pretty popular) or just doesn't work for me, like Johnny Yong Bosch as Ichigo in bleach. Although he was damn good in Code geass.
Oh my god definitely subbed. I don't know what it is but pretty much every English dub of everything I've ever seen in a foreign language sounded horrible and forced.
It's the American isn't it? And even if it isn't, the 'American' definite contributes to the dislike, dunnit?ReservoirAngel said:
No disrespect to Americans, it's just the English perception of a 'neutral' accent.
I don't really mind. If the dubbed hasn't got annoying voices, i'l watch it dubbed. If not, then subbed and if its only subbed then i'm fine with that.
First paragraph - so what? Does that mean they are 'supposed to be' in English then? Well, the Matrix should be in Chinese, or Japanese then.AyreonMaiden said:
Second Paragraph - sure, we can't speak for the author, but its logical and fair to assume that voices they chose, and probably spent some time and energy choosing and auditioning for, are the ones they wanted. And you have taken what I said about cultural far too literally. There is cultural reflection in every single thing produced by a culture, even if they are 'just telling a story'. You read far too much into that statement.
Third paragraph - so what? Good for him. As you already stated, you can't speak for the author, and that comment is being used for promotion. If he'd said he was unhappy, it wouldn't be good. And I'm pretty sure that there is much that is no longer present in the story now that it is no longer in his voice and in his language.
In the end, as you said, we should watch what we enjoy, and that's what I do. I don't enjoy third party dubs. I love to listen to foreign languages. I prefer to experience a product in its original form or as close to it as possible. If you don't, then that's you and your value system. This thread is, after all, asking for our personal opinions.
I don't want to hear the voices of people who were not involved in the original and have been called upon perhaps years later to overdub. For me, it's not about what's a better or more 'location suitable' track, because for me, what's better is exactly what the artists did, and nothing more or less. If some dubber does the performance of the century, well that's great. I sure hope he or she can do that again on some original project.
For me, good, bad, warts and all, and original voices, score, music, etc, is exactly the total of what I want to experience, and it is the only reason I sought to experience it in the first place.
The weirdest dubbing I ever saw was when they dubbed over Totoro's yawns with bear growls in the latest dubbing of My Neighbor Totoro. It was so unnecessary.
Depends.
If it's something like spanish, english, russian or some other langauge that doesn't sound shit or even good in my ears, I'd rather have it subbed. Unless there's an increadibly good dub.
If it's some langauge that makes me want to shove my fist down the character's throat, like japanese, I'd rather have it dubbed.
I don't know why asian langauges make me so violent..
If it's something like spanish, english, russian or some other langauge that doesn't sound shit or even good in my ears, I'd rather have it subbed. Unless there's an increadibly good dub.
If it's some langauge that makes me want to shove my fist down the character's throat, like japanese, I'd rather have it dubbed.
I don't know why asian langauges make me so violent..
since english is a second language, i prefer dubbed version, or i would have to watch about 80% of the movies in a foreing language. The dubbed we produce are usually very high quality, and the actors who do them are usually very competant in what they do
Good points. It just sounded like it's so much more of a "duty to the artist, his art and the culture of the country" when people put it that way. Maybe I'm just too removed from the whole idea of "art, culture, language and the 'integrities' of such things" because my first loyalty is to the story and the characters and not necessarily the exact words and linguistic components with which the story was conveyed. I've talked about this at length with a friend of mine who's a serious Japanophile and he made it sound like it was almost something you owed to the makers or something, which I just can't agree with because I just can't see serious artists caring about something that apparently isn't that big of a deal (As I tried to show with Garcia Marquez, though it IS a localized example. The point of that was to show that no, there's no 'right' way to enjoy anything, only 'right for you.')UberNoodle said:
All this is odd thinking coming from someone who wants to be an interpreter, but then again, business and storytelling are two different things...
Miscommunication and misunderstanding on my behalf.
dubbed if the VA's doing the job are decent subbed if not
far to often companies pic the absolute worst people to voice characters
the person who did Usopp during the 4kids run of pone piece was god fucking awful
far to often companies pic the absolute worst people to voice characters
the person who did Usopp during the 4kids run of pone piece was god fucking awful
I like both, and it really depends per series which one is best.
Evangelion English dub is brilliant for instance!
Unforgivable is when they start censoring stuff; grrrr!
Evangelion English dub is brilliant for instance!
Unforgivable is when they start censoring stuff; grrrr!
Subbed.
I have come to understand that a lot of english-speaking people have yet to come out of that stage of relative illiteracy where they are unable to pay attention to both the movie and the subtitles. You know, that stage that people from the rest of the world leave by the time they have learned how to actually read.
Not that this is exclusive to those people. Quite many germans, italians, spaniards, japanese and loads of others seem to have this problem as well...
But it is my opinion that the further you get from the original product, the more gets lost in transition, and thus, I'm as a rule against dubbing, in anime, and other media.
I have come to understand that a lot of english-speaking people have yet to come out of that stage of relative illiteracy where they are unable to pay attention to both the movie and the subtitles. You know, that stage that people from the rest of the world leave by the time they have learned how to actually read.
Not that this is exclusive to those people. Quite many germans, italians, spaniards, japanese and loads of others seem to have this problem as well...
But it is my opinion that the further you get from the original product, the more gets lost in transition, and thus, I'm as a rule against dubbing, in anime, and other media.
With very rare exceptions, Subbed. Too much is lost in translation much of the time, and I understand enough Japanese to get a feel for some of what is missing that way. I'd love RAW, but sadly, I'm not THAT competent with the language, only have a few years of college courses, and...that's not enough to get by without the subtitles.
Dubbed. I'll have to be slapped exceptionally hard by the nerd-stick before you could convince me to read a show.
I've found that only watching well-dubbed anime (I liked yu yu Hakusho for its overall dub quality and Duel Masters because it was a ridiculous parody) gives me a lot of free time for other things and forces me to be picky about what I watch.
The only anime I've watched subbed and enjoyed was the one about a college anime club. Anybody remember what that was called?
I've found that only watching well-dubbed anime (I liked yu yu Hakusho for its overall dub quality and Duel Masters because it was a ridiculous parody) gives me a lot of free time for other things and forces me to be picky about what I watch.
The only anime I've watched subbed and enjoyed was the one about a college anime club. Anybody remember what that was called?