Wait. Eggman is/was the official Japanese name? Why did they change it? For 3D? Fair enough. I still prefer Robotnik, but whatever.
Eggman and Robotnik are the same person. His name is Dr. Ivo Robotnik. There's no story about his father, however his grandfather Dr. Gerald Robotnik, created Shadow and the eclipse cannon which is a weapon capable of blowing up Earth. He was executed when the government found out about the project and his granddaughter Maria was killed during the assault on his space station, the ARK. Maria was Robotnik's (Eggman's) cousin I assume because he never actually knew about her until Sonic Adventure 2 when he reads his grandfather's diary.Xyphon said:I thought Eggman was Robotniks son? >_>
Seeing as there's no evidence of the name "Ivo" in any of the games, I choose to accept Eggman as his given name.canadamus_prime said:I believe his full name is Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik. I think he just donned the name 'Eggman' as a kind of villainous alias.JediMB said:Dr. Eggman Robotnik
Because SA2 and Sonic X established both names as equally canonical, and Robotnik is clearly a last name.
Also Princess Peach Toadstool.
No no no! Kintobor and Robotnik are completely different people!Mad Maniac with axe-firing chainsaw said:I'm going to be different. Dr Kintobor. Robotnik's real name. Sonic fans or idle followers will know where the seemingly stupidly cheesy Robotnik came from. For others?... work it out... psst, read Robotnik backwards!
It depends on the source. I think some sources have Kintobor and Robotnik down as different characters and others have him them down as the same guy. Kintobor is always the nice incarnation anyway, he only gets the Robotnik alias if/when he goes evil.Wargamer said:No no no! Kintobor and Robotnik are completely different people!Mad Maniac with axe-firing chainsaw said:I'm going to be different. Dr Kintobor. Robotnik's real name. Sonic fans or idle followers will know where the seemingly stupidly cheesy Robotnik came from. For others?... work it out... psst, read Robotnik backwards!
Kintobor was skinny, wimpy but ultimately a really, really nice bloke.
Robotnik... well, see every Sonic game, TV show, comic book, etc.
And for those who love the paradoxi of temporal weirdness... anyone remember when the Metallix Emperor took over the Miracle Planet, then went back in time and took over Mobius? Love to know how they did that as Kintobor was around in the "Underground", yet without Kintobor becoming Robotnik the Metallix couldn't exist at all...
Doug said:Odd, must have been after I stopped reading the Sonic Comics after I was 7, I remember him looking like this:HardRockSamurai said:But personally, I've always infinitely preferred Robotnik and the Western drawings of the guy:
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Much more believable and threatening seeming, to me at least. A much better envisionment of the guy that the more comical look of the Japanese original.
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and the aging fo him:
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Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?Evil Jak said:The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Oh, I know that round has more than one definition and more than one application... However, I showed YOU the definition of EGG and it stated a clear difference between ROUND eggs and OVAL eggs!Eldritch Warlord said:Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?Evil Jak said:The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Wiktionary [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round#Adjective]
Dictionary.com [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round]
Merriam-Webster Online [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%5B1%5D]
AskOxford.com [http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/round?view=uk]
The Free Dictionary by Farlex [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/round]
Each of those has multiple definitions of round, and all have at least one which applies to eggs.
These definitions of round and oval are for lamens terms (as most people think of circles when round is mentioned), the literal, mathmatical and geometirical definition of round can include eggs, your original argument was that eggman cannot be called round. We have all proven time and time again that he can. All the other stuff you have thrown in is pointless and outside the elements of your original claim.Evil Jak said:Oh, I know that round has more than one definition and more than one application... However, I showed YOU the definition of EGG and it stated a clear difference between ROUND eggs and OVAL eggs!Eldritch Warlord said:Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?Evil Jak said:The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Wiktionary [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round#Adjective]
Dictionary.com [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round]
Merriam-Webster Online [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%5B1%5D]
AskOxford.com [http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/round?view=uk]
The Free Dictionary by Farlex [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/round]
Each of those has multiple definitions of round, and all have at least one which applies to eggs.
His physical shape is attributed to the Oval egg... by its very definition that is NOT an round EGG! What you are attempting to do is change the definition of the word now, which is quite absurd.Jirlond said:These definitions of round and oval are for lamens terms (as most people think of circles when round is mentioned), the literal, mathmatical and geometirical definition of round can include eggs, your original argument was that eggman cannot be called round. We have all proven time and time again that he can. All the other stuff you have thrown in is pointless and outside the elements of your original claim.Evil Jak said:Oh, I know that round has more than one definition and more than one application... However, I showed YOU the definition of EGG and it stated a clear difference between ROUND eggs and OVAL eggs!Eldritch Warlord said:Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?Evil Jak said:The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Wiktionary [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round#Adjective]
Dictionary.com [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round]
Merriam-Webster Online [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%5B1%5D]
AskOxford.com [http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/round?view=uk]
The Free Dictionary by Farlex [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/round]
Each of those has multiple definitions of round, and all have at least one which applies to eggs.
Ovals are round objects by definition too. I didnt change the definition of anything. I simply argued that eggs are round. You quite clearly dont understand that there is a criteria to class an object as round and eggs meet those criteria.Evil Jak said:His physical shape is attributed to the Oval egg... by its very definition that is NOT an round EGG! What you are attempting to do is change the definition of the word now, which is quite absurd.Jirlond said:These definitions of round and oval are for lamens terms (as most people think of circles when round is mentioned), the literal, mathmatical and geometirical definition of round can include eggs, your original argument was that eggman cannot be called round. We have all proven time and time again that he can. All the other stuff you have thrown in is pointless and outside the elements of your original claim.Evil Jak said:Oh, I know that round has more than one definition and more than one application... However, I showed YOU the definition of EGG and it stated a clear difference between ROUND eggs and OVAL eggs!Eldritch Warlord said:Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?Evil Jak said:The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Wiktionary [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round#Adjective]
Dictionary.com [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round]
Merriam-Webster Online [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%5B1%5D]
AskOxford.com [http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/round?view=uk]
The Free Dictionary by Farlex [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/round]
Each of those has multiple definitions of round, and all have at least one which applies to eggs.
As I have said, the difference is stated by its definition and supported by Stephen Fry.