Poll: Eggman or Robotnik?

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ShoryukenDude

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Wait. Eggman is/was the official Japanese name? Why did they change it? For 3D? Fair enough. I still prefer Robotnik, but whatever.
 

MangaVally

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I agree with the majority of posts, Robotnik just sounds some much more sinister and dangerous than "Eggman"
The fact the Sonic Called him Eggman in SA1 as a way to make fun of him was a good way to add the old Japanese name in but I wish they hadn't changed it totally
 

UltimatheChosen

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Robotnik. Eggman sounds fucking retarded, and whoever decided to import the name to America should be shot with a hammer.
 

ProfessorLayton

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Dr. Robotnik is much more badass than Eggman. According to my friend who's a HUGE Sonic fan, they're different people. But I still say the Robotnik is way cooler than Eggman.
 

chromewarriorXIII

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I thought Eggman was Robotniks son? >_>
Eggman and Robotnik are the same person. His name is Dr. Ivo Robotnik. There's no story about his father, however his grandfather Dr. Gerald Robotnik, created Shadow and the eclipse cannon which is a weapon capable of blowing up Earth. He was executed when the government found out about the project and his granddaughter Maria was killed during the assault on his space station, the ARK. Maria was Robotnik's (Eggman's) cousin I assume because he never actually knew about her until Sonic Adventure 2 when he reads his grandfather's diary.

Yes I like Sonic... a lot.

OT: I prefer Robotnik since, it's his family name and it just sounds a lot more menacing.
 

JediMB

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JediMB said:
Dr. Eggman Robotnik

Because SA2 and Sonic X established both names as equally canonical, and Robotnik is clearly a last name.

Also Princess Peach Toadstool.
I believe his full name is Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik. I think he just donned the name 'Eggman' as a kind of villainous alias.
Seeing as there's no evidence of the name "Ivo" in any of the games, I choose to accept Eggman as his given name.

After all, it's not unusual for people to have given names that describe their physical attributes in Sonic's world. Just look at Sonic, Knuckles and Big, for starters.
 
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I'm going to be different. Dr Kintobor. Robotnik's real name. Sonic fans or idle followers will know where the seemingly stupidly cheesy Robotnik came from. For others?... work it out... psst, read Robotnik backwards!

Robotnik for me. Sure, it sounds cheesy, but so does Eggman, and for the poor hapless residents of Mobius, which sounds more formidable, Eggman, the robot building egg-head, or Robotnik, the scientist gone mad who takes bad children and turns them into robots doomed to serve for eternity in steel? (or until Sonic gets round to freeing them) Eggman sounds like a bumbling villain. Robotnik you can write a story around, and is at least possible to make sound forbidding, in a mad supervillainish kind of way.
 

Wargamer

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Robotnik. Always, always Robotnik.

Mainly because of Sonic The Comic - that thing was godly for those who wanted Sonic-based awesomeness.
 

Wargamer

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Mad Maniac with axe-firing chainsaw said:
I'm going to be different. Dr Kintobor. Robotnik's real name. Sonic fans or idle followers will know where the seemingly stupidly cheesy Robotnik came from. For others?... work it out... psst, read Robotnik backwards!
No no no! Kintobor and Robotnik are completely different people!

Kintobor was skinny, wimpy but ultimately a really, really nice bloke.

Robotnik... well, see every Sonic game, TV show, comic book, etc.

And for those who love the paradoxi of temporal weirdness... anyone remember when the Metallix Emperor took over the Miracle Planet, then went back in time and took over Mobius? Love to know how they did that as Kintobor was around in the "Underground", yet without Kintobor becoming Robotnik the Metallix couldn't exist at all...
 

Baradiel

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It has always been Eggman. Well, it was on the Megadrive, and since they were the some of the first Sonic games (that I know of), it is Eggman.

EDIT: Ignore Sonic X and the like, which is just another way to exploit a popular subject, where they made up and changed soooo much about the Sonic background. Shame on anyone who calls them self a Sonic fan and pays attention to that drivel.
 
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Wargamer said:
Mad Maniac with axe-firing chainsaw said:
I'm going to be different. Dr Kintobor. Robotnik's real name. Sonic fans or idle followers will know where the seemingly stupidly cheesy Robotnik came from. For others?... work it out... psst, read Robotnik backwards!
No no no! Kintobor and Robotnik are completely different people!

Kintobor was skinny, wimpy but ultimately a really, really nice bloke.

Robotnik... well, see every Sonic game, TV show, comic book, etc.

And for those who love the paradoxi of temporal weirdness... anyone remember when the Metallix Emperor took over the Miracle Planet, then went back in time and took over Mobius? Love to know how they did that as Kintobor was around in the "Underground", yet without Kintobor becoming Robotnik the Metallix couldn't exist at all...
It depends on the source. I think some sources have Kintobor and Robotnik down as different characters and others have him them down as the same guy. Kintobor is always the nice incarnation anyway, he only gets the Robotnik alias if/when he goes evil.

Jeez, the Sonic universe is a seriously confused place!
 

Dirty Saint

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This thread brings back memories of the Sonic cartoons I watched during the 90's.
The more lighthearted inspired version was okay, but specifically meant for children.

Now the other one, though, that was awesome. Dr Robotnik was EVIL AS SHIT in that cartoon. If I remember right, he had no problem asking for a gun so he could shoot someone HIMSELF. They made him him out to be damn near the devil in that version.
 

Ziadaine_v1legacy

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Doug said:
HardRockSamurai said:
But personally, I've always infinitely preferred Robotnik and the Western drawings of the guy:

Much more believable and threatening seeming, to me at least. A much better envisionment of the guy that the more comical look of the Japanese original.
Odd, must have been after I stopped reading the Sonic Comics after I was 7, I remember him looking like this:

and the aging fo him:
 

Eldritch Warlord

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Evil Jak said:
The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?

Wiktionary [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round#Adjective]
Dictionary.com [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round]
Merriam-Webster Online [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%5B1%5D]
AskOxford.com [http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/round?view=uk]
The Free Dictionary by Farlex [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/round]

Each of those has multiple definitions of round, and all have at least one which applies to eggs.
 

Kinguendo

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Eldritch Warlord said:
Evil Jak said:
The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?

Wiktionary [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round#Adjective]
Dictionary.com [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round]
Merriam-Webster Online [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%5B1%5D]
AskOxford.com [http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/round?view=uk]
The Free Dictionary by Farlex [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/round]

Each of those has multiple definitions of round, and all have at least one which applies to eggs.
Oh, I know that round has more than one definition and more than one application... However, I showed YOU the definition of EGG and it stated a clear difference between ROUND eggs and OVAL eggs!
 

Jirlond

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Evil Jak said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Evil Jak said:
The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?

Wiktionary [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round#Adjective]
Dictionary.com [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round]
Merriam-Webster Online [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%5B1%5D]
AskOxford.com [http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/round?view=uk]
The Free Dictionary by Farlex [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/round]

Each of those has multiple definitions of round, and all have at least one which applies to eggs.
Oh, I know that round has more than one definition and more than one application... However, I showed YOU the definition of EGG and it stated a clear difference between ROUND eggs and OVAL eggs!
These definitions of round and oval are for lamens terms (as most people think of circles when round is mentioned), the literal, mathmatical and geometirical definition of round can include eggs, your original argument was that eggman cannot be called round. We have all proven time and time again that he can. All the other stuff you have thrown in is pointless and outside the elements of your original claim.
 

Kinguendo

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Jirlond said:
Evil Jak said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Evil Jak said:
The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?

Wiktionary [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round#Adjective]
Dictionary.com [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round]
Merriam-Webster Online [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%5B1%5D]
AskOxford.com [http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/round?view=uk]
The Free Dictionary by Farlex [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/round]

Each of those has multiple definitions of round, and all have at least one which applies to eggs.
Oh, I know that round has more than one definition and more than one application... However, I showed YOU the definition of EGG and it stated a clear difference between ROUND eggs and OVAL eggs!
These definitions of round and oval are for lamens terms (as most people think of circles when round is mentioned), the literal, mathmatical and geometirical definition of round can include eggs, your original argument was that eggman cannot be called round. We have all proven time and time again that he can. All the other stuff you have thrown in is pointless and outside the elements of your original claim.
His physical shape is attributed to the Oval egg... by its very definition that is NOT an round EGG! What you are attempting to do is change the definition of the word now, which is quite absurd.

As I have said, the difference is stated by its definition and supported by Stephen Fry.
 

Spudgun Man

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Eggman was just a stupid name, it will remain Robotnic in my mind til my dying day.

Just like 'Miles' will stay Tails.
 

Jirlond

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Evil Jak said:
Jirlond said:
Evil Jak said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Evil Jak said:
The defintion says "round OR oval", a difference between the two clear enough to need seperate mention in its definition. As I said, there are round spherical eggs and there are rounded oval eggs. Eggmans shape is that of an oval egg and so he is not the round egg as stated in the definition, he is physically attributed to the oval one!
Will nothing convince you that round has more than one definition?

Wiktionary [http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/round#Adjective]
Dictionary.com [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/round]
Merriam-Webster Online [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/round%5B1%5D]
AskOxford.com [http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/round?view=uk]
The Free Dictionary by Farlex [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/round]

Each of those has multiple definitions of round, and all have at least one which applies to eggs.
Oh, I know that round has more than one definition and more than one application... However, I showed YOU the definition of EGG and it stated a clear difference between ROUND eggs and OVAL eggs!
These definitions of round and oval are for lamens terms (as most people think of circles when round is mentioned), the literal, mathmatical and geometirical definition of round can include eggs, your original argument was that eggman cannot be called round. We have all proven time and time again that he can. All the other stuff you have thrown in is pointless and outside the elements of your original claim.
His physical shape is attributed to the Oval egg... by its very definition that is NOT an round EGG! What you are attempting to do is change the definition of the word now, which is quite absurd.

As I have said, the difference is stated by its definition and supported by Stephen Fry.
Ovals are round objects by definition too. I didnt change the definition of anything. I simply argued that eggs are round. You quite clearly dont understand that there is a criteria to class an object as round and eggs meet those criteria.