Poll: Election 2008
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This.TomNook post=18.74021.819022 said:
Then you should leave. Canada is only a few miles away.Fud post=18.74021.819005 said:
In all honesty, 90% of the people who express this view are the jaded sons and daughters of liberal "intellectuals." Why don't you ask some first or second generation immigrants why they left, and what they think of America?
I would love to hear why you're "not really proud" of America.
Right, and people thought JFK would do the Pope's bidding if he was elected. I expect that Palin, just like every other politician, will put her country and the interests of the American people first. Needless to say, among those interests are avoiding Nuclear apocalypse. The attacks on her religion are totally unnecessary.Limos post=18.74021.819793 said:
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Obama, on the other hand, scares me:
-extremely liberal voting record
-history of past associations with extremists (Rev. Wright, anyone?)
-will be working with an extremely liberal legislative
-may get up to 5 judge picks, and with the legislative backing him, we may get "liberal" interpreters of our constitution, that will uphold all sorts of bullshit.
McCain is the candidate closest to the center. I'm hardly a Republican: its just McCain is probably the best nominee that the GOP will give me, and the democrats could have given me much, much better than Obama (i.e. Clinton).
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Right, how is he a "retard-o-matic?"Hunde Des Krieg post=18.74021.819354 said:
Or are we just going to wildly throw a statement out and expect people to accept it? Here, let me try: Barack Obama eats babies. That was fun.
More GOP bullshit?
The GOP hates McCain. He is the enemy of ultraconservatives everywhere. If you take a listen to Rush in the afternoon, or Glenn Beck, you'll find that the only reason these people show ANY support to McCain is because he's not as liberal as Obama.
Like I said before, the GOP is not going to give you a better candidate, if you disagree with their policies. McCain has a history of bipartisan effort and compromising GOP values in order to get shit done. He has a history of challenging his own party.
The assertion that McCain is Bush term three is as faulty as the assertion that Obama is a Muslim.
ORLY? About what?
Hey, lets call a POW out because he didn't escape from North Vietnam.
I'd like to see you repeat this statement to any POW you meet. And tape their reaction.
That's like saying the Jews don't deserve our sympathy because they didn't try to escape Auschwitz.
Go fuck yourself.
White guilt is bullshit.qbert4ever post=18.74021.819423 said:
News flash: Slavery ended 200 years ago. You may no longer use it as an excuse for social inequalities.
Non-American, Obama, on principal;
Republicans represent everything the rest of the world truly hates about America, and it seems that Palin wants to drag us back into the dark ages with some of the views she's expressed.
The rest of the world doesn't need the gun-toting, fundamentalist, conservative, oil-guzzling and war-loving American stereotype, and I can't understand the distaste for Liberalism displayed by Americans.
Obama, despite his grossly exaggerated and smeared background, is a big step in the right direction.
I'll start with the fact that you're destroying any hopes of long, lasting peace in the Middle East, however.
Republicans represent everything the rest of the world truly hates about America, and it seems that Palin wants to drag us back into the dark ages with some of the views she's expressed.
The rest of the world doesn't need the gun-toting, fundamentalist, conservative, oil-guzzling and war-loving American stereotype, and I can't understand the distaste for Liberalism displayed by Americans.
Obama, despite his grossly exaggerated and smeared background, is a big step in the right direction.
Hell, I could give you a nice long essay on why I would hate to be an American in this modern day.Uszi post=18.74021.820295 said:
I'll start with the fact that you're destroying any hopes of long, lasting peace in the Middle East, however.
I would say short of racial cleansing leaving one ethic group in the Region, we're actually the best hope for peace in the Middle East.Qayin post=18.74021.820308 said:
Do some research on America and Afghanistan: last time we gave them money, trained them to fight, and didn't help them build any infrastructure, we got the Taliban.
I would not say that we should expand our current policies beyond Afghanistan and Iraq, but I would not say they are wrong, and I do think the result will leave the region better off than it was before.
And I guess I should specify that I was asking someone who claimed to be American why they were not proud to be an American. I really don't give two shits why the rest of the world would not be proud to be an American.
Bolded the important stuff, and would like to add that you fail at spotting humor.Uszi post=18.74021.820295 said:
As far as your question as to why an American is ashamed of their country
works, along with the fact that our education system is so far down the shitter that you can cram 12 years of school into 3-6 months of GED classes and still get into college. Not to mention the fact that, if we stop pretending for a moment that most Americans vote based on the candidate's veiws, do you not think that it speaks wonders about our voting system when McKinney, who is a black woman does not get the amount of press that Clinton or Obama did or still do? Plus when you Google Presidential Candidates, half of the websites don't even mention any of the third party runners? And then there's that whole 10 trillion dollar debt thing going on.Qayin said:
It's great that you love your country, I do too. But to pretend that we haven't been in the "fuck-up" zone for a while now and are still sliding downhill is to ignore a very large elephant in the room/turd on the table/800 pound gorilla.
Although we do make wonderful pie.
Uszi post=18.74021.820295 said:
ummm isn't Palin a hardcore fundamentalist too? that's right she IS one
let's see what else she does
- no rape kits for women, even in cases of incest
- no sex ed for kids that's right abstinence only education for kids and she even shows how well it works with a pregnant unwed teenage daughter
- her foreign relations experience is she can see Russia from the coast
- she has committed several crimes and will possibly be indicted
- she can't even name a paper she reads on a daily basis
- the ONLY supreme court decision she can name is Roe vs Wade
no he's not, his speech at the convention was EXACTLY the same as Bush's was, the Daily Show had a great bit on it
he is just like Bush, so get ready for even more debt and a depression for your country, he's very conservative now, so that means even more free market AND more war too
cept the fact that he is spouting the same rhetoric that Bush is and has given speeches that are eerily similar to Bush and has a lot of the same policies as Bush
don't forget McCain was the one who helped get the free market with no over sight, so that means he helped cause the recession you're in now
do believe it's been given the nickname of troopergate
to paraphrase you
why don't you go tell that to some black ppl living in the south in the 1950s and before, it's like telling a Jew that Auschwitz never happened