Poll: Empire or Stormcloak?
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Oh I know the Dunmer are not the Dominion but like I said they are still consider "elves" (Due to the name Dark Elves). Just saying that they are still outsiders and the Nords (Not all Stormcloaks but some) just don't like them and don't trust them. Since as well as they are not picking a side (Which they shouldn't have to in my opinion) but what can you expect from a warrior-like nation.teebeeohh said:
Plus, I think the best way to help get rid of the Nords racist remarks is to actually show that outsiders can help them (If you play as a non-nord). Heck that one guy who insults you in the city of windhelm you can beat the shit out of and he does sort of respect you.
Though just to say I don't mind the Empire, it just I don't like how things are turning out with them and the Dominion. The soldiers and the people might not like them but politics are totally different.
And also the Emperor is dead in my play through thanks to the Dark Brotherhood. So who knows will be taking over.
The way this thread has continued and ended in such a debate really goes to show how well formed Bethesda made this situation.
I think that after 5 years of release date it's safe to say that? Or are we supposed to be silenced forever about things?Murais said:
It's like saying that noone can say that Sephiroth is defeated
(besides, why have you not yet completed Oblivion? It's a cakewalk. A rather short cakewalk at that.)
I noticed there was something going on when I first realized I could click away on the blue and red flags on those maps all these folks have laid out on their tables. My being a part of the Viking uprising was part random, part because I really dislike the Roman Empire looks and approach of the Imperials. After a bit that felt like being thrown into MW3 in a medieval fantasy setting, I found out that my Viking brothers are quite a bit selfish, ignorant and just as full of it like the next best man.TypeSD said:
Good thing I am a chaotic neutral rogue, so I have little issues not completing a quest if I feel it's not the right thing to do for me. Clutters up my automated to-do list, though.
[sub]Note: Fireballs are more fun than bows & arrows. Enter the rogue Archmage![/sub]
Sorry haven't picked a side, I haven't had a chance to play all week, so I keep thinking about what I'd do in Skyrim, I keep changing sides in my mind. Currently Empire at the moment.binnsyboy said:
hehe, I like your thinking. The reason Why I joined The Stormcloacks is mainly because of the Empire becoming like dogs for the Thalmor.... even the Talmor embasador came to my small reunion for a peace Treaty... good thing I drove her out lawls. Besides that, I recall that in Oblivion you help remake the knights of the 9 as you for the General... somthing that those... bastards Empire decree on banishing its religion and demolish all shrines that are connected to Talos... all the hard work you went as a pilgrimage just to see it in ruins... and besides that... Ulfric was rather suprised and happy at the same time when he saw me near his throne. When I spoke to him *im Argonian* he told me * Hail my friend, it is good to see you back from Helgen!And so on until he asked me to join his cause. He may be *bad* but he has charisma! And besides that lol er... back when I 1st started my game I saw a bunch of Thalmor dragging a Talos woreshiper... they interogated me and they asked if I pray for Talos. I answered yes and they suddenly atk me * sons of Bs *RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Stormcloaks or Empire...to me its just a usual day at the office; humans killing humans.
As an Argonian I just stay away from both, thieves guild all the way.
As an Argonian I just stay away from both, thieves guild all the way.
This is the hardest damn choice in a game ever.
Both sides have so many negatives to take into account... it's a tough one indeed
Both sides have so many negatives to take into account... it's a tough one indeed
Empire!! Sure, they tried to execute me, but it was the Machiavellian thing to do! A successful ruler must not tolerate insurrection! Death to the elf-hating rebels!
For everyone who's saying that the empire are total Thalmor tools, and the Stormcloaks are not? Go kill some stormcloak commanders in their camps on an Empire character. You find missives that show that the Stormcloaks are being heavily supplied by the Thalmor. Yeah. - They made a deal with the devil. Plus, there's a dossier showing that Ulfric was deliberately set up to start a rebellion in the first place in the Thalmor embassy. Both sides are Thalmor tools, so you can't join Stormcloaks for that reason - but at least the Empire it least upfront about having it forced through their teeth, while Stormcloaks are made a deal with their worst enemy to cause a rebellion that their worst enemy wanted and acted as if they're the only truly just ones.
Ah the cosmopolitan imperialists, or the racist ethnic-nationalists?
As an orc, sided with the stormcloaks and won skyrim for them.
As a Nord swordswoman, really tempted to side with the imperials, done some quests related to them, but find their self-confidence, superiority and exceptionalism so damn annoying. Find it hard to join the imperial tyranny of Roman fanboys. Also can't really respect the empire since the Thalmor have so much influence over them. Why follow a vassal of another power? The stormcloaks at least are attempting self mastery, although are a bit obsessed with death and sacrifice, the damn terrorists.
There are two other factions though guys:
3) independent, never get involved in this dispute, a friend chose this. Maybe your enemy is really the liches and damn the rest.
4) criminal. Go absolute bandit, turn on both sides, kill as many of them as you can, any couriers, any patrols. My Nord swordswoman is going closest towards this. I've maraudered both sides in the wild. You are all fair game lads.
As an orc, sided with the stormcloaks and won skyrim for them.
As a Nord swordswoman, really tempted to side with the imperials, done some quests related to them, but find their self-confidence, superiority and exceptionalism so damn annoying. Find it hard to join the imperial tyranny of Roman fanboys. Also can't really respect the empire since the Thalmor have so much influence over them. Why follow a vassal of another power? The stormcloaks at least are attempting self mastery, although are a bit obsessed with death and sacrifice, the damn terrorists.
There are two other factions though guys:
3) independent, never get involved in this dispute, a friend chose this. Maybe your enemy is really the liches and damn the rest.
4) criminal. Go absolute bandit, turn on both sides, kill as many of them as you can, any couriers, any patrols. My Nord swordswoman is going closest towards this. I've maraudered both sides in the wild. You are all fair game lads.
Didn't really have a computer that could run it until now. I just downloaded it on Steam this past week when it was on sale, and I was checking the forums in between sessions, then KER-BAM!Ruwrak said:I think that after 5 years of release date it's safe to say that? Or are we supposed to be silenced forever about things?Murais said:
It's like saying that noone can say that Sephiroth is defeated
(besides, why have you not yet completed Oblivion? It's a cakewalk. A rather short cakewalk at that.)
And that's a different kind of spoiler. Telling me the villain is going to be defeated is something that I take as a given in most games. If I were playing Mass Effect, and you told me that Saren gets defeated, that's one thing.
But if you tell me
That I have to choose whether I kill Wrex or not for his beliefs
In my first playthrough, I joined the Stormcloaks mainly because of how the Imperial soldiers tried to chop my head off, the moment I was freed, I thought to the Imperial Legion; "You'll get yours."
But I was turned off later on when I learned how the Stormcloaks were somewhat racist toward the Dunmer and Khajiit, but changed my mind when I learned about the Thalmor, who were ten times worst when it came to being racist, and how they're allies with the Empire. I think you can guess the rest.
I hope there will be Skyrim DLC that involves killing the entire Thalmor government and handing the territory over to either the Empire or the Stormcloaks.
But I was turned off later on when I learned how the Stormcloaks were somewhat racist toward the Dunmer and Khajiit, but changed my mind when I learned about the Thalmor, who were ten times worst when it came to being racist, and how they're allies with the Empire. I think you can guess the rest.
I hope there will be Skyrim DLC that involves killing the entire Thalmor government and handing the territory over to either the Empire or the Stormcloaks.
I was halfway writing a decent post, then I realised that this is the internet.Murais said:
You expect me to be a psycic or something? You can't tell me that you never -ever- heard -anything- about Oblivion and plot twists the past few years. I'm not psycic and I most certainly can't take in mind that someone on this planet has not yet completed Oblivion by this time.
You gotta understand man. Surely you do, you sound like a sensible chap. Oh and no. No I don't dig. I only dig in Minecraft, or in my yard.
Well I WAS going to go Stormcloak my first time through, but then I actually played the game and realized how horrible their position is. Seriously, for one they're douche bags to anyone who isn't a Nord, they're barely organized at all, and Ulfric can barely seem to keep Windhelm in one piece, how is he gonna rule an entire country? I'm going Empire, they know how to keep their shit together.
I haven't chosen a side yet. I will choose the imperials because...well, the Stormcloaks come across as some form of murderous cult to me. All the supporters come across as weirdos who can do nothing but praise Ulfric and Ulfric himself wants to kill everyone who doesn't support him even if they don't support the Empire (Whiterun, yeah those guys that are so nice to you right at the start, hell if my loyalties don't go to Jarl Baalgruuf over any of the other pretentious or self obsessed jarls around.)
I'm on the imperials side because, Hadvar doesn't push joining the army on you whereas Ralaf does. All the locals who support the empire are normal people, all the stormcloak supporters are crazy or seem hypnotised and in the end, the empire are actually good for Skyrim whereas if Ulfric becomes high king a huge war between the empire and the stormcloaks will get worse with all the thalmar and dominion jumping in. Also what's to say a tyrannical freak like Ulfric won't get the smart idea that taking over the whole of Tamriel and outlawing magic, elves and breton because they're for wimps. Yeah not a fan of the guy
I'm on the imperials side because, Hadvar doesn't push joining the army on you whereas Ralaf does. All the locals who support the empire are normal people, all the stormcloak supporters are crazy or seem hypnotised and in the end, the empire are actually good for Skyrim whereas if Ulfric becomes high king a huge war between the empire and the stormcloaks will get worse with all the thalmar and dominion jumping in. Also what's to say a tyrannical freak like Ulfric won't get the smart idea that taking over the whole of Tamriel and outlawing magic, elves and breton because they're for wimps. Yeah not a fan of the guy
>incoherent Stormcloaks think racism is their only problem
typical simple minded Nords. Couldn't run a fucking Breton whorehouse let alone an entire continent. Compare Windhelm to Solitude. Solitude is clean, law abiding and full of nice citizens, and punishes those who break the law. Windhelm couldn't care less for the law. It's overrun with poverty and crime, probably smells like shit and incredibly filthy. This is the town that Ulfric runs, the power hungry dipshit nord who could care little for Skyrim or its inhabitants and only wants power
>not playing Imperial master race
typical simple minded Nords. Couldn't run a fucking Breton whorehouse let alone an entire continent. Compare Windhelm to Solitude. Solitude is clean, law abiding and full of nice citizens, and punishes those who break the law. Windhelm couldn't care less for the law. It's overrun with poverty and crime, probably smells like shit and incredibly filthy. This is the town that Ulfric runs, the power hungry dipshit nord who could care little for Skyrim or its inhabitants and only wants power
>not playing Imperial master race