Poll: Ezio vs. Batman

[Dr. Pepper Unlimited]

Batman wins because he's THE GODDAMN BATMAN!

My sentiments exactly. He's Batman! He wins at everything by default.

 

[Toasty Virus]

Well, if you sent Batman back in time, without any of his stuff, I bet within like a day he'll have built a era correct Batsuit with gadgets and everything.

I mean I love Ezio, but it's just a hands down batman win.

 

[Zannah]

Part of me is inclined to say, I'd much rather host a contest to find out who's better in bed

Batman's condoms aren't made from animal intestine....

...just sayin'.

Thanks for reminding me that I don't need those, now I'm depressed again >.<

 

[Orcus The Ultimate]

I was thinking, Batman and Ezio use very unique detective skills, stealth maneuvers, and skill to stalk enemies. So if you put Batman/Bruce Wayne Vs. Ezio Auditore da Firenze in multiple situations. Lets say we take away B-mans gadgets and put him in some proper clothes for Ezio's time, then switch it up for Ezio, in Gotham. This is pure Parkour, Stealth action to see who'll get the drop on who. What say you folks?

how can you compare a guy from the XVI century, with a nowadays gadgety superhero ?!

 

[RedEyesBlackGamer]

This was never a contest.

 

[OmegaAlucard777]

Batman would win, hands down. However... I have come to believe that Ezio really is the Italian Batman... with loose morals of course.

 

[velcrokidneyz]

that previous comic said it best, batman for the fucking win. i like ezio and all but its batman.

 

[Zannah]

Now the real question is, would Bruce Wayne be able to stand against

Spoiler: Chinese flying batman

 

[Numb1lp]

Batman is just a total boss. No way a punk assassin could beat him.

 

[DevilWolf47]

Take away Batman's gadgets and give someone who is willing to kill armaments and high explosives and you'll get some interesting issues. Admittedly the free-flow style of Arkham Asylum has me convinced Batman might be the better fighter and could hold his own, but if he doesn't have his gadgets his teeth are gone. Ezio on the other hand naturally possesses Eagle Vision, is much more athletically graceful and can get to a roof WITHOUT a grappling hook, and would have no qualms about giving the Joker a hidden blade face fuck.

I have to go with Ezio because his natural talents and resourcefulness make him more effective than a gadgetless Batman.

 

[DustyDrB]

I think Ezio would charm Batman's pants off...literally.

 

[Johnnyallstar]

Many people are talking about removing batman's gadgets making him worthless, but let us not forget what Batman's original nick-name was... the World's Greatest Detective.

Sure Ezio might find Batman eventually, or by accident, but even without the gadgets, Bats would have Ezio's place, friends, and favorite places to take a dump found out in less time than Ezio could to even figure out WHAT the Batman is, let alone who, or where.

Both people get their information from people who know about the target, and in Italy, it would be much easier to find Ezio, than it would be the Batman in Gotham.

Spoiler: Why Ezio's guns are worse for Ezio than Batman

Spoiler: Batman curb stomps Superman... AS AN OLD ASS MAN

 

[DevilWolf47]

Take away Batman's gadgets and give someone who is willing to kill armaments and high explosives and you'll get some interesting issues. Admittedly the free-flow style of Arkham Asylum has me convinced Batman might be the better fighter and could hold his own, but if he doesn't have his gadgets his teeth are gone. Ezio on the other hand naturally possesses Eagle Vision, is much more athletically graceful and can get to a roof WITHOUT a grappling hook, and would have no qualms about giving the Joker a hidden blade face fuck.

I have to go with Ezio because his natural talents and resourcefulness make him more effective than a gadgetless Batman.

Actually batman has trained to perfect physical and mental condition. His gadgets only help him navigate the technological jungle that is Gotham city due to the advanced technology and magic in the DC universe. In a comic its shown that batman knows magical spells, but doesn't use them because "they are too unpredictable" while using the magic on a skeleton that is fighting superman. That is a very good reason, since it seems anyone can summon Etrigan, the DC devil, who tends to kill anyone who summons him. Batman also kills when its needed, and is a PERFECT marksman despite never training in firearms. Batman never misses in the comics.

Yeah yeah blah blah Marvel and DC heroes are all immaculate and all that. I'm basing my judgment on what i personally witnessed. It's been 20 years since i gave up on Batman comics so my only reliable view is based on the games and the last two movies. If Batman is capable of the same physical feats as Ezio, it wasn't implemented in Arkham Asylum and therefore I DON'T COUNT IT. Plus, he didn't look like he was trained to physical perfection when he was portrayed by Christian Bale and getting his ass chewed off by a dog. If he was trained to the absolute peak, you'd think he'd know to just aim for the muzzle and to turn off his fucking cowl visor before confronting The Joker.

 

[DevilWolf47]

Take away Batman's gadgets and give someone who is willing to kill armaments and high explosives and you'll get some interesting issues. Admittedly the free-flow style of Arkham Asylum has me convinced Batman might be the better fighter and could hold his own, but if he doesn't have his gadgets his teeth are gone. Ezio on the other hand naturally possesses Eagle Vision, is much more athletically graceful and can get to a roof WITHOUT a grappling hook, and would have no qualms about giving the Joker a hidden blade face fuck.

I have to go with Ezio because his natural talents and resourcefulness make him more effective than a gadgetless Batman.

Actually batman has trained to perfect physical and mental condition. His gadgets only help him navigate the technological jungle that is Gotham city due to the advanced technology and magic in the DC universe. In a comic its shown that batman knows magical spells, but doesn't use them because "they are too unpredictable" while using the magic on a skeleton that is fighting superman. That is a very good reason, since it seems anyone can summon Etrigan, the DC devil, who tends to kill anyone who summons him. Batman also kills when its needed, and is a PERFECT marksman despite never training in firearms. Batman never misses in the comics.

Yeah yeah blah blah Marvel and DC heroes are all immaculate and all that. I'm basing my judgment on what i personally witnessed. It's been 20 years since i gave up on Batman comics so my only reliable view is based on the games and the last two movies. If Batman is capable of the same physical feats as Ezio, it wasn't implemented in Arkham Asylum and therefore I DON'T COUNT IT. Plus, he didn't look like he was trained to physical perfection when he was portrayed by Christian Bale and getting his ass chewed off by a dog. If he was trained to the absolute peak, you'd think he'd know to just aim for the muzzle and to turn off his fucking cowl visor before confronting The Joker.

So you toss out the entire continuity of DC while using mostly non-canon movies and games? Written by dumb shits to make a quick buck off of the lowering bar of movie quality? The only show that was written into canon was Batman Beyond. If that's the case then i don't count Ezio's abilities because it wasn't implemented in Assassin's creed 1.

Movies and games are not canon. The comics are. If you don't count things that are the actual canon source material then why should anyone count the assassin creed games?

Do you have any idea how long the fucking comic book canon has been going on? Depending on what you consider canon, Batman either retired when he was forced to use a gun to defend himself while having heart trouble or he's dead. Or do you count Batman's resurrection being written by dumb shits trying to make a quick buck off of the bar of comic quality that has almost always been one mile below sea level? Should i base the statistics off of Bruce's son or the original?
I based my stats on the Batman: Arkham Asylum game which was mostly faithful to the Batman canon. The only real way we could have gotten a coherent argument out of such a competition would have been to base it on a Batman canon that hasn't been going on for roughly 80 years.

 

[DevilWolf47]

Take away Batman's gadgets and give someone who is willing to kill armaments and high explosives and you'll get some interesting issues. Admittedly the free-flow style of Arkham Asylum has me convinced Batman might be the better fighter and could hold his own, but if he doesn't have his gadgets his teeth are gone. Ezio on the other hand naturally possesses Eagle Vision, is much more athletically graceful and can get to a roof WITHOUT a grappling hook, and would have no qualms about giving the Joker a hidden blade face fuck.

I have to go with Ezio because his natural talents and resourcefulness make him more effective than a gadgetless Batman.

Actually batman has trained to perfect physical and mental condition. His gadgets only help him navigate the technological jungle that is Gotham city due to the advanced technology and magic in the DC universe. In a comic its shown that batman knows magical spells, but doesn't use them because "they are too unpredictable" while using the magic on a skeleton that is fighting superman. That is a very good reason, since it seems anyone can summon Etrigan, the DC devil, who tends to kill anyone who summons him. Batman also kills when its needed, and is a PERFECT marksman despite never training in firearms. Batman never misses in the comics.

Yeah yeah blah blah Marvel and DC heroes are all immaculate and all that. I'm basing my judgment on what i personally witnessed. It's been 20 years since i gave up on Batman comics so my only reliable view is based on the games and the last two movies. If Batman is capable of the same physical feats as Ezio, it wasn't implemented in Arkham Asylum and therefore I DON'T COUNT IT. Plus, he didn't look like he was trained to physical perfection when he was portrayed by Christian Bale and getting his ass chewed off by a dog. If he was trained to the absolute peak, you'd think he'd know to just aim for the muzzle and to turn off his fucking cowl visor before confronting The Joker.

So you toss out the entire continuity of DC while using mostly non-canon movies and games? Written by dumb shits to make a quick buck off of the lowering bar of movie quality? The only show that was written into canon was Batman Beyond. If that's the case then i don't count Ezio's abilities because it wasn't implemented in Assassin's creed 1.

Movies and games are not canon. The comics are. If you don't count things that are the actual canon source material then why should anyone count the assassin creed games?

Do you have any idea how long the fucking comic book canon has been going on? Depending on what you consider canon, Batman either retired when he was forced to use a gun to defend himself while having heart trouble or he's dead. Or do you count Batman's resurrection being written by dumb shits trying to make a quick buck off of the bar of comic quality that has almost always been one mile below sea level? Should i base the statistics off of Bruce's son or the original?
I based my stats on the Batman: Arkham Asylum game which was mostly faithful to the Batman canon. The only real way we could have gotten a coherent argument out of such a competition would have been to base it on a Batman canon that hasn't been going on for roughly 80 years.

That is due to the infinite worlds thing. I count pre-crisis and post-crisis to be canon. If it was pre-crisis batman, Ezio would die a bloody and hilarious death that was "accidental" like when batman strangled a giant using a lasso and a plane. If it was post crisis than Ezio would die a plain no-frills bloody death.

There are multiple batmans from different worlds, and only one Ezio.

Oh for fucks...
...that explains it.


This isn't a beat-em-up between Ezio and Batman. The question was who would do a better job in the other person's world? Would Batman be able to thrive in early 16th century Italy without his gadgets and can Ezio's skills let him survive in Batman's era?
I bet on Ezio because a lot of his skills are just that: Skills. Batman relies too heavily on his gadgets in my eyes and wouldn't do as well in a world where such gadgets are unavailable. Ezio just shows more natural skills in my eyes.

 

[Squidwogdog]

I'm with Ezio on this one. Eagle vision. End of

Batman has much more than an eagle. He has heat vision, night vision, etc. He would find Ezio pretty easily.

I'm gonna be the minority and say Ezio, for several reasons. For one, look at his body count: every target dead. Batman always lets clearly dangerous criminals with a reputation for escaping go to jail. Ezio only ever let one guy live, and he eventually remedied that after realizing how stupid that was.

If they were going at it assassination style, I'd still give it to Ezio. He's got eagle vision so he'd find batman no problem (also the bat costume is a dead giveaway).

The only real gray area is if it's a one-on-one fair fight. If it's fully equipped, then Ezio, he's got a plethora of concealed weapons, one of which is a gun. Fisticuffs, though, I'll give to batman since that's mostly what he does anyway.

Really what it comes down to is who's sponsoring this fight: DC or Ubisoft.

Look up. You also realize that batman HIDES right? Ezio can't stab what he can't see. You also have to bring into consideration of his suit. The batsuit is bulletproof, and a knife would be laughable. He fights the joker, whom uses guns, and still comes out on top.

I'm going to agree with Chris and duktapeman here and repeat, Eagle vision, it reveals everything. Even hiding spots (for assassins anyway), so yeah batman can't really hide

You sure? It may work in ancient times, but you don't know how it reacts to DC level tech. A knife and a primitive gun wont help you in the future times that makes our tech look like roman level tech. Even in supernatural ability, Ezio would be viewed as inferior in both Tech AND magic in the DC universe. Eagle vision isn't natural, its magic or "supernatural". If he tried to pull that against a DC character, he would be laughed right out of the universe by even the most basic magic users.

In that context, then yeah batman would win, I dont really read DC, more of a Marvel guy. I can only go on the info I got from Dark knight, which in my opinion is a cooler representation of the batman universe (even then I focused on the joker more), much darker. So in a christopher nolan batman universe, I would say ezio, still, its closer to the real world, and I think I said before about it depending on which universe they were in and that ezio is better off killing bruce wayne rather than batman

 

[Random berk]

Batman needs his gadgets to do parkour and all the chase stuff that Ezio can do naturally, or with 600 year old technology. In a chase, Ezio would win. In a fight, Batman is very tough, but so is Ezio, and is as skilled with all his blades as Batman is with his fists. He can also fight effectively with his bare hands. I enjoy killing guards with Ezio's unarmed skills when stabbing them gets too monotonous. Finally, as has been said by a good few others, Ezio is only at risk of getting a fist in the face and a night in an easily escaped prison. If Batman loses, he won't get a second chance.

Arkham Asylum is cursed, and is not a prison. Ezio will get sent to the regular prison, or even worse such as Stryker Island. Batman is trained to peak condition physically AND mentally. Hell, he is a genius to boot. He is Howard Hughes and Chuck Norris rolled into one. The gadgets are a symptom of Bruce's genius, not a cause. He is just as dangerous without gadgets as he is with gadgets.

I don't know about the prison, depending on the level of security Ezio may or may not get out easily. Ezio is also in peak mental and physical condition, if he wasn't then he couldn't sprint for extended periods of time, leap and climb like Chris Sharma, fight multiple opponents at once and assassinate a man from heights that would break the legs of an unconditioned civilian. He also has a great deal of cunning as a master assassin, and the mental fortitude that a professional killer requires to keep his sanity and stick to his cause. His weapons may be older than Batman's, but they are all clearly lethal, while many of Batman's weapons seem like they would be less practical in the real world. In hand to hand combat, Batman seems to be somewhat better, but odds are in a face to face fight, Ezio will use his sword, and an unarmed opponent can't just expect to defeat a highly skilled fencer. Admittedly, in a stealth kill situation, Batman has a huge advantage in most situations, since in poor light he'd be much harder to spot than Ezio, but in a sundrenched Renaissance city I doubt that would factor in a great deal. I wouldn't say Batman has no chance, but he sure as hell wouldn't have a guaranteed victory either.

This is why the Deadliest Warrior game should simply have been an engine with which you could compare two warriors of your own choosing, real or fictional, instead of the crappy arcade fighting game that it was.

Actually a lot of batman's enemies have swords. The same load out as Ezio but some are actually trained to a level HIGHER than Ezio. Look up Prometheus, Captain Stingaree, and the cavalier. Hell batman took on the second deadliest assassin in the world and still won (the first being death stroke). Hell, look up Felix Faust for magic ability. Batman has dealt with villians on higher calibers than Ezio in weaponry, AND magical ability just with fists. Sending Batman after Ezio is like sending Jango Fett against the guy from 300. Since batman traveled through time in multiple occasions, that gives Batman an insane advantage.

Maybe. I think the whole fight would be highly situational really. If Ezio could keep Batman in front of him then the sword would be too much of a threat for Batman to try and attack in close combat, because whatever a comic writer may say, in skilled hands a rapier is as precise as a scalpel and almost as fast as a bullet. If Batman used a ranged weapon when Ezio wasn't expecting it though, or remote controlled the Batmobile to run him over, then he would probably win. The fact is, both characters are deadly warriors, and neither can really be said to be flat-out better than the other. A fight between them would come down to whoever momentarily slipped up, or got in a lucky hit, or whatever else could happen.

As for the Jango Fett vs Leonidas thing, thats not a great comparison. Remember, Jango was killed by a guy simply blocking all his lasers til he was close enough to cut his head off. If the lasers were unable to penetrate the Spartan shield, then my money would be on Leonidas. The Spartans were the deadliest warriors of the ancient world for a reason, and that shield wasn't an insignificant part of their reputation.

 

[Random berk]

@Ultratwinkie For some reason I can't quote your post. You're probably right about Jango vs Leonidas so. As for Batman and Ezio, I'm just not convinced. I don't read Batman comics and have only seen the films and played Arkham Asylum, so in a real world fight I'd have to see it to believe Batman could win. Since this fight can only be fictional I'd say it would come down to whoever made the crossover. If DC made it Batman would win. If Ubisoft made it, Ezio would win, and I'd say either victory would be entirely plausible.

 

[Random berk]

Batman needs his gadgets to do parkour and all the chase stuff that Ezio can do naturally, or with 600 year old technology. In a chase, Ezio would win. In a fight, Batman is very tough, but so is Ezio, and is as skilled with all his blades as Batman is with his fists. He can also fight effectively with his bare hands. I enjoy killing guards with Ezio's unarmed skills when stabbing them gets too monotonous. Finally, as has been said by a good few others, Ezio is only at risk of getting a fist in the face and a night in an easily escaped prison. If Batman loses, he won't get a second chance.

Arkham Asylum is cursed, and is not a prison. Ezio will get sent to the regular prison, or even worse such as Stryker Island. Batman is trained to peak condition physically AND mentally. Hell, he is a genius to boot. He is Howard Hughes and Chuck Norris rolled into one. The gadgets are a symptom of Bruce's genius, not a cause. He is just as dangerous without gadgets as he is with gadgets.

I don't know about the prison, depending on the level of security Ezio may or may not get out easily. Ezio is also in peak mental and physical condition, if he wasn't then he couldn't sprint for extended periods of time, leap and climb like Chris Sharma, fight multiple opponents at once and assassinate a man from heights that would break the legs of an unconditioned civilian. He also has a great deal of cunning as a master assassin, and the mental fortitude that a professional killer requires to keep his sanity and stick to his cause. His weapons may be older than Batman's, but they are all clearly lethal, while many of Batman's weapons seem like they would be less practical in the real world. In hand to hand combat, Batman seems to be somewhat better, but odds are in a face to face fight, Ezio will use his sword, and an unarmed opponent can't just expect to defeat a highly skilled fencer. Admittedly, in a stealth kill situation, Batman has a huge advantage in most situations, since in poor light he'd be much harder to spot than Ezio, but in a sundrenched Renaissance city I doubt that would factor in a great deal. I wouldn't say Batman has no chance, but he sure as hell wouldn't have a guaranteed victory either.

This is why the Deadliest Warrior game should simply have been an engine with which you could compare two warriors of your own choosing, real or fictional, instead of the crappy arcade fighting game that it was.

Actually a lot of batman's enemies have swords. The same load out as Ezio but some are actually trained to a level HIGHER than Ezio. Look up Prometheus, Captain Stingaree, and the cavalier. Hell batman took on the second deadliest assassin in the world and still won (the first being death stroke). Hell, look up Felix Faust for magic ability. Batman has dealt with villians on higher calibers than Ezio in weaponry, AND magical ability just with fists. Sending Batman after Ezio is like sending Jango Fett against the guy from 300. Since batman traveled through time in multiple occasions, that gives Batman an insane advantage.

Maybe. I think the whole fight would be highly situational really. If Ezio could keep Batman in front of him then the sword would be too much of a threat for Batman to try and attack in close combat, because whatever a comic writer may say, in skilled hands a rapier is as precise as a scalpel and almost as fast as a bullet. If Batman used a ranged weapon when Ezio wasn't expecting it though, or remote controlled the Batmobile to run him over, then he would probably win. The fact is, both characters are deadly warriors, and neither can really be said to be flat-out better than the other. A fight between them would come down to whoever momentarily slipped up, or got in a lucky hit, or whatever else could happen.

As for the Jango Fett vs Leonidas thing, thats not a great comparison. Remember, Jango was killed by a guy simply blocking all his lasers til he was close enough to cut his head off. If the lasers were unable to penetrate the Spartan shield, then my money would be on Leonidas. The Spartans were the deadliest warriors of the ancient world for a reason, and that shield wasn't an insignificant part of their reputation.

You have to remember that it was a lightsaber, a jedi and sith weapon. Bronze shields do not block lasers, as the lasers in star wars seem to burn through everything.

In the case of the sword, batman fought many sword users head on before and still won. Hell, one of them acted like a musketeer and was defeated much like aquaman is defeated by everything. The only sword user batman couldn't defeat was deathstroke, and that was a stalemate with DC's best assassin that eclipses Ezio tenfold.

You're probably right about Jango vs Leonidas so. As for Batman and Ezio, I'm just not convinced. I don't read Batman comics and have only seen the films and played Arkham Asylum, so in a real world fight I'd have to see it to believe Batman could win. Since this fight can only be fictional I'd say it would come down to whoever made the crossover. If DC made it Batman would win. If Ubisoft made it, Ezio would win, and I'd say either victory would be entirely plausible.

Come to think of it, why the hell do half the characters in Star Wars wear suits of armour? If every shot that comes their way can melt through it like butter, what exactly is the armour supposed to protect them from?

 

[Sarah Kerrigan]

Well seeing as my last username here was 'Ezios_grl99' and Imma say Ezio