it's not the britishness that makes the Doctor great, its all the storys. aleins and things like thatJJMUG said:
An american doctor would be hard to swallow but could work
Poll: Fallout:England-Would it Work?
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I would sadly say no, I don't think it would work, and here's why:
The Fallout setting is patterned after the American 1950's image of the future. As such, as long as it's set in America, there is no problem. However, if you take it to another country, what happens? Would the setting there be the same as the American image? Or would they have followed their own country's image of the future?
More basically: Are you going to shoe-horn in the American version of the future on all of the other countries of the world, or are you going to throw out the fallout setting in favor of something that the country's people actually imagined and just keep the word "fallout" in the name to sell copies? There is no right answer here. Which ever way you go, you're either going to insult the people from that country or you're going to tamper with the formula that people know and love.
Besides, they still haven't even done Texas yet. Come on, Brahman Barons, Ten Gallon Hats, Oil Wells, Whore Houses, Cowboys and Indians, Mosquitoes the size of Geese, fighting off Super Mutants from inside the Alamo, raiding the Pantex facility (the last Nuclear Weapon construction company in the US), all the while the developer's choice of the ruins of Dallas, San Antonio, Ft. Worth, Houston, Lubbock, Austin, Waco, El Paso, and/or Corpus Cristi to explore. Hell, half of them could be done up into individual DLCs. I can definately see them doing a Texas Fallout game before they shoot themselves in the foot by moving to another country.
The Fallout setting is patterned after the American 1950's image of the future. As such, as long as it's set in America, there is no problem. However, if you take it to another country, what happens? Would the setting there be the same as the American image? Or would they have followed their own country's image of the future?
More basically: Are you going to shoe-horn in the American version of the future on all of the other countries of the world, or are you going to throw out the fallout setting in favor of something that the country's people actually imagined and just keep the word "fallout" in the name to sell copies? There is no right answer here. Which ever way you go, you're either going to insult the people from that country or you're going to tamper with the formula that people know and love.
Besides, they still haven't even done Texas yet. Come on, Brahman Barons, Ten Gallon Hats, Oil Wells, Whore Houses, Cowboys and Indians, Mosquitoes the size of Geese, fighting off Super Mutants from inside the Alamo, raiding the Pantex facility (the last Nuclear Weapon construction company in the US), all the while the developer's choice of the ruins of Dallas, San Antonio, Ft. Worth, Houston, Lubbock, Austin, Waco, El Paso, and/or Corpus Cristi to explore. Hell, half of them could be done up into individual DLCs. I can definately see them doing a Texas Fallout game before they shoot themselves in the foot by moving to another country.
Eh. No. A Fallout game set in Russia, sure. But remember, most of the charm of Fallout came from exploiting the old "Nuclear Holocaust" fears and 50's paranoia and style. America has a huge history and relationship with nuclear weapons which England doesn't have.
I also get the feeling that an English Fallout would be just bleak and humourless. That's not to say that the UK doesn't have great comedians - David Mitchell, Monty Python, all great in my book, but they don't have the CONTEXT or the cultural background to make a truly great Post-Nuclear War setting.
Americans have been writing about nuclear Armageddon for decades. During the Cold War, that paranoia was always at the back of their minds. The UK was also somewhat fearful of nuclear war, and they also had their "what-if-it-happened" movies and books ("Threads" in particular, I remember vividly). But the Nuclear War scenario was never as much in the mind of englanders as it was with Americans. The Cold War and the fear of Nuclear war was a PIVOTAL part of American culture for decades. Same can not be said of Britain.
I also get the feeling that an English Fallout would be just bleak and humourless. That's not to say that the UK doesn't have great comedians - David Mitchell, Monty Python, all great in my book, but they don't have the CONTEXT or the cultural background to make a truly great Post-Nuclear War setting.
Americans have been writing about nuclear Armageddon for decades. During the Cold War, that paranoia was always at the back of their minds. The UK was also somewhat fearful of nuclear war, and they also had their "what-if-it-happened" movies and books ("Threads" in particular, I remember vividly). But the Nuclear War scenario was never as much in the mind of englanders as it was with Americans. The Cold War and the fear of Nuclear war was a PIVOTAL part of American culture for decades. Same can not be said of Britain.
Ah, but you see, there'd be a whole tweed jacket-wearing era of England to explore!Disaster Button said:
. . . Oh wait, that would kinda suck.
OT: It could work, but I don't know how well.
Personally I'd like to see a game called 'Fallout: Not Full of Fucking Shitty Bugs Edition'
On that note, I think it would actually be pretty good if they had some DLC for going to England. A good field test to see if people like it or not and we get to see and play in England for a bit.Ephraim J. Witchwood said:On Topic. I'd love to see a Fallout game set in England. Maybe some branching out into Ireland for DLC or something.
It's worth a try, isn't it? We're always complaining that the industry isn't experimental enough, yet when ideas like these come along that interrupt 'canon' we all turn and shout no.
Guns are actually a lot more common in UK than some of you seem to think. Just not registered etc, it'd be pretty easy for me to go out now and find a shooter if I wanted. And I don't even live in a big city.
Besides, wouldn't there have been a fuck-ton of weapons kicking around from WW2 in 1950s england, and stuff like heavy artilery, AA-Guns all that sort of big stuff.
Just a thought.
Besides, wouldn't there have been a fuck-ton of weapons kicking around from WW2 in 1950s england, and stuff like heavy artilery, AA-Guns all that sort of big stuff.
Just a thought.
Appalling grammar aside, London has an entire network of tunnels that form a huge underground system of sewers. Would that not be a decent substitute?ghostracoon16 said:
Apocolypse Britain? - Yes.MulticolorCharizard said:
Fallout: UK? - No, fallout is a jolly poke at 50's america sterotypes, so leave it alone.
Can you imagine the voice actors for fallout: london (american dev studio, cockney accent obviously used to portray london) Or Fallout: Birmingham?
TL;DR - Games set in UK: YES
- Fallout in UK: NO
At first I thought, that would be a great idea, but then I put some real thought into in and came up with these answers,
Reasons it would work:
First off to those who say no because there are no Vaults in England, May I remind you of the Ghoul community, or New Vegas that survived with anti missle Software, And think back to Little Lamplight (Fallout 3) Where the students who were on a ''Field trip'' to the caves when the bombs fell, they survived in the deep caves, then they started eating their teachers but that doesn't really matter.
There are plenty of caves (in Cheddar and many other places) in England that people could of survived in due to sheer luck or the delay from the bombs landing in America and people presuming England would also be hit, And there are a few people with bomb shelters etc that would be exposed to radiation once they left, but Ghouls gotta come from somewhere,
Reasons it wouldn't work:
The wildlife, in America, there are Coyotes and Scorpions and bears that can savagely kill you (In game...) In England... You're gonna get pwned by a evil Cow(Brahmin)? Sheep(Bighorner)? Squirrel?
And think about it, only in America would people start shooting each other and becoming bandits, Warring tribes, Warring Factions, Or nut jobs that think they're Caesar come to power after being bombed the shit out of by China instead of rebuilding society... And it takes a certain amount of inbreeding before radiation will turn you into Supermutants, and lets face it, only American has enough to have a significant amount of Mutants without them being wiped out within a week or two...
Reasons it would work:
First off to those who say no because there are no Vaults in England, May I remind you of the Ghoul community, or New Vegas that survived with anti missle Software, And think back to Little Lamplight (Fallout 3) Where the students who were on a ''Field trip'' to the caves when the bombs fell, they survived in the deep caves, then they started eating their teachers but that doesn't really matter.
There are plenty of caves (in Cheddar and many other places) in England that people could of survived in due to sheer luck or the delay from the bombs landing in America and people presuming England would also be hit, And there are a few people with bomb shelters etc that would be exposed to radiation once they left, but Ghouls gotta come from somewhere,
Reasons it wouldn't work:
The wildlife, in America, there are Coyotes and Scorpions and bears that can savagely kill you (In game...) In England... You're gonna get pwned by a evil Cow(Brahmin)? Sheep(Bighorner)? Squirrel?
And think about it, only in America would people start shooting each other and becoming bandits, Warring tribes, Warring Factions, Or nut jobs that think they're Caesar come to power after being bombed the shit out of by China instead of rebuilding society... And it takes a certain amount of inbreeding before radiation will turn you into Supermutants, and lets face it, only American has enough to have a significant amount of Mutants without them being wiped out within a week or two...
I could totally see Fallout London. It would pretty much have to be London to be recognisable enough to the rest of the world. You don't want to alienate the Americans who have never heard of Manchester.
True enough, but there are plenty of ways they could kludge it into the lore, though some might be pretty unsatisfactory to fans of the series. It also seems to me that they haven't focused much on the lore recently anyway (though I haven't played New Vegas much, there was relatively little of it in 3).apsham said:
There's also the even simpler possibility of throwing caution to the wind and branching off into an alternate timeline for the game or some such. It'd be pretty hamfisted, but I don't think anyone would mind particularly so long as they kept it seperate from the canon developed so far.
It could work, if done well enough. England could have changed in the time from the 1950s to the Great war. A problem would probably be hardcore fanboys, from No Mutants Allowed and such. It would probably also be for the best if it had less invisible walls, and possibly to some extent, freerunning.
To all the people saying it wouldn't work because Fallout is just laughing at 1950's America: I know fuck-all about America. Doesn't mean I think it's bad, or unfunny.
So yeah, it could work.
So yeah, it could work.