Poll: Friendship between Men and Women or The Ladder Theory
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By this does that mean that gay men can't have male friends?
I think this is stupid.
I have plenty of friends I don't wish to have sex with
I think this is stupid.
I have plenty of friends I don't wish to have sex with
So its basically saying all women are bitches and all men are pigs?
Its sexist against everybody, excellent.
Its sexist against everybody, excellent.
Rather silly theory, but to be honest... I've slept with all my friends that happened to be girls. Even the fugly ones.
I must confess, being a single 21 year old guy, sex does frequent my brain with occasional idle thoughts about any girl in the place, though not with the frequency and crassness that some seem to be prone to (I have more class than ogling every ass that walks by while muttering 'phoar!', for instance). Doesn't stop me being friends with any of them (girls, not asses...), though, and I don't feel that those thoughts get in the way of me judging them on their personalities either.
A theory is just a theory, and this just sounds like the sort of clap that pseudo-psychologists like to throw out to start a discussion based purely on opinion.
Guess it succeeded
A theory is just a theory, and this just sounds like the sort of clap that pseudo-psychologists like to throw out to start a discussion based purely on opinion.
Guess it succeeded
I agree with this theory. I think it's impossible for a heterosexual man to NOT have sexual thoughts about the women in his life. Whether they be friends, coworkers, acquaintances or even relatives. These sexual thoughts could be anything from how she looks naked to detailed descriptions of desired activities. However, this doesn't necessarily mean they ever plan to act on these thoughts.
They're just idle thoughts, about boobs n' stuff. Men who claim to not have these thoughts are probably liars (like most of these other posters).
(I'm glad I never had sisters, that would've been awkward...)
They're just idle thoughts, about boobs n' stuff. Men who claim to not have these thoughts are probably liars (like most of these other posters
).(I'm glad I never had sisters, that would've been awkward...)
Not in the scientific sense, which is what psychologists need to use if they are to be taken seriously.Dragoonit said:
I'm going to go with I don't agree because:
1) It's far too simple a system and doesn't factor in a LOT of shit. Or it does and is just incredibly vague about it. In fact I feel personally insulted (by the article) that it would go so far as to put numerical values onto how we base our complex opinions, feelings and sexual attraction to and about other people.
2) It's too conceptual. Similar to my above point, it comes across as deep without really tying itself down to anything by using "ladders" as an explanation.
3) No scientific backing. Even with the above points, I would be willing to accept it if it only had this. But it doesn't, so fuck it.
I agree it's an interesting dilemma and personally the argument as to whether sex can be totally excluded from heterosexual male-female relationships is something I'm interestd in and could do with investigation, but I am not at all going to agree with something like this Ladder hypothesis.
No. Isn't this degrading to males by saying that they're so simple that they can only handle one "ladder" consisting of "I would have sex with her" or "I wouldn't have sex with her"?
Complete and total bullshit. My best friend is a woman and yes there was a time where I would have gladly had a romantic relationship with her I now value her friendship too much to take a chance and have something go wrong and not have her around anymore. We have love for each other and we show affection, when we see each other we hug, and she gives the best backrubs ever, we've just both agreed that even now that she's single again we should never be a couple.
She has been an awesome friend for nearly 15 years now, someone I could always talk to and get an honest answer or opinion on anything from. We've been through a lot together, especially in the last year and we've only become closer friends because of it. We share quite a few of the same interests as well. She's smart and funny and witty and easy to get along with, we've never had an argument over something serious, sure, we argue but it's all in fun over things that don't really matter.
Men and women can be friends without the guy wanting to bone the chick or vice-versa under the right conditions.
She has been an awesome friend for nearly 15 years now, someone I could always talk to and get an honest answer or opinion on anything from. We've been through a lot together, especially in the last year and we've only become closer friends because of it. We share quite a few of the same interests as well. She's smart and funny and witty and easy to get along with, we've never had an argument over something serious, sure, we argue but it's all in fun over things that don't really matter.
Men and women can be friends without the guy wanting to bone the chick or vice-versa under the right conditions.
Eh, See I have a ladder of rankings. and below a certain point it becomes "ha ha ha no." territory, but I dunno isint that just having standards?
And beyond that there are lots of girls I would sleep with but at the same time cant stand(dick says yes brain says no) I mean yes I have a ranking system but there are a lot of other concerns (for instance where does not sleeping with your friends hot girlfriend come into this thought process?)
For something that dominates our culture and the vast majority of our brains available processing power (as well as our physical makeup) I find it hard to believe it can be simplified into one ladder for guys two ladders for girls.
This was probably invented by some dude who was butthurt about being put in the friend zone and tried to rationalize it in a way that didn't crush his short pimply limp wristed self esteem. And has since caught on in circles of people too stupid to know better and girls who read those awful womens mags.
And beyond that there are lots of girls I would sleep with but at the same time cant stand(dick says yes brain says no) I mean yes I have a ranking system but there are a lot of other concerns (for instance where does not sleeping with your friends hot girlfriend come into this thought process?)
For something that dominates our culture and the vast majority of our brains available processing power (as well as our physical makeup) I find it hard to believe it can be simplified into one ladder for guys two ladders for girls.
This was probably invented by some dude who was butthurt about being put in the friend zone and tried to rationalize it in a way that didn't crush his short pimply limp wristed self esteem. And has since caught on in circles of people too stupid to know better and girls who read those awful womens mags.
No, I disagree with the theory. That doesn't mean I wouldn't do some of my female friends though...
