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Torian_Kel

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xmetatr0nx said:
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Torian_Kel said:
xmetatr0nx said:
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xmetatr0nx said:
Lullabye said:
be part of the cause of another war or something
Ok thats a bit much dont you think?
Otherwise, I am for genetic manipulation as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others.
My god youre right, the US should totaly attack canada...

I was not insinuating that the US should attack Canada or that Lawsuits equal wars.

What I am saying is that there is the possibility because people go to war over stupidest shit like religion that they could go to war over something more rational such as watching their GDP plummet when a bacteriophage was modified to protect a plant, mutates, and kills a nations cattle. If said bacteriophage was traced back to a nation, and the company that created gives the other nation the finger...
how come when i said that i got rebuted? at least we have a few realists here.
Well its simple really, i just plain dont like you...also rebuted isnt a word!!

Or i was getting bored with this subject and decided that, while yes there is a far off chance that wars maybe started over this matter its highly unlikely.

Maybe I just WANT there to be an epic war that started in someone's lab that spread out and OMG ITS RESIDENT EVIL!!!!!!

or maybe not.
 

spuddyt

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I wish we could not do it, damn you god, but since we can, I think we should improve our lot by any means necessary
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
Lullabye said:
xmetatr0nx said:
Lullabye said:
be part of the cause of another war or something
Ok thats a bit much dont you think?
well, considering how often people die to prove they have a better imaginary friend then everyone else, no not really.
You apparently dont know the magic of my imaginary friend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8

Well there were the "coffee" wars in south america but that had very little to do with genetic modification. Sugar cane maybe, but really i think the only world wide problem would come about when a serious problem is discovered with a particular GMO.
That video seriously needs more Buddy Christ:



The singers facial expressions were hilarious btw.
 

Skeleon

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Where to draw the line in, say, fetal manipulation?

Another aspect concerning agriculture: Farmers become dependent on the pharmaceutical-firms that sell specific items for their gene-altered corn or whatever.

In general it's good, even great, but there are some issues that need to be resolved first before I'd consider it "perfect".
 

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Flunk

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Mutation is random, genetic manipulation is planned. Maybe you should make your topic less confusing.
 

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ThrobbingEgo said:
I think that instead of trying to make plants and animals bigger, we should focus on making tomatoes taste like steak. I would go vegetarian if tomatoes tasted like steak. It'd put an end to animal suffering.
good idea and make people,plants and animals smaller so there is more space on earth
 

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Mankind has used selective breeding as a form of genetic manip. for thousands of years. Indeed, the Wheat plant is a cross between grasses and cannot exist without man.

The bananna today is very different than the banannas cultivated 60 years ago, as a fungal plague wiped out the last cultivated species. This bananna (the cavendish, i think) doesn't taste nearly as good, but transports well and has great disease resistance. Theres no reason to live through another bananna apocolypse simply because genetic manipulation weirds people out.

Genetic engineering is simply targeted manipulation. This way you don't have to selectively breed salmon with tomatos, you can go right to the source of the trait you want. Could you imagine getting a salmon to breed with a tomato? Its really hard.
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I must add that genetic manipulation and engineering really has very little to do with mutation.
 

massau

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thiosk said:
Mankind has used selective breeding as a form of genetic manip. for thousands of years. Indeed, the Wheat plant is a cross between grasses and cannot exist without man.

The bananna today is very different than the banannas cultivated 60 years ago, as a fungal plague wiped out the last cultivated species. This bananna (the cavendish, i think) doesn't taste nearly as good, but transports well and has great disease resistance.

Genetic engineering is simply targeted manipulation. This way you don't have to selectively breed salmon with tomatos, you can go right to the source of the trait you want. Could you imagine getting a salmon to breed with a tomato? Its really hard.
no but we can change there DNA
 

massau

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Flunk said:
Mutation is random, genetic manipulation is planned. Maybe you should make your topic less confusing.
k sorry i only had 4 years of English in school and 10 yeas of games so i shal chance the title
 

thiosk

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no but we can change there DNA
Is that an argument?

I will not bother myself to further explain the techniques employed in genetic engineering, but I will say that its not as easy as saying "HAY LETS GIVE A CAT ANTLERS LOL."

But there is a such thing as gene guns. thats awesome.
 

massau

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thiosk said:
massau said:
no but we can change there DNA
Is that an argument?

I will not bother myself to further explain the techniques employed in genetic engineering, but I will say that its not as easy as saying "HAY LETS GIVE A CAT ANTLERS LOL."

But there is a such thing as gene guns. that's awesome.
i just mean we need to resurge it till we can control it and than we can really start to use it
 

Torian_Kel

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wordsmith said:
We've stopped evolving... The answer? Kickstart it ourselves.
No living creature ever stops evolving. As our environments constantly change we adapt, these adaptations then become passed on in genetic form. Hence gamers have awesome hands and fast reflexes...but still no social skills...*Face palm*
 

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I'm not going to try and debate this too much mostly because I know very little about the subject, but genetic mutation seems like an interesting idea for our scientists to branch off of.

Yes, we've seen thousands of films showing how bad genetic mutation can be, but it is a good idea to study it, simply for the ways it can help us grow and develop as a species.
 

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massau said:
NeoDeath90 said:
Think yin and yang. You cannot have one without the other, there can be no good without evil and all that. sure, we could increase the size of food and put a slow on world hunger, or we can give immunities to animals, but there will always be some one who wants to test on humans.

Genetic mutations in humans can certainly bring about another sort of conflict, and eventually we'd end up with oversized veggies and untainted animals, but we'd also end up with a bunch of failed experiments and insane humans.

Messing with genetics is fine in my book, but like everything else, in moderation.
maybe we can become all super smart and evolve even faster but i know there is no good without evil
With super intelligence comes the need to weed out who is of inferior intelligence. Not everyone will be like this, but there will be some who will. No matter how humans mutate, we are still humans. Corrupt and flawed humans.
 

Marv21

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I think what we can change for the betterment for humanity while keeping individual looks etc. would make this perfect! We don't want another Nazi Germany!

But yes, I should think we should control our vegetables etc. as long as they strictly are controlled to the specific farm etc.!
 

Donbett1974

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Farmers and ranchers been doing genetic manipulation for hundreds of years its called selective breeding.
 

Flour

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Actual genetic manipulation should be banned.
Why? You wouldn't want someone to 'accidentally' spread something like this [http://www.biotech-info.net/conception.html] around in normal corn fields.

massau said:
i get it but why make bacteria if you could make the plant immune?
That would be a temporary solution. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methicillin-resistant_Staphylococcus_aureus]
 

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ThrobbingEgo said:
I think that instead of trying to make plants and animals bigger, we should focus on making tomatoes taste like steak. I would go vegetarian if tomatoes tasted like steak. It'd put an end to animal suffering.
How could you do that to the poor cows? What have they ever done to you? Seriously, if they weren't cultivated for their meat and hides, cattle would be extinct. The same goes for chickens and sheep. They just can't survive on their own. none of them even exist in the wild any more.
OT, and yet on a related note, everything we eat is *already* heavily genetically modified. Ever seen wild wheat? Neither have I. Look at seedless fruit. Do you think that grows in the wild? Unless you hunt and gather wild food sources, you have never in your life eaten food that wasn't genetically modified. The only difference is how long the modification takes, really.