Poll: Good Griefing

[Lullabye]

Good Griefing [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_200/6029-War-and-Peace]

Hello all, welcome to my anti-anti-griefing-war thread.

now after reading this article all I have to say is this: hippies go die!

I have been extremely happy that videogames up till now have been untouched by this sort of thing. The article poses a good question at the end
"But what about the players who just like to blow off a little steam? Aren't they entitled to play online without being reminded of the horrors of real-life conflict?"
My answer to this is yes.
The reason I game is for stress release. I enjoy the stories and gameplay, but i wouldn't game nearly as much if it didn't allow me to kill every living thing in sight without being hounded for it.
Not to long ago i recieved a message on my xbl account from an person i had played with. It went something like, "my father has just died over seas fighting for our freedom, please pray for him." Now this is absolutly acceptable. The only interference it provided was a two second pop up saying "you have recieved a message from ________"
After my game I had a minute to kill so i read it then.
I was so happy that this individual was smart enough not to grief me un game I actually prayed for his father, even though I'm atheist(-ish.)
But more recently, an example of activists touting anti-war propaganda found its way into one of my Cod4 matches. Several individuals joined our server, and within ten seconds had covered the map in smoke grenades all the while spewing "make love not war!"
Now, dont get me wrong, I hate war and all it entails, but only in REAL LIFE. Hippies should leave our games alone. but that's just my opinion. whats yours?

 

[jasoncyrus]

For a moment i thought you were speaking about griefing other payers in games when ir nead the title...

TBH I don't have the effort to read the article since it'll probably make me rage out at something and go run a hippie down or something.

As for politcs, they need to stay the frick away from my fps games. Unless they are personally willing to step into the firing line and get fragged 24/7 as the target of my stress relief.

Uptight, dumbass, idiot hippies *mutters, grumbles, frags a hippie*

P.S.

"my father has just died over seas fighting for our freedom, please pray for him."

His dad knew the dangers and STILL went. He doesn't deserve any prayers since he went on his own accord.

 

[Gladion]

I wouldn't call myself a pacifist, but I do rage from time to time though I never become violent (you'd really have to do something awful to get me to hit you). Even though being a peace-loving *****, I like my share of violence in movies and games, to a degree many people don't seem to being able to take. Yeah, we're talking about the ultra-violent stuff mainly found in movies as games are pretty tame in comparison (I don't want to name anything because that would sound like advertisement). Now, I don't want people to interrupt me while I'm enjoying my blood and guts. I completely understand you. I don't see anything wrong with fictional violence.

 

[Lullabye]

For a moment i thought you were speaking about griefing other payers in games when ir nead the title...

TBH I don't have the effort to read the article since it'll probably make me rage out at something and go run a hippie down or something.

As for politcs, they need to stay the frick away from my fps games. Unless they are personally willing to step into the firing line and get fragged 24/7 as the target of my stress relief.

Uptight, dumbass, idiot hippies *mutters, grumbles, frags a hippie*

P.S.

"my father has just died over seas fighting for our freedom, please pray for him."

His dad knew the dangers and STILL went. He doesn't deserve any prayers since he went on his own accord.

I was talking about in game griefing. people who log in the game, join a server and start throwing flash bangs in your face while telling you how wrong it is to kill other people.
and yes, he knew the dangers and still went off to fight for his country. That kind of patriotism deserves something(in his case it was death).

 

[Yuriatayde]

I think I'm going to throw that in the bin of regular griefing. The idea of smoke-bombing an entire map while shouting "make love not war!" doesn't sound very anti-war considering the context, it sounds more "hey, I have an idea that'll tick people off!"-ish.

Then again, I'm a naive optimist, and I really, really hope they weren't doing that as an actual anti-war protest... because it's silly... seriously though... come on... no.

 

[APPCRASH]

"my father has just died over seas fighting for our freedom, please pray for him."

His dad knew the dangers and STILL went. He doesn't deserve any prayers since he went on his own accord.

Thats...very uncool. Regardless of political stance of him or his family, any service man that goes over seas for the freedoms that you like to use so blindly, deserves EVERY FUCKING BIT OF OUR GOD-DAMN PRAYERS.

 

[Pandalisk]

For a moment i thought you were speaking about griefing other payers in games when ir nead the title...

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so did i after reading that article today by the editor

the Grieving of a family member or the like is perfectly fine because its a choice, we could or we could decide not to, it doesn't matter whatsoever

His dad knew the dangers and STILL went. He doesn't deserve any prayers since he went on his own accord.

Nonsense regardless of whether he knew the risks or not he still deserves our prayers, men and women like these are brave and deserve to be praised because if they didn't defend their country who the fuck would?


I have to say that anti-war protesters coming on the sever is a little sad, dont these people have anything better to be doing? do they really think doing that will have any effect on my opinion? all it really does is piss me of immesnly, more damage than good i say

 

[jasoncyrus]

Ahh, in game griefing, well that comes in many many forms, not just the hypocritical bs people on CS spout.

As for him getting something he deserved...usually its some kind of fatal injury.

In my honest opinion, only an idiot goes to war for his country. Especially when we have napalm at our disposal (Yes i firmly believe it should be re-instated, that stuff was SCARY.)

 

[Bendon]

yeah I voted yes thinking you meant real griefing. That can be hilarious.

 

[Nmil-ek]

"my father has just died over seas fighting for our freedom, please pray for him."

His dad knew the dangers and STILL went. He doesn't deserve any prayers since he went on his own accord.

Thats...very uncool. Regardless of political stance of him or his family, any service man that goes over seas for the freedoms that you like to use so blindly, deserves EVERY FUCKING BIT OF OUR GOD-DAMN PRAYERS.

Not really he went over as part of his job I never get where this freedoms part comes into it. What if some middle eastern country is a democracy or not it effects that you can sit in your chair and type on forums or not? Not really.

 

[jasoncyrus]

"my father has just died over seas fighting for our freedom, please pray for him."

His dad knew the dangers and STILL went. He doesn't deserve any prayers since he went on his own accord.

Thats...very uncool. Regardless of political stance of him or his family, any service man that goes over seas for the freedoms that you like to use so blindly, deserves EVERY FUCKING BIT OF OUR GOD-DAMN PRAYERS.

Nonsense, I'm not from the Us so I dont need to be patriotic. Us Brits are much more sensible...we can actually tell friend from foe aswell unlike US targetting systems.

Plus, prayers arn't gonna stop him getting shot, if they did then no one would die would they. But anyway, lets not start areligion debate...theres plenty other religion debates out there. We are talking about griefing in game which is a pain in the rear.

Nonsense regardless of whether he knew the risks or not he still deserves our prayers, men and women like these are brave and deserve to be praised because if they didn't defend their country who the fuck would?

So Terrorists deserve the same prayers we give out?

They are fighting us for very similar reasons. We think theya re evil people and they hink we're evil...after all, we invaded them long before they invaded us. If anything we're the bad guys.

Plus as I've said before...we have napalm, if we don't use it on the "evil" people in the world and instead choose to throw hundreds of innocent people into the meat grinder...then those people who chose to volunteer for said meat grinder arn't exactly intellgent are they.

This is why we invented nuclear weapons, napalm etc. To scare the hell out of our enemies. Cannon fodder doesn't intimidate anyone anymore.

 

[Lullabye]

yeah I voted yes thinking you meant real griefing. That can be hilarious.

Yes it can. And sometimes it can be downright gut busting, but only if its not you gettin grieved at.

 

[joystickjunki3]

It was bound to happen sooner or later, but I don't like it. At all.

I don't play CS, but I love Quake 3 and 4. I don't need someone telling me I can't kill Stroggs or other gladiators, so fuck them if they don't don't protest on the forums.

That being said, every once in awhile it might be necessary to bring controversial material into places it doesn't belong (or otherwise we might not take notice).

 

[Lullabye]

"my father has just died over seas fighting for our freedom, please pray for him."

His dad knew the dangers and STILL went. He doesn't deserve any prayers since he went on his own accord.

Thats...very uncool. Regardless of political stance of him or his family, any service man that goes over seas for the freedoms that you like to use so blindly, deserves EVERY FUCKING BIT OF OUR GOD-DAMN PRAYERS.

Nonsense, I'm not from the Us so I dont need to be patriotic. Us Brits are much more sensible...we can actually tell friend from foe aswell unlike US targetting systems.

Plus, prayers arn't gonna stop him getting shot, if they did then no one would die would they. But anyway, lets not start areligion debate...theres plenty other religion debates out there. We are talking about griefing in game which is a pain in the rear.

Nonsense regardless of whether he knew the risks or not he still deserves our prayers, men and women like these are brave and deserve to be praised because if they didn't defend their country who the fuck would?

So Terrorists deserve the same prayers we give out?

They are fighting us for very similar reasons. We think theya re evil people and they hink we're evil...after all, we invaded them long before they invaded us. If anything we're the bad guys.

Plus as I've said before...we have napalm, if we don't use it on the "evil" people in the world and instead choose to throw hundreds of innocent people into the meat grinder...then those people who chose to volunteer for said meat grinder arn't exactly intellgent are they.

This is why we invented nuclear weapons, napalm etc. To scare the hell out of our enemies. Cannon fodder doesn't intimidate anyone anymore.

patriotism is in EVERY country, not just america. the only exception to this is maybe, Canada. I try, but it's really hard.
Also, prayers won't help him not get shot, but this very distraught individual asked me to pray for his father WHO JUST DIED. I couldn't see how that could hurt.
No, you do not have to pray for your enemies. Unfortunately(and im sure many agree) people are individuals and nothing is ever black and white.
The only place it is black and white, is in games. So when people come into games and try forcing that gray stuff at us i get pissed. but when asked to honour the death of somebody I do so if they ask appropriatly. I would even do so for somebody from Iraq fighting against us, since it doesnt make an actual difference.

 

[jasoncyrus]

Actually its not in the UK unless someone gets killed, if they dont die then we dont give a toss usually.

Same for most of europe really...at least we arn't as over enthusiastic about it as the US.

But yeah, I agree with you on not bringing it into games. There is you and the enemy, they must perish as many times as possible.

 

[slevin8989]

Political agenda should stay out of games. Games are just entertaiment for people to escape their real lives. and a soldier deserves respect.