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Rushin

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I've begun to notice graffiti lately and even though it's a crime it looks kind of good sometimes.(When it's not some persons name scribbled on the wall. So what do you think?
 

Aardvark

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Ask the poor bastards who have to clean it off their shop-fronts.

If you're artistically inclined, go purchase/build your own wall.
 

Fightgarr

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I am a graffiti muralist. I don't write words as most graff artists do. I do pictures which generally start in my sketchbook. I use legal walls and the underside of bridges by train tracks as my canvasses. I love graffiti, its one of my hobbies. Actual murals are a great beautification of an otherwise grey and dull space. I prefer when it has some kind of point though.
 

perfectimo

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First. Change the poll, it assumes that all people hold those views.

Second. If you are doing it illegally it doesn't matter if it looks good or not you are breaking the law. You should get permission first. It's like how buskers work.
 

mokes310

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I don't agree with the poll. I think you need a few other, different options. I, for one, am not opposed, nor against it. I lived in LA for three years, and saw some awesome works, and also some absolutely terrible pieces.
 

Reaperman Wompa

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It depends. Some fuckwit who "tagged" an annoying or public spot is a douchebag, while another person who did it legally and in a designated spot is an artist. It's a combination of what was put up, and where it was done. I like proper graffiti, and some of it can be really good but there's just too much crap about.
 

sheic99

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fullmetalangel said:
Aardvark said:
Ask the poor bastards who have to clean it off their shop-fronts.

If you're artistically inclined, go purchase/build your own wall.
This.
What about the people who do it where the city allows. In LA, they allowed artists to do their works under bridges with out incurring the law and it decreased the number of illegal graffiti.
 

Figgis Fiddis

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Sometimes graffiti is used almost as a way of viral marketing. Drawing a design or logo all over town is a way of saying that "our organization is strong, cause we can do this".

A better way to do that would be through flyers, or anything else that you don't have to scrub off walls.
 

AuntyEthel

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I have seen some amazing pieces, particularly around Bristol and Brighton. However, on more than one occasion, I've had to buy a whole tin of paint and spend ages redoing my front wall because some asshole sprayed his pathetic profanity on it in that crappy scribble style.
 

Booze Zombie

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If you've got a skilled artist "tagging up a place with colours an' shit", I imagine it's quite a pleasant spectacle. The police might even ignore it.

An unskilled, boorish moron spraying "bob fuks his mom" all over a chip shop, on the other hand... is bloody annoying.

I would therefore answer: It is contextual, depending on the skill of the graffiti maker and where the graffiti has been placed.
 

CrafterMan

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Aardvark said:
Ask the poor bastards who have to clean it off their shop-fronts.

If you're artistically inclined, go purchase/build your own wall.
Thank you!

Fuck it annoys me when I wake up in the morning to see my shop wall covered in:

KrIp.

bLUDZ ROLLAZ FO LIFE

HOODED KILLAZ

etc
 

sequio

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If most graffiti artists would pay for their own mural to spray on they would be misunderstood artists. But they don't...which makes it vandalism, for attention no less.
 

Good morning blues

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Tagging is horse shit, but a lot of grafitti is fantastic - I would say almost everything that isn't tagging is really a form of artistic expression that should be protected. As long as it's not being put on somewhere too private (such as homes) I don't have any problem with it.

Additionally, I think that Banksy is probably the greatest living artist in the world right now.
 

SecretTacoNinja

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I'm a big fan of Banksy. Graffiti can be awesome when done right, but the majority of people who do it are hooded idiots. Pity...
 

iseko

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Graffiti can be art sometimes and very nice to look at. A friend a mine had a guy spray graffiti on his bedroom wall and it looks really cool. Problem is that if you do it in public its vandalisme and not everyone would like it on their walls.
 

Fightbulb

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It's vandalism and art. Well, apart from people just writing random shit like band names and curse words. I'm talking about actual writers.
 

Revernd Awesome

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AuntyEthel said:
I have seen some amazing pieces, particularly around Bristol and Brighton. However, on more than one occasion, I've had to buy a whole tin of paint and spend ages redoing my front wall because some asshole sprayed his pathetic profanity on it in that crappy scribble style.

I live in Brighton and used to be a major part of the scene, I had to stop recently due to a lack of funds for buying paint, and having my right hand in a cast for the best part of a year.
A lot of the people I talked to who were Graffiti Artists agree, Tagging is just vandalism and pointless.
Part of the appeal of doing a large mural is the fact that it is illegal, and it is often part of a complex political statement, while this can be atrocious and it IS technically illegal it can be really quite Awe-inspiring.

All the 3 legal spots for Graffiti in Brighton have been closed down, and then they complain about illegal graffiti, they're really dumb.

If you know where to look, there really is some amazing stuff, not just the incredibly over-publicised stuff like Banksy but more traditional piece Artists like Odessy and Soleo and Brighton locals, both incredible.
if you inserted in more stencil graffiti like Banksy, look up Blek Le Rat, Bankys' French predecessor and cited as one of the major influences on Banksy' work.
 

elmaxx

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Graffiti, nowadays is considered vandalism, specially because it is done without the area owner's permission most if not all of the time.

It can be a satirical comment, a form of protest, and in some select cases a very contested form of art, that some supporters and public in general believe should be preserved/cured.

Personally i believe in the freedom of expression, and with the right tools Graffiti can be a very visual way of getting the message across.

In Guatemala "Guerrilla Art" took off in the past years with stenciled Graffiti much like Banksy's style. And some of the "Guerrilla Artists" deliver a powerful and socially acceptable message through this medium, for example:
-to keep the streets clean
-to help a needy person/organization/movement (quite successfully i might add)
-to help ease the general populace from common violence (good messages of hope, and similar)

It may be illegal, but i believe it has more merits than recognized at first... if you are able to see the messages and intentions from different angles.
 

Dys

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Graffiti is vandalism, not art.
The 'graffiti' you see that looks good, where I come from is more likely than not, endorsed by the owner of the property. At one point I was actually part of a group doing a council funded stencil near the highschool I went too, completely legal and tasteful.
As such it isn't 'real' graffiti, it is simply art (graffiti has negative connotations). As it's really hard to apply a decent stencil without anyone noticing, most graffiti is senseless scribble, done freehand.