Poll: GW2 vs WoW, who will win?
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If anything is going to take a lot of WoW's user base and keep it, it's going to be "Old Republic". If it fails, we're not going to see it happen in the near future.
The free-to-play model of Guild Wars means that it's not going to be able to compete in the same area as WoW because by definition it can't maintain a costly infrastructure without a constant influx of cash.
The free-to-play model of Guild Wars means that it's not going to be able to compete in the same area as WoW because by definition it can't maintain a costly infrastructure without a constant influx of cash.
Thanks, tips!Korten12 said:
In other news, NO!!! REALLY!?! and finally, that just proves my point.
Given that an MMO is concidered a monumental success if it can hold one tenth of WoW's subscriber base, the question becomes, do you honestly see GW2 getting a million players, when GW1 hasn't even come close to that mark?
GW isn't bad... but... really!?! Come on, people.
Give it a year.MaVeN1337 said:
I really don't think it's possible for a new game to compete with World of Warcrafts polish. Having 3 expansions under its' belt, WoW has gone through some pretty monumental changes, most for the better. This has caused them to have tremendous success, something that simply can't be paralleled by a brand new product. It can't compare to the volume of content or the experience gained from having a very strong title for the past 6 years.
No one will topple World of Warcraft. It can only slowly kill itself through stupid decisions and neglect at this point.
Also, free online cannot be compared to payed monthly subscription as the free online will always have more comers than the more expensive monthly subscription.
No one will topple World of Warcraft. It can only slowly kill itself through stupid decisions and neglect at this point.
Also, free online cannot be compared to payed monthly subscription as the free online will always have more comers than the more expensive monthly subscription.
The amount of misinformation is almost impressive. Does anybody bother looking at the games they are commenting anymore?
1. NCsoft is NOT developing GW2, Arenanet is. NCsoft has no direct influence on the game, they just provide the money.
2. Guildwars 2 is nothing like Guildwars 1, seriously.
3. A monthly fee is NOT necessary to maintain an MMO and develop new content. In fact, little of the subscription money is funneled back into development.
4. Being a BuyToPlay game, Guildwars2 is NOT in direct competition with any subscription MMO and there is therefore no "competition" to win, aside from making money for the investors and developers.
1. NCsoft is NOT developing GW2, Arenanet is. NCsoft has no direct influence on the game, they just provide the money.
2. Guildwars 2 is nothing like Guildwars 1, seriously.
3. A monthly fee is NOT necessary to maintain an MMO and develop new content. In fact, little of the subscription money is funneled back into development.
4. Being a BuyToPlay game, Guildwars2 is NOT in direct competition with any subscription MMO and there is therefore no "competition" to win, aside from making money for the investors and developers.
I think Guild Wars 2 has a lot of potential and from what I remember, it's very pretty but I wouldn't put anything up against WoW before it's even released. I'd say the more they try to be original and deviate from what WoW has set as an apparent standard the better they'll do.
Uh, Guild Wars has sold at least 6 million copies. And since it's free to play, there are no subscribers. People can and do leave and come back whenever they feel like it, particularly when an expansion comes out, and it doesn't hurt the game at all. (As will be the case with GW2.)DracoSuave said:
On top of that, GW1 was received extremely well. It's still one of the highest rated MMOs out there.
And finally, GW2 is going to be very, very different from GW1. It has vastly more mainstream appeal.
I'm not a fan of WoW. I played it (after putting up with 2 years of my roommates nagging me to play) and felt like I was being cheating out of money and a lot of my time.
However, the difficulty of this questions is about the same as "is the sky blue?"
However, the difficulty of this questions is about the same as "is the sky blue?"
May I add a game that may not be rereleased into America or anywhere but Korea into the competition?
Hellgate. Fucking. London.
I only found out about this game months after it stopped being supported and the company went under but this game seems like it has everything... This is sheer speculation and I never played it, not even sure if it is the same type of game but from what i understand it was an MMORPG. Hellgate Ressurection would be the "WoW killer" in my opinion, at least for me (3 year WoW addict, 3 lvl 85's over 250 accumulated days played)
Hellgate. Fucking. London.
I only found out about this game months after it stopped being supported and the company went under but this game seems like it has everything... This is sheer speculation and I never played it, not even sure if it is the same type of game but from what i understand it was an MMORPG. Hellgate Ressurection would be the "WoW killer" in my opinion, at least for me (3 year WoW addict, 3 lvl 85's over 250 accumulated days played)
And yet Guild Wars didn't -dent- WoW. A lot of people who bought it, never played it again. Current players are considerably less, less than a million.EmperorSubcutaneous said:
Consider that that's 6 million total paid accounts made vs over 12 million current subscribers which doesn't account for total paid accounts.
That number is meaningless in a discussion of whether GW2 will be a 'wow-killer'. Nor is that even an appropriate term? GW1 wasn't even a WoW-tickler.
To give you an idea of what that means... 'well received' means that it has a current player base of over 100,000 generally. EQ was 'well received.' City of Heroes was 'well received.' Which is fine, and I wish them success.
"Well Receieved" Is the green 'participation' ribbon at sports day. It means you showed up. The competition here is WoW. Seriously. WoW.
A more appropriate discussion is 'Do we think this game will survive its first year?' I think it will. And that is what 'Well Received' gets you. You don't die.
So? It's still a sequal to a game that didn't dent the competition that a lot of deluded 'hypesters' are saying it will kill.
Seriously, dream on. It isn't going to happen, and if it does happen, it won't be anything quick. Talk about wow-killers when they get past their first year. Most MMOs don't even do that.
ALL MMORPGs are like that. Not just WoW. GW2 won't kill WoW.Hectix777 said:
WoW will kill itself. GW2 will attract alot of people though.
My opinion:
I played WoW for years, it's ruining itself with poor story, that they keep changing.
Unbalanced classes they're trying to fix. Accomplishing nothing but upsetting the player base over changes.
Changing the games endgame difficulty from casual to the opposite, for some classes that is. Which removes a lot of content many people want to experience, but just can't.
The player base is becoming very elitist through add-ons. Most requiring 3rd party programs such as Ventrillo or Teamspeak to play in Raids.
Unbalanced classes they're trying to fix. Accomplishing nothing but upsetting the player base over changes.
Changing the games endgame difficulty from casual to the opposite, for some classes that is. Which removes a lot of content many people want to experience, but just can't.
The player base is becoming very elitist through add-ons. Most requiring 3rd party programs such as Ventrillo or Teamspeak to play in Raids.
You may think WoW is bland but we know very well by this point that millions of people think it's worth £8 every month just to be a part of. While GW2 does look like it could be doing some smart things, so many MMOs have promised before that they're going to be a completely original experience and be the WoW-killer. I just don't believe that GW2 can come close to killing Blizzard's legacy.
You're incredibly naive if you think NCSoft provides money without having any influence on the game, no matter what the Arenanet hype-department might admit to.fundayz said:
The only thing that can kill WoW is Blizzard themselves, hopefully with a Starcraft-related MMO instead of just poor developer decisions (/glances in SoE's direction).
Notice how I said MMO not MMORPG, yes Guild wars will be a revolution in MMORPG terms but who's to say we can't have good quality MMO shooters or racing games or TBS, doesn't necessarily have to be an RPG but sadly major publishers seem to be ignoring this as the risk outweighs the likely reward.EmperorSubcutaneous said:I do hope you realize that that's exactly what GW2 is trying to do: be an MMO that's completely different from anything we've seen before, and nothing at all like a WoW variation. They're the company that's willing to take that gamble.Retronana said:I like to think that someday we'll get an MMO that's completely different that anything we've seen before, unfortunately no company is willing gamble that much money when they can get a safe return just making a WoW variation. Guild wars 2 will NOT outsell WoW in a million years, doesn't mean it won't be a massive success though, heres hoping
World Of Warcraft was old when it came out, now it's a relic. It will lose, because that's how market works - sooner or later it'll have to die, and Guild Wars 2 is new, pretty and shiny - it'll basically outlive WoW.
In precisely what way has WoW aged poorly? It's growing in subscriber base, having topped 12 million active subscribers. WoW has currently outlived quite a few more recent games, so I really don't understand why it would start dying now.theriddlen said:
There will be no vs situation since GW2 will follow its predecessor as being buy game play free (unless Anet has changed plans from last time i shown intrest in whole thing)
Thus owning GW2 does not kick wow out of picture since if you wish to buy time for Wow no problem since you wont lose anything when having GW2 on computer.
And anyway whats the big deal with people having the lust to go OMG THIS VS THIS.
And i wont vote since both can easily co-exists.
Thus owning GW2 does not kick wow out of picture since if you wish to buy time for Wow no problem since you wont lose anything when having GW2 on computer.
And anyway whats the big deal with people having the lust to go OMG THIS VS THIS.
And i wont vote since both can easily co-exists.