Poll: Homophobic Epidemic?

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dragonburner

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I myself am not homosexual but I have seen over the past two years an increase in the words "Gay" and "Fag" used as synonyms for stupid or annoying among all ages. Even 30 year old rapper Eminem is known for homophobic comments in his lyrics. I personaly don't like it as I think it is backwards logic and that the world should move forward towards tolerance. Now, I live in the United States. I have no idea if this occurs anywhere else. However, this article: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/23/bullying.suicide/index.html?iref=mpstoryview said that the boy who killed himself was teased being called "Gay." I have also seen this on a small scale with antisemitism.
 

IxionIndustries

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Yep, there is a homophobia outbreak going on. Anything remotely happy is considered gay. The sad thing is, there's no way of turning back.
 

SharPhoe

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Yeah, it's been happening for years. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way of stopping it. It's firmly rooted in the slang of today, so we can only hope people eventually outgrow it.
 

PurpleRain

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I think epidemic is not the correct word. I wouldn't say it is a problem either. I feel that there a lot more acceptance of all sexualities in todays word within the past century. On that note, I feel even the smallest amount of taunting like this or homophobia is a big problem.

I find generally, people that use these terms don't exactly know what they entitle and the background they have. Like kids that carve the swastika on things. They do it because it's common and easy to do. They don't understand the hate it brings. So when people cast these words, I don't feel like they directly mean any of it, they're just... idiots?
 

teisjm

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Homophobia is a problem, but i think the OP's point is a little wrong.

A lot of people just use the words as geneeric swear-words without any thoughts about sexuality behind it.

I wouldn't be suprised to hear one guy yell at another "you slept with my sister/girlfriend you fucking fag" or something along those lines. which would make little sense, but just stand as a testimony to the fact that the word is moving from beeing an insult against homosexual people to just beeing an insult.

I'm not saying this is good, all i say is that i don't think it's neccecerily means homophobia has increased.
 

dragonburner

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PurpleRain said:
I think epidemic is not the correct word. I wouldn't say it is a problem either. I feel that there a lot more acceptance of all sexualities in todays word within the past century. On that note, I feel even the smallest amount of taunting like this or homophobia is a big problem.
Personally in high school anything or anyone is "gay" or "a jew"
I think it is a problem because most of the world is looking to move forward minus the President of Iran.
 

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I'm a sixteen year old and I do say something is "gay" or someone is being "gay", but I wouldn't consider my self homphobic. When I'm refering to someone who is homosexual I usually say homosexual, or lesbian if they are female. I use "gay" along with the slang it has become part of. People may be offended but at my work there are plenty of lesbians and I have heard them say gay like that too.

Retard is similar in this way, I use "retard/retarded" in that kind of context but when I'm refering to someone who has a mental handicap I am more specific and will say mentally retarded/challenged or use a specific disability when referencing someone or having an intelligent conversation.
 

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FredFredburgur said:
I'm a sixteen year old and I do say something is "gay" or someone is being "gay", but I wouldn't consider my self homphobic. When I'm refering to someone who is homosexual I usually say homosexual, or lesbian if they are female. I use "gay" along with the slang it has become part of. People may be offended but at my work there are plenty of lesbians and I have heard them say gay like that too.

Retard is similar in this way, I use "retard/retarded" in that kind of context but when I'm refering to someone who has a mental handicap I am more specific and will say mentally retarded/challenged or use a specific disability when referencing someone or having an intelligent conversation.
Like I stated earlier, these words have strong and hate-filled meanings behind it. So, basically don't, because people either:
-Get offended
-Or think that you're an idiot for using those words irrationally.
 

Crash486

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The thing is, when you're a minority, there's always going to be a loud group of individuals who speak out against your group, be it sexual orientation, religion, whatever. Most of them are ignorant, and they don't represent the majority of Americans. However being as loud as they are they weild a good deal of influencial power.

Is there really a problem with homophobia? No more so than there is with racism or any other social injustice. The average citizen, and majority of people for that matter, are indifferent. Being indifferent means just that, they're not willing to fight for your cause, but they're not going to bring you down. They tend to be influenced by the loudest voice.

In the crusade for homosexual rights however, there are instances of homosexuals who are so outspoken for their cause that they alienate some of us indifferent people. I think that gets mistaken as homophobia, but really it has nothing to do with homosexuality. It has more to do with that individual's experiences with the radical actions made by outspoken members of the gay community.

You also have to remember though, in america, the good majority of the population is some denomination of Christianity. Most denominations of Christianity find homosexuality to be an unnattural practice. Once again though, I wouldn't say those people are necessarily homophobic. In fact... I don't really like the term homophobia. I think its a misnomer really, and many people groups of people get lumped in with the homophobic demographic who are not homophobic, simply believe differently from homosexuals. Just because someone doesn't agree with gay marriage, doesn't necessarily make them homophobic.

In regards to the OP, you have to remember that even though the term Gay was adopted by the homosexual community, it's not necessarily their word. Long before it was used to describe homosexuals, it had a completely different meaning. While I can understand homosexuals having problems with the word Gay being thrown around with negative connotation (as the origin of which probably does have to do with its association of the homosexual community), I think they should take into context the use of the word before being offended. Though... that's from the standpoint of an outsider looking in.

I don't think most people who use the term "gay" in a derogatory manner are really intending it to be malicious towards homosexual. I also don't understand why homosexuals embrace the term "queer" as that word has innate negative connotation. However, they seem to be content keeping that word as a label. Perhaps when people say gay, they associate it with the word queer as the negative connotation queer has. Not being used to describe homosexuals, but to say that is gay/queer/peculiar.

Anyway, flame on.
 

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PurpleRain said:
FredFredburgur said:
I'm a sixteen year old and I do say something is "gay" or someone is being "gay", but I wouldn't consider my self homphobic. When I'm refering to someone who is homosexual I usually say homosexual, or lesbian if they are female. I use "gay" along with the slang it has become part of. People may be offended but at my work there are plenty of lesbians and I have heard them say gay like that too.

Retard is similar in this way, I use "retard/retarded" in that kind of context but when I'm refering to someone who has a mental handicap I am more specific and will say mentally retarded/challenged or use a specific disability when referencing someone or having an intelligent conversation.
Like I stated earlier, these words have strong and hate-filled meanings behind it. So, basically don't, because people either:
-Get offended
-Or think that you're an idiot for using those words irrationally.
I think it is in generatino by generation because most of my peers are the same way, it may just be different groups of people coming from different backgrounds but the definitions of words can change over time, and some people will get offended but I don't have any hurtful feelings towards homosexuals or mentally handicapped people when I say "gay" or "retard/retarded", and I definitely wouldn't say anyone I talk to considers me an idiot for saying it, but obviously I'm not going to use words like that in front of my grandparents and I know who I'm saying what to.
 

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cball11 said:
Dude, tolerance is not saying politically correct things, it is allowing people to say and do whatever the fuck they want, so long as what they want doesn't stop anyone else from doing what they want. Live and let live, so long as your living does not prevent another from living. Ideally, according to the concept of tolerance, I can utter whatever slur I want, and so long as I say it without hate and say it without the goal of inciting violence, there's nothing wrong with it.
And the people who misunderstand this are the cause of much suffering and IL-logical ( reference to OP) behaviour that could be covered with the misnomer "positive discrimination".

When a black man says to his black friend "what's up my ******" he is not being racist, and when a guy says "you're a fag" to his friend who just beat him at street fighter he's not being racist either, words are just words, and it is only the intent behind their use that should be taken into consideration.

Not only does it never cease to amaze me how far people will take a cause that does not concern them, but that noone who IS affected by it ever asked for their support in the first place.
None of the gay people i have met have ever shown signs of mental distress because of modern slang use of the word fag, so would the OP and those in agreement please educate me as to why this is so detrimental to society as it semms to me like this is just a pet peeve of yours, and no more of a real problem than people who constantly misuse words like "ultimate" and "literally".
 

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As a homosexual, I will say that I think that homophobia in America is still rampant, and especially in the media, still widely accepted. There are Gays in parts of this country who cannot walk down the street for fear of violence. However, I do not think that the terms "gay" or "fag" necessarily cause or even add to homophobia. Slang is slang, people are going to say whatever they want without thinking because people are fucking stupid. I am not personally offended if someone says that something is gay. Hell, I even catch myself saying sometimes.
 

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veryboringfact said:
When a black man says to his black friend "what's up my ******" he is not being racist, and when a guy says "you're a fag" to his friend who just beat him at street fighter he's not being racist either, words are just words, and it is only the intent behind their use that should be taken into consideration.
This, the context in which the word is used deffinately needs to be taken into consideration before taking offense.

I have a gay friend who is a bit of an activist. Needless to say, he gets very offended whenever I use the word "gay" with a negative connation. Being sensitive to his feelings, I try very hard to not use it around him, but at times, it slips out because I've been using it for years. I know it upsets him, and i always apologize, but at the same time I wish he'd be a little more understanding that I don't mean him any offense by it.
 

Stewie Plisken

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I haven't noticed it, to be honest. I still see most people as the same ignorant, hateful d**kheads they were five or ten years ago.
 

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Isn't the diffinition of the word homophobic one who has an irrational fear of Homosexuals? And I think fear and hatred are too distinct things. I am sure there is a lot of hate directed towards homosexuals but fear is not the emotion I think the haters exude. In response to the OP, I think the words "******" and "gay" are now generic, negative nouns in this point in the society.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
Yes, it's annoying, and yes, it could be "a problem," but I can't think of a solution.
Ah, but the interent is where linguistic phenomena are born! I have a solution. I challenge all the people on this forum who are offended by the use of the term gay or fag in a negative connotation to come up with a different word that can be used in their stead.

Who knows, if its catchy enough, it might catch on. Hell... people even say "LOL" verbally now. It's not an impossibility.
 

Sphinx86

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Using "gay" meaning stupid or just as an insult was around when i was still in High school, and I graduated 5 years ago. Whether it's gotten worse I dunno, but its been used like that for more than just 2 or 3 years.
 

Elf Defiler Korgan

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As gamers we are part of a group within the population that is not always the most accepting, or wise in their choice of words. I would not call it an epidemic, just an enduring problem. I have in the past used 'gay' in a negative context. I've known a lot of people who have also done so, gamers in person, gamers on forums. We have all seen it. Course then when a friend comes out, and you reflect back, I can tell you, there is a bit of awkwardness "oh I mocked part of your identity for years, contributing to your insecurities. Shit, sorry".

Some good posts above though.
 

Donbett1974

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The word "Gay" originally meant a feeling of happiness or content but was taken by the homosexual community.And most people who use "Fag" use it to describe weakness not sexuality. The only thing worst than saying hurtful things is not being able to.
 

Paragon Fury

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MaxTheReaper said:
He's a fucking rapper. I expect him to be ignorant.
And talentless.
But that's another rant for another day.

Yes, it's annoying, and yes, it could be "a problem," but I can't think of a solution.
Fire. Or C4.

Fire and C4 are capable of containing or solving any problem you may have. EVER.

The only problem they can't solve is this:

"Would you like a large, or a small crater?"