Poll: Homosexuality

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Baradiel

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Zhandarr said:
Baradiel said:
This discussion reminded me of this. It pretty much sums up my feelings about bigots using an ancient text to justify their prejudice.

Fair warning, this song has foul language and might offend you if you're religious. I'm not even joking, if you can't take a joke don't watch this.

I adore that sexy Australian bastard.

In other news, I am rather tired of this topic coming up. People will answer one way, and another. It's just trawling through a thread of the same 2 posts spoken in slightly different ways. Ocassionally something interesting will come up, but still. Bleh. I'm going to add to the swamp of answers: I am a strong supporter of homosexuality because I'm bi myself. If your religion is against it, good for you. If you dislike the idea of two men or women together, good for you. If you think it's genetically or physically wrong, good for you. If you keep your homophobic business behind closed doors, we'll keep our homosexuality behind closed doors. Although I don't see anything wrong with a gay couple kissing or holding hands in public just as a straight couple would.
As do I!

And your point about this thread I also agree with. Its either people saying its wrong 1. but it's just their opinion, so can't be debated (my personal pet hate. If you can't justify your opinion why say it at all.) or 2. Their religion says it's wrong, which I find equally hilarious and simultaneously irritating.

But on a lighter note, you have people being more open minded, which sortof counter balances the prejudice. Just about.

Also, I completely agree with your actual point too.
 

DannibalG36

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You do realize that those of us who disapprove of homosexuality out of simple hatred can't say that we do without being bandhammer'd?

So, the only people who can explain their vote are those who are indifferent or supportive. This poll shoots itself in the foot.
 

ziggy161

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I'm indifferent. I don't care if people are homosexual but I am not. I hate people who bash being gay and I hate people who are overly gay in front of me for no reason.
 

Norris IV

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Im not gay but i support those who are, it's their choice, just like it's a choice to be Christian or a choice to buy coke, besides I like a bit of variety in culture :)
 

Baradiel

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DannibalG36 said:
You do realize that those of us who disapprove of homosexuality out of simple hatred can't say that we do without being bandhammer'd?
Do you?

And I can't imagine the mods would ban someone for expressing their opinion, if it was reasonably argued with decent points. If it was just "I hate gays!!!" I could understand them being smacked with the hammer.
 

Strixvaliano

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Im indifferent. I have no problem with what people do as long as it doesn't affect me, but I'm not going to go out of my way to support people either.
 

GoGrapefruit

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How does one suppport homosexuality? The way I see it, your either against it or your not.

Im not by the way
 

iraneyman

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I only mean to express why I have the views I have, I'd rather not get into an argument as to wither or not my views are based on something that you view as credible. There are many discussions on such subjects but those discussions are less than polite so let's leave those discussions to higher minds and decide the victors for ourselves.
 

Sudenak

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And for some real comedy:

Everyone who says they're against homosexuality because it says so in teh biblez are a bunch of flaming hypocrites.

Why aren't you selling your daughters? Or beating your slaves to within an inch of their life with a rod? Or doing nothing, including lighting a fire, on Sunday?

Oh right, because you only literally follow the bible when it doesn't inconvenience you too terribly to do so.

It's absurd that you can point out a flaming fuckton of quotes from the bible and get the response of "this is open to interpretation" or "this isn't meant to be taken literally", but once you get to the gay part it MUST BE TAKEN LITERALLY.

Like the story of Noah's Ark. Oh, so that's just a nice story not meant to literally mean every single animal on the entire planet. But the gay part? Totally literal. Talking snake? Metaphor.

I understand that it's difficult to look past dogma, but can't you wrap your mind around the fact that the exact same arguments were used to justify slavery and women not having equal rights? Is it truly God's One Word that he loves everybody but the gays?

And this is why I cannot fathom taking religion seriously. Because everyone can't seem to agree on what version of God they like the most. But they can agree that God would never allow a gay man into heaven for being gay.

Think about it. A gay man, let's say he's a kind man that ends up finding the cure for diabetes. He donates all of the money he earns and lives in poverty, just so he can help as many people as possible. He prays to God regularly and accepted Jesus. But because he has a boyfriend, God's gonna turn him away?

Yeah, I'll pass on that. As I said in the "what will hell be like" thread, I think hell's gonna kick ass. And be fabulous, given how many gay men and women will be prancing about. Have fun in boring old communion heaven with country music and Jerry Falwell, I'll be enjoying some death metal with my friends xP
 

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Verlander said:
Honestly not sure how people can be against it... how does the harmless act that other people do, affect you in any way?
Would it bother you if someone took a dump in their living room instead of in a toilet? =P

I am against homosexuality. NOT homosexuals. It's fine if you're gay, i really don't care, i just don't want anything to do with it. I treat it somewhat like the example above in that

1) it bothers me, and
2) i want no part part of it, but
3) it's none of my business.

I'm kinda curious why a sexual species (as opposed to asexual) would develop a type of physical attraction that doesn't help with having babies, but that's not bad, right?



What i dislike even more than homosexuality, however, is someone who claims sexuality isn't a choice, and then asks me if i care. Because if it isn't a choice, it shouldn't MATTER whether or not i care, it ain't gonna change anything. Which means you're only asking to try and make me feel bad.

And yeah, I don't wanna hear this 'gay pride' stuff. If you're shoving your sexuality in someone's face, you're not "being proud of homosexuality", you're being a slut.

...

*waits for the flames*

Oh, and I'm asexual. Nobody really attracts me.

@Sudenak: One part there looked like you said gays should be let into heaven on virtue of being gay for a second =P
 

Whateveralot

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I support homosexuality, but passively. I wouldn't want them to be descriminated because I hate the fact that people look upon homosexual people in a different way than they see straight people.

That's just strange. Shouldn't you only start caring when someone is interesting? It's the fear of the unknown that drives people to see a differene. They then blame them by saying: "he might start liking and it'll be really awkward", even though this doesn't bother anyone that talks to a straight person of the opposite gender. It's the double standards that I hate, therefor I support homosexuality the way I support straightness; by not being indifferent about thinking of it differently.
 

Trololo Punk

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Not homosexual my self but don't see any problem's with anyone being that way, especially since since it's not a choice.
 

Verlander

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HalfTangible said:
Verlander said:
Honestly not sure how people can be against it... how does the harmless act that other people do, affect you in any way?
Would it bother you if someone took a dump in their living room instead of in a toilet? =P

I am against homosexuality. NOT homosexuals. It's fine if you're gay, i really don't care, i just don't want anything to do with it. I treat it somewhat like the example above in that

1) it bothers me, and
2) i want no part part of it, but
3) it's none of my business.

I'm kinda curious why a sexual species (as opposed to asexual) would develop a type of physical attraction that doesn't help with having babies, but that's not bad, right?



What i dislike even more than homosexuality, however, is someone who claims sexuality isn't a choice, and then asks me if i care. Because if it isn't a choice, it shouldn't MATTER whether or not i care, it ain't gonna change anything. Which means you're only asking to try and make me feel bad.

And yeah, I don't wanna hear this 'gay pride' stuff. If you're shoving your sexuality in someone's face, you're not "being proud of homosexuality", you're being a slut.

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*waits for the flames*
The analogy falls apart when you work out that they aren't taking a dump in your living room. They may be taking a dump in your local park, and you may walk past it sometimes, but that's as close as the interaction goes.

What I don't understand, is if you're ok with homosexuals, what is it about their private life that you aren't ok with? That they stick their willys up each others bums, or scissor? Because man, I've slipped into a ladies nether regions before... but I'm straight.

The thing is, a lot of people like sexual acts that don't produce children. You like blow jobs? Babies don't happen that way! Hand jobs? The same! Using a condom, or going over a woman's boobies don't contribute to the gene pool either... so you don't do these things? 'Cos dude, you gotta try them, they're pretty fun!

I, along with various gay friends, don't like gay pride either. It's demeaning. It's similar to black history month in America, it's patronising, and a shell of what it once meant, but you know, sometimes people need to be in a community, regardless of their belief. Which is why moth atheists join up to the church of humanism, people need that group. For what it's worth, I live in a big city, which has a gay pride march, and I've never seen it once. It's pretty easy to avoid those things you know....
 

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ziggy161 said:
I'm indifferent. I don't care if people are homosexual but I am not. I hate people who bash being gay and I hate people who are overly gay in front of me for no reason.
Not to nitpick, but would you ever hate someone being overly heterosexual in front of you? Even though it was without reason?
I understand that your annoyance is probably meant mostly towards feminine men acting flamboyant or something, but still.

Changing the word 'homosexual' or 'gay' into 'heterosexual' in various common statements is a quick and simple thought experiment. It might lead to some revelations to just how far we are from sexual equality.


Back on topic, I support homosexuals and homosexuality enough that I definitely would have been bi if I only had managed to muster any urges for other men. Sorry, but you are simply not sexy, lads.