Poll: How do you see virgins?

[Christian Lerche]

Behind maturity.

 

[Flare Phoenix]

It's idiotic things like this topic that force so many people to have sex at such a young age. Now whether or not your first time is really that important I would have no idea as I am still a virgin myself, but making people feel like crap just because they haven't partaken in the meaningless act of sex is pathetic.

If you judge someone negatively purely because they are a virgin, then you deserve to be stabbed in the face.

Yeah, sex isn't exactly "meaningless", buddy. People have been writing songs and poems and books about how great it is since mankind learned to write. And since you haven't tried it, any judgement from you regarding it is both void and not a little bit suspect.

Now, of course peer pressure is stupid. But to go the opposite route isn't much smarter. And by the way, since you judge people and their activities, aggression on your side towards those who do the same thing - just from a different perspective - isn't really warranted. Except for nazis, communists, terrorists, rapists, child abusers, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, NOBODY deserves to be stabbed in the face.

People have also written books about vampires that glitter in sunlight... what's your point? Not all sex is meaningless, I never said that: it can be a pure expression of your love towards another person (not to mention to whole baby-making thing). But having sex just to have sex so society doesn't view you as a hopeless loser is meaningless in my opinion.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

well on a friend level, i couldn't care less really, cool if you've done it, if not, no big deal.

if i'm on the dating level though, as long as she hasn't had sex with a ridiculous amount of guys and her vag is a seeping pink bowl, i can roll with whatever

 

[Pointer]

Um, considering that seeing the status of someone's virginity is nigh impossible, I don't know either OP.

And yes I know what you mean

 

[Ledan]

It depends on why they're a virgin. I find the whole abstaining until marriage or even treating virginity as something special to be extremely pretentious.
"It is the infantile superstition of man that virginity be seen a virtue rather than the barrier separating ignorance from knowledge" - François-Marie Arouet
For the sake of argument I've tried to refute that, but I can't think of a single thing that makes willed ignorance virtuous.

Sex isn't knowledge, its an action. To say a virgin is ignorant is to say a man is ignorant because he never killed someone.

You are ignorant about death until you have personally killed something. Sure, you can think about it, but you won't know what it is until you've seen something die. Same as a roller coaster, you are ignorant about rollercoasters until you have ridden one.
Same for sex. You are ignorant about sex until you've had it. And since sex is one of the underlying emotions and desires of people, you are slightly ignorant about people until you have had it.

 

[dkyros]

With my eyes, duh.
Not really much different from normal people. If someone's a virgin its either a choice they've made and I respect. Or they haven't met the 'right' one and I can't argue with that. Or they have met the 'right' one and they let them get away. To these virgins I have to say stop sitting around and thinking things will just come to you naturally. You gotta make moves when you like a someone!
I don't care if someone is a virgin, wouldn't change my decision to date them. On the other end of a spectrum a slut is someone I wouldn't want to date. So I guess I would be more likely to date a virgin than a slut, but I just avoid sluts I don't go around asking ppl if they are virgins.

 

[balladofangels85]

With your eyes? But seriously. Virginity is stupid society made up thing that has become blown out of proportion. Who really cares? Only self conscience self absorbed people. Sex is fun, but it is overrated. So my answer to the question is that I see virgins the same way i see anyone else.

 

[HerrBobo]

I vote other.

Mainly, I could not care less and would not give one a sceond thought.

However, if it some guy who is in his 30's want sex but cant get any, I would cast a wee look of judgment. Its not that hard to get!

 

[Flare Phoenix]

well on a friend level, i couldn't care less really, cool if you've done it, if not, no big deal.

if i'm on the dating level though, as long as she hasn't had sex with a ridiculous amount of guys and her vag is a seeping pink bowl, i can roll with whatever

I wouldn't care how many previous partners she's had as long as she doesn't mention them. If we're in bed and she suddenly goes "Oh John did that differently" things are going to get a bit awkward...

 

[Mr. Google]

I view them as either people who havnt had the opportunity yet or people who for what ever reason want to wait till marriage not like they have a problem haha

 

[Duffeknol]

I'm extremely sexist in my views. Any male virgin over the age of 18... I can't really help but look down on them. I'm a pretty big nerd, and since even I managed to get laid, I believe that anyone can. I know this is unfair, I really do, but I'm being honest about it here. I'm sorry.

When it comes to girls, I love innocence. Girls should stay virgins for as long as possible. My fiancée and me waited 3 years, and we're not even religious. Again; it's a highly unfair view, but I'm just being honest.

 

[Vault101]

They are simply pathetic.
Social outcasts who cling to other avenues in the hope that the hole in their life will be filled through escapist actitivities.
I guess they would not see themselves as pathetic ( though some do) but I pity them.
Much like the pity for gollum who forgot the warmth of the sun and the taste of food.
The world is a harsh place and not everyone can be a winner at everything.
Oh and to the male cybergeeks who have cos play fantasy's and have Im'd me
I will not, I repeat, I will not dress you up like Catwoman, tie you up with Wonder Woman's Golden Lasso, and force you to confess your love for me! You really need help, perhaps even more help than I can possibly provide you. So go take a cold shower, put on some normal clothing, stand in front of a mirror and repeat the following one hundred times: "I am not a superheroine, my name is (your real name here)."

(assuming your not joking)

yeah those bloody virgins, really why do they even bother with life at all? seriously if you havnt lost it by the time your 21 then you should all be round up and shot execution style for contaminating the world with your pathetic virginess


ok but seriously how dose not having sex make you pathetic? its not liek sex is a huge acheivment as curing cancer, people are virgins for all kinds of reasons

I havnt done it, Im not saving it for marrage or that "special person" Its not really a big deal to me, Im just not particually social and therefore havnt really been in the situation and I certainly wouldnt go out and sleep with any random guy "just to have Ive done it" if you ask me THATS pathetic

oh but Im sorry but am I steping out of my place replying to you? being part of the glorious non-virgin master race?

 

[Flare Phoenix]

I'm extremely sexist in my views. Any male virgin over the age of 18... I can't really help but look down on them. I'm a pretty big nerd, and since even I managed to get laid, I believe that anyone can. I know this is unfair, I really do, but I'm being honest about it here. I'm sorry.

When it comes to girls, I love innocence. Girls should stay virgins for as long as possible. My fiancée and me waited 3 years, and we're not even religious. Again; it's a highly unfair view, but I'm just being honest.

You know what's good about putting yourself on such a high pedestal? Eventually someone is going to knock you off of it, and you'll be down here with all the regular people and you'll realize you're not as great as you think you are...

Wait... how the hell does that even work? Guys should have sex as long as possible but girls should hold off as long as possible? I don't know what you've learnt but its either one or the other... unless you're into having sex with animals but that's a completely different topic.

 

[v3n0mat3]

Depends on how they view sex, or relationships as a whole. I personally don't care. It's a choice, whether or not they go for it.

 

[Lilani]

I like the idea of someone who saves it for marraige. (or at least true love) I still hold on to my idealistic teenage beliefs about sex being something to hold in high regard. Sure its easy to get, but it wont mean as much if its easy all the time.

I like your outlook on things.

I once saw a speaker compare casual sex to duct tape. He took a strip of duct tape, and put it on the arm of a random audience member in the front row. Then, he peeled it off. The person said it hurt, and it left a red mark. Then he went to the person next to them, and stuck the piece on them. He peeled it off, and they said it hurt a little. He went all down the front row doing this, until the piece of tape didn't stick at all anymore.

He explained the point of that was to demonstrate how casual sex felt to him when he did it as a teenager. Sure, it was great at first, but because there was no love or emotion behind it, it just lost is potency, until it wasn't anything special anymore.

 

[Flare Phoenix]

People have also written books about vampires that glitter in sunlight... what's your point? Not all sex is meaningless, I never said that: it can be a pure expression of your love towards another person (not to mention to whole baby-making thing). But having sex just to have sex so society doesn't view you as a hopeless loser is meaningless in my opinion.

Well, first off, there is a difference between a hack like Stephenie Meyer and the greatest poets the world's ever known. Sex is the central theme of Goethe's Faust and Boccaccio's Decameron, two of the best and most important literary works in the history of Western culture - among many, MANY others.

As for the rest, I misunderstood you, and I apologise. I thought you meant that the act was per se meaningless.

But yeah, while sex even just for the sake of sex can be great, having sex just to get rid of peer pressure is stupid, especially since it demeans the act. We're absolutely agreed on that. I like what they used to do in Italy: When a boy turned 14, his dad or uncle would take him to a whorehouse, just so the kid got it out of his system. Any pressure was gone, and he could treat sex like a normal aspect of life.

How DARE you insult hacks...

Don't worry about it. I probably didn't express myself very well (it tends to happen quite a bit).

 

[Duffeknol]

I'm extremely sexist in my views. Any male virgin over the age of 18... I can't really help but look down on them. I'm a pretty big nerd, and since even I managed to get laid, I believe that anyone can. I know this is unfair, I really do, but I'm being honest about it here. I'm sorry.

When it comes to girls, I love innocence. Girls should stay virgins for as long as possible. My fiancée and me waited 3 years, and we're not even religious. Again; it's a highly unfair view, but I'm just being honest.

You know what's good about putting yourself on such a high pedestal? Eventually someone is going to knock you off of it, and you'll be down here with all the regular people and you'll realize you're not as great as you think you are...

I already said that it's an unfair view. That's the opposite of bragging. Still attacking me over something I KNOW is a stupid point of view is, well, stupid.

 

[jhlip]

I view them as someone who has not had sex. Their reason is their own, I'm not going to judge them one way or another.

That should have ended the thread right there.

 

[Deviluk]

I hate to admit it, but I do feel a certain sense of superiority over virgins. Just because most of my friends are, and they've always been the proud, snooty type, and me having something that they don't always irked them. Or being better than them at something. So most virgins I know are passively jealous. Although my best friend who has had sex is jealous, because I have sex within a stable relationship, and he's only had a few drunken slings that didn't even last till the next morning.

All in all, I have very little regard to this distinguisher, but my feelings at all are that they lose a little of my respect. Relationships are a very worthwhile pursuit, anyone who thinks otherwise tends to be kidding themselves.

 

[Flare Phoenix]

I'm extremely sexist in my views. Any male virgin over the age of 18... I can't really help but look down on them. I'm a pretty big nerd, and since even I managed to get laid, I believe that anyone can. I know this is unfair, I really do, but I'm being honest about it here. I'm sorry.

When it comes to girls, I love innocence. Girls should stay virgins for as long as possible. My fiancée and me waited 3 years, and we're not even religious. Again; it's a highly unfair view, but I'm just being honest.

You know what's good about putting yourself on such a high pedestal? Eventually someone is going to knock you off of it, and you'll be down here with all the regular people and you'll realize you're not as great as you think you are...

I already said that it's an unfair view. That's the opposite of bragging. Still attacking me over something I KNOW is a stupid point of view is, well, stupid.

Making a stupid point and not expecting someone to call you up on it purely because you stated it to be an "unfair point" is kind of stupid as well. If you knew it was a stupid point of view, why express it?