Oh no, I understand that the addition was to try and curb all the dragon types that were outraging everyone into oblivion, just saying that all the work that smogon has done is basically thrown out the window. And it's not a resistance, fairy is flat out immune to dragon.LittleJoeRambler said:Maybe they thought Dragon was too powerful? I think one of the main reasons for the addition of Dark and Steel type in 2nd gen was how powerful Psychic was, so both of the new types resisted it (and Dark super effective against it). If Fairy is immune to Dragon maybe it's supposed to be a check to an overpowered type.Zepherus14 said:Smogon is going to have a hell of a time dealing with the new fairy type. It's almost like nintendo got into their folders, picked them up and looked them over. Then they glanced over at smogon. "That's a very nice tier system you've got there." before throwing it out a window.LittleJoeRambler said:One-off surprise Draco Meteor against a physical wall? I dunno, that's a puzzler.elvor0 said:It's such a shame MegaGarchomp is so naff, minus speed but plus ATK and SPA? What insane bizzarro universe did that decision come from? I understand +ATK/-Speed, but who on earth wants special attack on garchomp? Still I wuv my Garchomp, had him since pearl and aint looked back since.Mirrorknight said:People using legendary annoys me. I used to play Colosseum online, and I'd get people that use Dialga and Giratina teams. Fortunately, I had Garchomp: Destroyer of Legends. 9/10 times he and my Absol would end such teams easily. The other time the person would ragequit. There's always a counter, even for legendary teams.
In any case, Smogon's tier system is probably the best for deciding what is and isn't allowed for battles between friends. From both perspectives; it's not all that fun to get stomped, but neither is it rewarding to crush someone without challenge.
Still can't believe jigglypuff can sit through a Outrage from a Garchomp and live completely unharmed.
Problem with that theory is that Dragon is nowhere near as powerful as Psychic was back in the day. I don't know.
This is true, though not sure it's worth the effort of training one up for that sole purpose, as amusing as it would be I just wanted to digivolve my Garchomp into something where I could keep a similar sort of build to what I already have. Though saying that I assume they'll enable Garchomp to learn more special moves if they're planning on making MegaGarchomp a hybrid stat wise.LittleJoeRambler said:One-off surprise Draco Meteor against a physical wall? I dunno, that's a puzzler.elvor0 said:It's such a shame MegaGarchomp is so naff, minus speed but plus ATK and SPA? What insane bizzarro universe did that decision come from? I understand +ATK/-Speed, but who on earth wants special attack on garchomp? Still I wuv my Garchomp, had him since pearl and aint looked back since.Mirrorknight said:People using legendary annoys me. I used to play Colosseum online, and I'd get people that use Dialga and Giratina teams. Fortunately, I had Garchomp: Destroyer of Legends. 9/10 times he and my Absol would end such teams easily. The other time the person would ragequit. There's always a counter, even for legendary teams.
In any case, Smogon's tier system is probably the best for deciding what is and isn't allowed for battles between friends. From both perspectives; it's not all that fun to get stomped, but neither is it rewarding to crush someone without challenge.
I'd have gone with dark pulse for STAB and to prevent it being taunt fodder for normal types. But umbreon can be a nasty thing to deal with in doubles with the right things, I paired it with my toxic/rest/sub/wrap shuckle.MCerberus said:I had an Umbreon with toxic, confuse ray, moonlight, and shadow ball. It was the Teemo of my squad.SkarKrow said:Shuckle + Umbreon.WenisPagon said:No legendaries, all Shuckle, final destination.
Poison.
Stall for fucking eternity.
OT: I never really bother using them as they aren't very fun in game, competitively you should fight him witha proper ubers team.
And a fucking Wobbuffet.
He shall know the wrath of the miscellaneous turquoise blob.