Poll: http://www.conservapedia.com - people really agree with this?
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Well, Atheists bother because they believe that this is the only chance they get to live, thus they enjoy the one life they have. Is that really hard to understand? (I am Buddhist btw, so I am very much in the same boat)Eisenfaust said:
???, Atheists haven't helped ?? Charles Darwin was an Atheist and he discovered the theory of evolution and in turn as helped us understand creatures and how they adapted and behaved which lead to learning how to anatomy a whole lot better and learning how to cure a lot of what at that time were know as incurable deceases, Atheist figured out that people were actually being cured but they had taken ill, Atheists realised that the people they were burning, hanging and drowning were not actually witches. I could go on about this for ever.Eisenfaust said:
Edit: Ho and it's not Atheists that see no point to life, your talking about nihilists completely different. Personally I'd say I'm Agnostic, I don't know if there is or isn't a God, I just personally don't give a shit.
i was talking about with this question i'm posing, not in life in general... *slow clap*Sovvolf said:
it wasn't so much that i don't understand that they want to live a full life and enjoy it, blah blah blah, it was that i was questioning they're motives behind it... my ultimate point was "you won't remember, so why bother?" i just makes more logical sense to me that they wouldn't worry about it... but i can't know because i'm not an athiest so i can't really see it from their perspective...Lunar Shadow said:
WHICH IS WHY I ASKED THE DAMN QUESTION IN THE FIRST PLACE! (sorry lunar, thats not yelling at you...)
Well, that's the point, we won't remember it. Thus we enjoy it while we can. Because of the belief that nothing is awaiting them Atheists are motivated by the fact that this life is all that they have and because they won't remember it is why they are motivated to enjoy it.Eisenfaust said:
Well, I tried, but I don't know how else to explain it.Eisenfaust said:
But that's simply not true. Atheists have goals in life. In life, not after life. We're just as motivated to work to better ourselves as any other normal human being.
We don't think "there's no point" which I tried to make clear several times.
As somebody else said, you're confusing atheists with nihilists.
Dammit, you just shattered my entire universe.Graustein said:
Back on the topic of Eisenfaust, what the hell man? The only answer they can possibly give you is "We don't care if there's no afterlife, we live for the moment" but you just go in circles with "No...that's not...a good answer...atheists...are cowards..." What do you want them to say?
Conservapedia, or as I like to call it "Old Faithful" hasn't run afowl by making this declaration. Sounds pretty spot on to me, no reason to argue semantics. Besides, isn't this the sentiment of the "public-at-large"? If that's the case, I would say that takes precedent over a Webster definition. Just like how everyone who is against gay marriage is "homophobic". Definitions don't hold as much water as public opinion.
Atheism is just the disbelief in God, Gods, Goddesses, or any deity.
It's not denial if it doesn't exist.
I seriously don't believe how people are quick to discredit rumors of Aliens, Big Foot, Lochness Monster, and the Chuppacabra, yet they go and worship a fucking fairy tale supernatural being.
It's like in Children of the Corn and how they believe in "The Provider." It's the same as any other religion (apart from the sacrificing) They all believe in some all knowing being that watches over everything. I don't understand how people believe in it. It's the same as believing in Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny.
Fuck, the Easter Bunny is more believable than God.
It's not denial if it doesn't exist.
I seriously don't believe how people are quick to discredit rumors of Aliens, Big Foot, Lochness Monster, and the Chuppacabra, yet they go and worship a fucking fairy tale supernatural being.
It's like in Children of the Corn and how they believe in "The Provider." It's the same as any other religion (apart from the sacrificing) They all believe in some all knowing being that watches over everything. I don't understand how people believe in it. It's the same as believing in Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny.
Fuck, the Easter Bunny is more believable than God.
You seem to be under the impression all atheists think "there's no point". You are wrong, and I don't think you quite understand what it is you're arguing about.Eisenfaust said:
The motive is to have as much kick-assedry in one lifetime as possible. It doesn't have to last forever to be worth it, but I'm sure you'll just say that's not an answer, make some vague reference to a philosopher you know, and how atheists are idiots or something.Eisenfaust said:
Now, here's a question for you: If you've got an afterlife to look forward to, that is so magnificent and grand that your current life will hardly matter, why not just snuff it and get right to it? Why bother with this life at all?
Not to derail the thread, but yes, that is exactly what I said. Not everyone who is against gay marriage is afraid or feels contempt toward homosexuals. Frankly, there isn't even anything to argue, because it would be incredibly hard to prove millions upon millions of people are homophobic, unless somebody can read the minds of all the proponents of our standard marriage system.Antlers said:
The point I was trying to get across, however, is you can argue all day about a dictionary definiton of a word, but what matters most is what the general public percieves a word to mean.
Uh what. Suicide is for the weak.Eisenfaust said:
I can't talk for others, but I have devised a system in which I simply enjoy existing - this allows me to be extremely happy while others are normally happy, and be less depressed when someone else would be weeping their eyes out. The average effects are akin to being slightly high/drunk, because I am pretty much never sad.
So this "pain" you are talking about does not exist to me, specifically because, not in spite of, that nothing matters. Nothing matters, so why not be happy? No reason to be sad.
Because of this, I have come to the conclusion that all of humanity are idiots or cowards, sometimes both.
Ah, Conservapedia, once again adding evidence to my thesis that conservative can be funny, but only if they're not trying. For extra fun, try this experiment. On one tab/window open Wikipedia, and on the other Conservapedia. Now, think of something that is not at all politically charged. Here, I'll help: Birds, Igneous Rock, Tungsten, etc. Now enter those things into both encyclopedias. While Wikipedia probably has a respectable amount of information, Conservapedia, if it has anything at all, will have a laughably terse entry. You'll be luck if you get more than a paragraph.
Well, obviously. We're talking different sized userbases and different themes. If you expect Conservapedia to tell you all about tectonic plates, you may have a few screws loose, right?somekindarobot said: