Poll: Hunting

[Beowulf DW]

go kill a grizzly with a buck knife THEN ill say your a man.

So what would you say about this guy?

I would say that the stupid bastard was hyped up on adrenaline to the point that he didn't realize that he could made a run for it while the bear was stunned.

My dad once encountered a mother black bear while he was hiking. He had already shot a buck, so the only weapon he had was his bowie knife (that thing is huge, by the way). He jumped into a creek bed before the bear saw him and remained there until it went away.

 

[Blue Sonnet]

Louis Theroux went onto a ranch, I think in Africa, where rich Americans (mainly) paid thousands of dollars to kill endangered species, including lions. That is an extreme that there is absolutely NO need for.


(I'm pretty sure it was Louis anyway, not 100%. He tries to have a go at what he is reporting on for the sake of objective journalism - he could have liposuction with no problem but he couldn't do this.)

 

[Death Magnetic]

I don't think I could kill an animal with a free conscience but I sure could eat it. I would be a vegetarian if I could though.

-Ricky

 

[SneakyBawls]

I don't hunt. But believe me it's not out of some heart felt connection to nature's little creatures. I just don't have the patience. Anyone who has hit a deer with their car tends to lose a lot of compassion. LOL But going to deer camp and getting drunk....yeah I'm up for that.

 

[Wyatt]

go kill a grizzly with a buck knife THEN ill say your a man.

So what would you say about this guy?

id say he became the hunted rather than the hunter. i allways enjoy seeing the tables turned on idiots and judging from reading the comments he was in bear country letting his dogs run wild, as one commentator said thats not a smart thing to do. ive had a few encounters with black bears here where i live and for the most part they are very passive. but they DO hate dogs for some reason and add in the mother/cubs thing, well .... too bad the bear and her cubs had to die because he was a moron.

when people get attacked by animals its allways the persons falt in my opinion. animals simply dont know any better and act on instinct. its PEOPLE that should know better. if your so importiant that you cant educate yourself in the least little bit about the animals/enviroment around you than you diserve your fait if your hurt.
and that includes ANY animals even just Dogs and cats.

 

[joystickjunki3]

Killing an animal w/o eating it afterwards or w/o killing it for the sake of defense is wrong. If you kill animals purely for the fun of it, then is it wrong for me to hunt and kill you just for kicks?

I enjoy hunting, but I'll just go shoot targets if all I want to do is shoot something.

EDIT: Also, as hypothetical fact said below this post, if the animal is of an endangered species, then don't kill it unless it's in defense. I added that second part about the defense, though.

 

[hypothetical fact]

As long as you use the corpse for food and the animal isn't an endangered species it's ok. But the hunter should also do the work; I am disgusted at those English fox hunts where they release a swarm of dogs to do all the work, then ride in on horses to congratulate each other.

 

[Mr. Payne]

No, we have already done ENOUGH damage to creature's with possibility to have a chance at evolution, and we ourselves uhh... Have prejudice and genocide, so we dont evolve mutch. Like how our anscestors killed off the Neanderthals.. Thats just SICK. Thats beyond the human domancy madness, thats downright wrong. call me what you will, but hunting is a no-no to me, unless it is necesarry. Joy-hunting is immoral and a disgrace to the "human mission". It is literally inhumane. Why, would you shoot your beloved dog if you went wolf hunting the day after he went missing, and didnt notice that the wolf your hunting is your best friend? Hmm?

And before my new age troll bretheren rip me to shreds, please note the use of the word "unnecessary" as in if you need to do it, its fine.

 

[Wyatt]

if you dont live in the country surrounded by hoards of animals you shouldnt be so quick too judge hunting in a compleatly bad light. i argue against the attitude of what i think of as killers but i dont argue against hunting. there are those people who do it in a sporting way and are in fact not hurting the ecology but helping it. my only issue is with halfwhits that think sport is shooting from a truck while half drunk and then spending time telling lies to everyone they know about what a hero they are.

i live in deer country. and with no natural predators besides man deer become a HUGE problem. and yes i know that man was the reason the ecology got screwed up in the first place, but that doesnt do anything to fix it now. they are either gunna die by deer hunting or they are gunna die by starvation or traffic accident. id rather see a quick gun shot to the heart for a few of a herd than a slow starvation for all of them due to over population.

 

[Damien the Pigeon]

My view is that if you are going to hunt, you better eat EVERYTHING you kill. Otherwise, you're just getting pleasure (and not food) out of killing a living thing. I find that pretty sick and perverse.

sums up my thoughts exactly.

my other thought on the argument is this; it's unfair. you get a .50 cal rifle and what does the deer have, NOTHING! i only accept hunting for sport if you even the playing field: going against a deer with your bare hands or something. even then you should still eat the meat.

I agree with that, too. In addition, for all those saying that people should use a bow and arrow or a crossbow instead of a gun to level the playing field a bit, you had better be damn good with those weapons, because if you stick five arrows or bolts in a deer and it's still not dead, then it's suffering pretty badly.

 

[Wyatt]

very true. but atleast the deer stands a chance of escape. some of the better hunters in my family bow hunt and more than one season they have gotten nothing at all. its not easy to get close enough to a deer with a bow to kill it. my family has wracked up as many as 20 too 25 deer combined between the 16 that hunt with rifle and black powder weapons, and the 4 that bow hunt have had years when none of them have gotten anything or at most 1 deer.

i find that generaly if they can even get close enough for a shot in the first place they can make a clean kill. a deer is more apt to suffer from a rifle hunter that shoots and hits but doesnt kill and is to lazy to track it and finish it. unless its got a 30 point rack of corse then they will call in the hounds and a search party that would make any missing child efforts pale by comparison.

 

[insane44]

I am a hunter everybody I know hunts from this experience I would have to say hunting is fine if you eat what you killed, if you kill for fun that is'nt right

 

[SkinnySlim]

I love hunting, I killed a deer last month and it was awesome. Except, there was only one bad thing I hated about it. (Actually this a my fault, so it doesn't happen all the time.)

Gutshots. Oh God, gutshots. I don't think there is anything worse than I gutshot I made that morning.

After I shot the buck, we went down to pick it up and put it on the cart attached to the truck when I saw where the bullet went. "My dad says, "That there's a gutshot." At the time I didn't really care but when we got back to the water hose-cleaning station thing, we started gutting it. As soon as we opened it up, out came the most horrible stench on the planet.

I hadn't realized how bad the gutshot wound was at first, but when we cut it open, out came shit, corn, grass, and blood.

IT WAS SO DISGUSTING

You wanna know what's worse than a gut shot? How about getting one in the spine? That just about broke me as a hunter, seeing the animal suffer, trying to run on only it's front legs, and hearing that damn bleating, it shook me up so bad it took me a moment to finish the job. That is one thing I always warn folks about. Took me years to climb back into a tree stand.
As far as sport hunting, "pure" hunters are lying their asses off if they say it's only about the food. Who doesn't pass on an imperfect rack on a buck, waiting for that beaut 14 pointer to come around? Sure, you shoot that doe for the good meat, but you shoot that buck for the rack, the meat is just secondary. And sure, coyotes are a pest, but who hunts them for that reason? Is it not because they are damn smart animals, and taking one down is more about a feeling of "I outsmarted him!" Or how about the fun of calling in a big ol fat Thom, or calling in those geese/ducks? It's every bit as much about sport as it is about eating or controlling pests. If it was about meat, you would only shoot doe's as they taste better. If it was about controlling pests, you would only shoot the sick and lame. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get some shut eye so I can go smoke me a couple rabbits in the morning, both because it's damn fun, and because they are so damn tasty...

 

[DeathsAmbassador]

me and my Dad go bow hunting for deer whenever we can, we always the deer we catch it. I enjoy hunting, not necessarily the actual hunt but rather just getting out of the house and doing something outdoors.

 

[chronobreak]

go kill a grizzly with a buck knife THEN ill say your a man.

So what would you say about this guy?

I would say that the stupid bastard was hyped up on adrenaline to the point that he didn't realize that he could made a run for it while the bear was stunned.

My dad once encountered a mother black bear while he was hiking. He had already shot a buck, so the only weapon he had was his bowie knife (that thing is huge, by the way). He jumped into a creek bed before the bear saw him and remained there until it went away.

I was under the impression it wasn't a good idea to run from a bear. I mean, I probably would, but maybe I wouldn't be alive like this guy is. He put up a fight, which took some serious balls, and took out the threat to his life, just like any animal might do. "Stupid bastard" isn't a good thing to say about someone, as well. He was smart enough to do what he had to in order to stay alive.

 

[Booze Zombie]

Enless you're going to actually use the animal for something, there's no physical point to killing it.

 

[SkinnySlim]

Well, unless you notice some starving buzzards nearby. They gotta eat too, you know...

 

[Booze Zombie]

Yeah, but generally they just wait for a truck or bear to show up and greet a woodland animal.

 

[dalek sec]

As long as the hunter makes good use of the animal up you kill I really don't care.

 

[RyantheLion]

I think as long as it's balanced, and the hunter uses the animal that he kills, I think it's ok. It's no less cruel then how we get beef, pork and chicken. Plus if there is an overpopulation of deer, thining out their numbers helps other deer, and keeps them from starving to death.

I agree.