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Legend of J

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You're close. It isn't hype. But the hype is there. The hype is mass marketing and advertising. It has to be there so every piece of media can earn a return on it's multi-million dollar investment.

Its something I was talking about recently and it's the reason I like 80's movies in general.

The costs of production with many types of media have grown exponentially over the years. Movies are a great example. These days, movies are averaging HUGE budgets- it's even happening to video games- such an enormous investment, that every facet of it becomes scrutinized, market tested, generalized, and tweaked for the largest possible sales numbers.

It isn't creative anymore, it's purely business.

You wind up with movies that cost tens of millions to make that aren't really but not necessarily good. Very bland. Very careful. Very unadventurous. Regurgitated, safe material that sells well enough to earn a return.

Not so long ago, when movies were often made for less than ten million dollars did quite well, the creative license and artistic expression was there because the studios didn't have to live in fear of being bankrupted by expensive projects no one wanted to see. The price of media has been pretty constant over the years, over decades.

A nintendo game in 1986 cost me 50 or 60 bucks. It's not much different 24 years later. But the cost to produce them has skyrocketed. Everything is, much more careful, much more precise, soft and happy.

Consequently- I don't buy much media any more.

There will be a revival soon enough. The current model will not self-sustain indefinitely.
Legion could be a prime example big budget on a B movie style film on saying that it was good till the last 15-20 minutes.
 

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Legend of J said:
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I usually avoid hype, as it does tend to skew your opinion on things, for better or worse.

I try to only get hyped for things that have established a reputation for being good, even though that can lead to you getting burned as well. (I'm looking at you, Star Wars prequels.)

Take Red Dead Redemption, for instance... I enjoy Rockstar's previous open-world sandbox games, and they, in my opinion, have only improved with each outing. Thus, I am pumped for the release of this game.
What about gta4? see that was overhyped then i played it and i was like what? it was good but not the BEST gta 4 game lol.
In your opinion. I'm not defending mine anymore.
Your entitled to it i wount try to say "Oh you like gta 4 GTFO you like it i don't its simple lol".
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Hype is created by people, not the game or movie itself. If you let a game or movie get ruined by hype, it's your own fault for not being clever enough to ignore the hype. I learned my lesson with Spore.
One man's opinion.

Here's another! (My own.)

I will never play Halo. Any of it. Because nobody will EVER shut up about it. More than fanhood, they decided to take it to the obsessive level and for what? It's just a war between aliens and humans. Plenty of those around. I'm sure the Halo series is actually pretty good, but let's just face it... I like Fallout better!
 

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Please, friend: They're called commas and dots. Use them. It's free.

On subject: If a movie is good, I like it. If it isn't, I don't. It's not like I enjoy it less than I would have otherwise just because it's been hyped.
If you want to be a grammer nazi fair enough but im half typing the stuff so i cba to get every little sentance right and just for that ill add alittle less punctuation :D
 

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Hype annoys the hell out of me, but then I'm biased, I suppose. A lot of the things I love are very underrated, and a lot of the things I hate are hyped to hell and gone.
 

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Brad Shepard said:
i dont know, borderlands was hyped befor it came out and its great.
I havent yet to play that so NO opinion All ive heard is it was hyped up to be amazing BUT when it came out i heard loads of negative things about it (this hasent stopped me wanting to play it) cause what most of my mates say about whats good and whats not i tend not to listen to (only a few i will).
 

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lilmisspotatoes said:
Hype annoys the hell out of me, but then I'm biased, I suppose. A lot of the things I love are very underrated, and a lot of the things I hate are hyped to hell and gone.
My favorite movie had no hype at all "Jade warrior".
 

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Well Tvtropes says other wise [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity]

But really, it depends on the Game. and just how much they are putting if it's something like Fable.....So yeah [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoYeah]
 

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Darth Caelum said:
Well Tvtropes says other wise [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity]

But really, it depends on the Game. and just how much they are putting if it's something like Fable.....So yeah [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoYeah]
I don't rember to much hype on fable 1 i just got it given off my mate when i bought his xbox but he told me to get KOTOR.
 

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Legend of J said:
Brad Shepard said:
i dont know, borderlands was hyped befor it came out and its great.
I havent yet to play that so NO opinion All ive heard is it was hyped up to be amazing BUT when it came out i heard loads of negative things about it (this hasent stopped me wanting to play it) cause what most of my mates say about whats good and whats not i tend not to listen to (only a few i will).
theres only one thing i need you to do when playing this game, you must have friends, the game is boring as pissing if you dont have buddys playing with you, i played this game with a friend and it was a blast and a half.
 

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Legend of J said:
lilmisspotatoes said:
Hype annoys the hell out of me, but then I'm biased, I suppose. A lot of the things I love are very underrated, and a lot of the things I hate are hyped to hell and gone.
My favorite movie had no hype at all "Jade warrior".
Never even heard of it, heh...
 

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Cowabungaa said:
Hype is created by people, not the game or movie itself. If you let a game or movie get ruined by hype, it's your own fault for not being clever enough to ignore the hype. I learned my lesson with Spore.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
 

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FalloutJack said:
One man's opinion.

Here's another! (My own.)

I will never play Halo. Any of it. Because nobody will EVER shut up about it. More than fanhood, they decided to take it to the obsessive level and for what? It's just a war between aliens and humans. Plenty of those around. I'm sure the Halo series is actually pretty good, but let's just face it... I like Fallout better!
I don't get that. What does the game itself have to do with the hype? Why even care what other people have to say about it, why would their opinion be important enough for you to not play Halo because of that opinion. Why let them influence you?
Legend of J said:
See iron man 2 im not as excited about now. Red dead looks good mainly cause all my mates hated the first one so they didn't do what they done with fable 2 "Fable 2 you can do everythink" Then when you play it, it isn't that great lol but still enjoyable.
Iron Man 2:

That will be all.

Though the fact that Stark is the most ballsy superhero ever (gotta love that cocky bastard) and the fact that there are a lot of explosions and pewpewpewdakkadakkadakka helps as well.
 

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lilmisspotatoes said:
Legend of J said:
lilmisspotatoes said:
Hype annoys the hell out of me, but then I'm biased, I suppose. A lot of the things I love are very underrated, and a lot of the things I hate are hyped to hell and gone.
My favorite movie had no hype at all "Jade warrior".
Never even heard of it, heh...
Exactly lol it has NO hype at all.
 

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Legend of J said:
Darth Caelum said:
Well Tvtropes says other wise [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity]

But really, it depends on the Game. and just how much they are putting if it's something like Fable.....So yeah [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoYeah]
I don't rember to much hype on fable 1 i just got it given off my mate when i bought his xbox but he told me to get KOTOR.
I used it as an example. If the Hype is too much, and the game fails in delivering, then i consider it bad hype. and that it does not give away too much of the plot.
 

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Cowabungaa said:
FalloutJack said:
One man's opinion.

Here's another! (My own.)

I will never play Halo. Any of it. Because nobody will EVER shut up about it. More than fanhood, they decided to take it to the obsessive level and for what? It's just a war between aliens and humans. Plenty of those around. I'm sure the Halo series is actually pretty good, but let's just face it... I like Fallout better!
I don't get that. What does the game itself have to do with the hype? Why even care what other people have to say about it, why would their opinion be important enough for you to not play Halo because of that opinion.
Legend of J said:
See iron man 2 im not as excited about now. Red dead looks good mainly cause all my mates hated the first one so they didn't do what they done with fable 2 "Fable 2 you can do everythink" Then when you play it, it isn't that great lol but still enjoyable.
Iron Man 2:

That will be all.

Though the fact that Stark is the most ballsy superhero ever (gotta love that cocky bastard) and the fact that there are a lot of explosions and pewpewpewdakkadakkadakka helps as well.
I wounder if he will get drunk off his ass in this one. See i wasent a big follower of Iron man and Cpt america and a few other big names in marvel. However i think the punisher is my favorite comic book 'anti-hero' but the only times ive seen tony stark in the comics (when hes crossed over into other things) hes drunk off his arse.
 

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Darth Caelum said:
Legend of J said:
Darth Caelum said:
Well Tvtropes says other wise [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity]

But really, it depends on the Game. and just how much they are putting if it's something like Fable.....So yeah [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SoYeah]
I don't rember to much hype on fable 1 i just got it given off my mate when i bought his xbox but he told me to get KOTOR.
I used it as an example. If the Hype is too much, and the game fails in delivering, then i consider it bad hype. and that it does not give away too much of the plot.
Thats a really good point its like some trailers for the movie e.g new moon you watch that you see EVERYTHINK what happens in the movie. But somethink like saw the trailers now show nothing e.g 6 it just had the words like 6 choices 6 blah blah blah. either way it showed you NOTHING. (they may of changed it for the dvd.
 

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Cowabungaa said:
FalloutJack said:
One man's opinion.

Here's another! (My own.)

I will never play Halo. Any of it. Because nobody will EVER shut up about it. More than fanhood, they decided to take it to the obsessive level and for what? It's just a war between aliens and humans. Plenty of those around. I'm sure the Halo series is actually pretty good, but let's just face it... I like Fallout better!
I don't get that. What does the game itself have to do with the hype? Why even care what other people have to say about it, why would their opinion be important enough for you to not play Halo because of that opinion.
The inverse proportion of the mouth versus the brain. If everyone plays Halo, then I should play, right? If everyone plays WoW, then I should get an account, right? If everyone is hooked on smack, crack, and booze, then I'd better go under for the eighteenth time, am I right?

Wrong.

If everybody's singing its praise, then it might be good, but it can't be THAT good. But then, why are the voices so loud? If hype means nothing, why do it? If I should ignore it, then other people don't need to SAY anything. But...people being people...have to blather. And that gets on the nerve. If you don't understand, then I believe you haven't been talked to by enough dumb people. Nobody, short of Buddhist monks, are THAT tolerant. And if you ARE such a monk, whachu doin' on the internet, yo?

Bearing in mind, of course, that you're really looking for logic in the wrong place, and an argument with the wrong guy.
 

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I don't really get hyped about games unless they belong to my favorite series', and then I am never disappointed anyway because I don't expect them to lead me to the promised land, I expect them to simply be excellent games; which they usually are. Every other game I take an interest in I tend to keep at a mild interest until it comes out, and then I read reviews before I get too excited. There are not many exceptions to this. But I am not really what you might call a 'hardcore gamer', I'm somewhere between casual and hardcore, so maybe that's why I don't get excited about every new release.