I fail to see how. Could you explain how you could possibly have one without the other?ManueleunaM said:Believing in God and in His existence are two completely different things.
If you believe in someone or have faith in them that means you trust that person will be there for you if you need him/her for example or that you believe in what they say. It's about trust mainly.Techno Squidgy said:I fail to see how. Could you explain how you could possibly have one without the other?ManueleunaM said:Believing in God and in His existence are two completely different things.
You're probably right by the way. It makes more sense doesn't it, since almost everything in the Universe is basically energy, even if that energy is manifested in different forms. And if one follows the theory that everything is connected in the Universe that could explain how we are in an indirect way a part of God.Techno Squidgy said:On a serious note, I don't believe in a anthropomorphic god. I feel if there is a god, it'd be more like an energy than anything else.
Ah, this is just a case of you taking a different meaning from the use of the word believe to me. You mean believe as in trust, whereas I mean believe as in acceptance of a possibility. To me believing in a god and believing in said god's existence mean the same thing.ManueleunaM said:If you believe in someone or have faith in them that means you trust that person will be there for you if you need him/her for example or that you believe in what they say. It's about trust mainly.Techno Squidgy said:I fail to see how. Could you explain how you could possibly have one without the other?ManueleunaM said:Believing in God and in His existence are two completely different things.
Believing that person exists is something different. For example: "I don't believe this Robert you speak of exists." Get it?
For example I don't like hearing people say they believe in the devil because that's the same as saying they trust in it or they believe in what it says. It might not be what they mean but it is what was said. What people really want to say is that they believe it exists.
You can acknowledge God's existence but trusting Him gets complicated since you can't see Him and life is basically shit most of the time.
You're probably right by the way. It makes more sense doesn't it, since almost everything in the Universe is basically energy, even if that energy is manifested in different forms. And if one follows the theory that everything is connected in the Universe that could explain how we are in an indirect way a part of God.Techno Squidgy said:On a serious note, I don't believe in a anthropomorphic god. I feel if there is a god, it'd be more like an energy than anything else.
why would an omnipresent being that created the universe be ascribed a nationality, damn that's some trolltastic flamebaite.Javarock said:All, Why would he just be one?
I promised myself I wouldn't do this, but my eye catches things like this and I just can't help it. We've gotta get some definitions straightened out. I "accept the possibility" that there is a god. That said, after weighing the evidence for and against, as it's been presented to me so far, I am not convinced and therefore do not believe.Techno Squidgy said:Ah, this is just a case of you taking a different meaning from the use of the word believe to me. You mean believe as in trust, whereas I mean believe as in acceptance of a possibility. To me believing in a god and believing in said god's existence mean the same thing.
I understand where you're coming from now.
I assume you yourself believe in the existence of a deity?
I keep trying to write this post but am unable to communicate what I mean clearly. Basically, I agree with you, but I use a different manner of speaking which is causing this confusion.Bento Box said:I promised myself I wouldn't do this, but my eye catches things like this and I just can't help it. We've gotta get some definitions straightened out. I "accept the possibility" that there is a god. That said, after weighing the evidence for and against, as it's been presented to me so far, I am not convinced and therefore do not believe.
Belief doesn't simply mean that you accept a possibility. It necessarily means that you are convinced of a position. People approach the concept of belief wrong way too often, and it really is one of those things you have to define and use correctly, if you are to have any sort of meaningful conversation about it.
This post isn't directed at you specifically, but anyone who wants to talk about belief.