Dont you just love a good conversation?
Labcoat Samurai said:
Did he? Could you quote chapter and verse on that one?
Anyways lets see the first thing you mention is the verse, which to be honest had me groan when I saw it with a 'ugh gotta go look it up' but I suppose its for the better that I dont just spout random information with no facts to back them up, I cant see how any dignified news source *cough*Fox*cough* could do such a thing. Well, it actually appears multiple times, but the one I found is Mark 12:17.
Well, it may be true that he wants you to do it because you think it's right or because you want to, but I don't see how you're *not* going to hell if you don't do it. He famously said that it's easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. If that isn't some good old fashion democrat-style class warfare, I don't know what is.
Ok, now on your quote, you dont seem to understand what that meant, it meant that a rich person is less likely to go to heaven because he doesnt want to give up the wealth he has amassed here on Earth. Rich people Can go to heaven, but go up to any rich, (and by rich lets say millionaires) person and ask them to give up all of the money they've earned to random charities when they are on death row and see what happens.
Ok now the answer to this one is simple, you see in a socialist/communist society, history must be erased from memory. Why? Because history was written by individuals, Alexander the Great, Attila the Hun, George Washington, Nikola Tesla, etc. and individual ideas of these people, why they endanger the safety of a nation! We could have revolution on our hands if people believe what these people believed! So, actually I suppose you got me, I was wrong, history will exist, just a highly censored one where all of the heros are played out by socialist supporting no names.
I wouldn't exactly say it's doing fantastically now, but yeah, Communism was a massive failure there.
And now their economy is great. So I suppose China's current system is presumably satisfactory to you (it isn't to me).
And yeah russia has some problems that we wont go into.
Oh no you are exactly right, China's economy isnt preferable, the way they get along so well is simple, American corperations have a choice, they can work in america, and be forced to pay minimum wage and extra taxes, or they can move operations to China, meet a new market while keeping the old one and working with basically slave labor. From an economists point of view, the stupid thing to do is to stay in America. Deng killed possibly, (and I say possibly because the PLA and PRC refuse to give exact numbers on the deaths and imprisonments) thousands of people during the Tiananmen Square Massacre- innocent, peaceful protesters, and the United States, the country I love and adore- did nothing. We who are supposed to be the advocates of peace and freedom and the rights of the people sat by and did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. This is dispicable, do we pick and choose what nations we decide to help? And the same BS is going on with Libya right now.
EDIT:Oh and their economy isnt necesarily doing 'great', its tied to every other economy on Earth right now, just like everybody else, and contrary to popular belief, despite our huge federal debt and other economic problems, the United States remains the world super power, both in terms of military strength, and surprisingly, economic power as well.
Also, you say that no "pure socialist" country has ever worked, but there are a lot of countries out there that are socialist enough to give your average Republican a heart attack, and they are working just fine, so I'm not sure how meaningful your standards are.
For the record, though, I agree with you to an extent. I think that people who are not free to pursue their own happiness will have no motivation to produce.
Give me an example of one pure socialist state that I cant prove is fed by China or another capitalist nation. You wont be able to give me one.
Or maybe because you were unaware that you were overpaying for health care in part because of freeloaders who don't buy insurance but still receive emergency medical care. Seriously, the health care changes are *good* for people like you and me who work and pay for our health insurance. You and I stand to benefit.
And you may have me on the health care, touche good sir... touche. That being said, the last thing we need is for health care to be completely controled by the federal government, that's only asking for trouble.
