Poll: If we could make Jurassic Park, should we?

[warhammerfrog]

People seem to overestimate a dinosaur's ability to kill everything. A park could easily be set up(provided a suitable climate is maintained)with good security. besides if you really wanted to keep a trex in an enclosure you wouldn't make it out of wire. you would have a large trench separating the fence to start with, T Rex would never even make it close. Problem of security solved

You could do the same with the raptors, set a a trench to make the fences unreachable.

PS. i put way too much thought into this

 

[Zetatrain]

I find it strange that so many people seem to be saying that something would go wrong. Why do you say that? There are millions of zoos around the world caging large predatory creatures, and if there is ever an escape, it tends to be like one animal and it's sorted really quickly with no casualties. In this scenario, oh no, it got loose. We are on an island, who cares?

I guess the problem some people have is that while what we know about dinosaurs is not without scientific merit, some of it could be wrong since we have never been able to actually study live ones in or out of their natural habitats. Whereas with animals like lions, tigers, and bears we know a lot about them based on what we have been able to observe. If you suddenly put dinosaurs into a zoo then you're introducing a lot of random factors and thus creating a potential disaster. It also goes without saying that a lot of the carnivorous dinosaurs would make modern predators look tame by comparison. Its gonna take a lot more to stop a rogue t-rex than a tiger.

In the end though I guess non of this is a reason why we could not have a Jurassic Park. If dinosaurs were recreated then they would probably be studied for years before being put into zoos in order to understand them better and thus avoid accidents.

Personally, I think a bigger hurdle would be making sure that the dinosaurs would be able to survive in our environment (bacteria and viruses they have no immunity to) rather than making sure we can survive against them.

I think it also goes without saying that a zoo with dinosaurs in it would have to be kept on a remote island because if they were to escape into the wild then they would wreak havoc on the ecosystem.

 

[Terminate421]

On one condition,

NO FLYING TYPES

They'd be hard to keep track of and cause alot of trouble.

 

[saintdane05]

Yes. Why? FOR SCIENCE!

 

[The Heik]

You saw the movies, right?

I don't think it would matter who ran the parks. Something would go wrong, and then we would be in trouble.

You don't know much about IRL do you?

There are a lot of things in the real world that could potentially kill us. However, they for the most part don't because we humans understand the concept of covering potentialities. Redundancies, back-ups and fail-safes exist everywhere. It's why we haven't accidentally nuked ourselves into oblivion or released every last deadly virus known to earth from our biochemical labs.

If we were to try and actually make Jurassic Park, it would be done pretty darn well because we would not make the same stupid mistakes that they did in the movie. For example we'd not let the animals just roam free in their own 4 square mile stretch of forest, we'd make the dinos male so they wouldn't be able to reproduce because of the frog genes of females turning male, and we'd certainly not just have some electrified fence keeping a seven and a half ton killer lizard from potentially eating the guests (seriously, why did they not put every dino in their own pit habitat? It's way easier for visitors to see the attractions and it'd be nearly impossible for the lizards to climb out!). And if worst comes to worst we could always just plop a Ranger battalion down t the park if we're feeling that vulnerable. I don't care how awesome the T-Rex is, it's going to lose against a 65-ton M1 Abrahms tank. The tyrant lizard wouldn't get 60 feet before it's twitching carcass skidded to a halt.

 

[Casual Shinji]

If you ever read the book you'd know that even with competent personnel it'd still be a disaster waiting to happen.

In the book, even before the power gets shut down dinosaurs are roaming free across the park, breeding, and making it off the island. Even something as minor as dinosaur poop becomes a problem since the bacteria needed to break it down went extinct millions of years ago.

Yeah, didn't some little baby in Costa Rica get its face chewed off by compys in its crib at some part in the beginning? The Lost World book touched on the aspect of disease and animals that had spread to different islands/bodies washing ashore, and the local governments trying desperately to cover it up.

Yeah, I think it was at some local hospital where a new born baby gets a part of its head chomped off.

There's also the bit where Dennis Nedry gets attacked by the dilophosauruses, and after he gets blinded he feels a sharp pain in his midriff, he feels down with his hands and grabs what he thinks are shredded strips of his raincoat... but they're not.

The book surely was wonderfully violent.

 

[Chemical Alia]

If you ever read the book you'd know that even with competent personnel it'd still be a disaster waiting to happen.

In the book, even before the power gets shut down dinosaurs are roaming free across the park, breeding, and making it off the island. Even something as minor as dinosaur poop becomes a problem since the bacteria needed to break it down went extinct millions of years ago.

Yeah, didn't some little baby in Costa Rica get its face chewed off by compys in its crib at some part in the beginning? The Lost World book touched on the aspect of disease and animals that had spread to different islands/bodies washing ashore, and the local governments trying desperately to cover it up.

Yeah, I think it was at some local hospital where a new born baby gets a part of its head chomped off.

There's also the bit where Dennis Nedry gets attacked by the dilophosauruses, and after he gets blinded he feels a sharp pain in his midriff, he feels down with his hands and grabs what he thinks are shredded strips of his raincoat... but they're not.

The book surely was wonderfully violent.

Oh yeah! Those dinosaur deaths were always so descriptively portrayed. I was also pretty fond of the part where Dr. Wu was playing tug of war with a raptor over his intestines.

 

[Casual Shinji]

If you ever read the book you'd know that even with competent personnel it'd still be a disaster waiting to happen.

In the book, even before the power gets shut down dinosaurs are roaming free across the park, breeding, and making it off the island. Even something as minor as dinosaur poop becomes a problem since the bacteria needed to break it down went extinct millions of years ago.

Yeah, didn't some little baby in Costa Rica get its face chewed off by compys in its crib at some part in the beginning? The Lost World book touched on the aspect of disease and animals that had spread to different islands/bodies washing ashore, and the local governments trying desperately to cover it up.

Yeah, I think it was at some local hospital where a new born baby gets a part of its head chomped off.

There's also the bit where Dennis Nedry gets attacked by the dilophosauruses, and after he gets blinded he feels a sharp pain in his midriff, he feels down with his hands and grabs what he thinks are shredded strips of his raincoat... but they're not.

The book surely was wonderfully violent.

Oh yeah! Those dinosaur deaths were always so descriptively portrayed. I was also pretty fond of the part where Dr. Wu was playing tug of war with a raptor over his intestines.

Poor Wu certainly lost that round. The guy opens the door for a second and immediately gets his stomach opened up by a sneaky raptor like he was a soda can.

It's a shame we never got to see Muldoon in the movie hide in a concrete pipe with a shotgun and blast any raptor that gets too close.
As a matter of fact, we never get to see any dinosaur get shot in the movies. Even in the third movie where they cocktease us with that badass monster rifle, we never even get to see them use it to blow a dinosaur to bits.

 

[Marter]

You saw the movies, right?

I don't think it would matter who ran the parks. Something would go wrong, and then we would be in trouble.

You don't know much about IRL do you?

What's an IRL and where can I get one?

AKA: It was a joke and you should not take things like that seriously at all, especially coming from me.

 

[The Heik]

You saw the movies, right?

I don't think it would matter who ran the parks. Something would go wrong, and then we would be in trouble.

You don't know much about IRL do you?

What's an IRL and where can I get one?

AKA: It was a joke and you should not take things like that seriously at all, especially coming from me.

Fair enough, but as a request next time could you use some form of emoticon or something to denote that it's a joke? Tone doesn't transfer well through text, so readers often have to take whatever is said straight (like with this situation). It'll save a lot of confusion.

 

[MrFalconfly]

Why are people so pessimistic about this?!?

I mean we've successfully caged present day predators in our zoos (and I'm pretty sure one could actually argue that present day feline carnivores aka. frikkin' lions and tigers are even more dangerous than some of these prehistoric animals). And if safety really is your concern then place the bloody thing on an island and don't clone stuff that could get off the island (like pliosaurs, plesiosaurs, and pterosaurs). In any case the only reason shit hit the fan in the film was because of the incredibly lax security on Isla Nublar.

Personally I'd like to see dinosaurs. And people saying we shouldn't just seem a bit too alarmist ("ooh we shouldn't play god", listen if we don't play god once in a while we might never get off this doomed rock).

EDIT: I meant to ask why are people so pessimistic in the thread. The poll seems to be quite optimistic.

 

[SadisticBrownie]

Probably not, but we should do it anyway. Everyone loves dinosaurs/

 

[KrossBillNye]

As long as they don't hire Wayne Knight we should be fine


BUT YES TOTALLY! I would love to see a park like that! If not a park have them filmed from a safe location so others can watch them.

 

[Luca72]

On one condition,

NO FLYING TYPES

They'd be hard to keep track of and cause alot of trouble.

Yeah, as long as there's a good safety protocol for dino viewing, I'd probably be okay with watching a T-rex or a pack of raptors.

But this ************? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6o6b4YyC91ruokcoo1_1280.jpg?.jpg

Natural selection can keep that one.

 

[Lasse Hauberg]

I really dont think so.
Not as much because of safity (not sure i spelled that right) matters, as seen in the movie, but more due to the ethic of the question.
And moreover, if we had the technology to do this, then were would we stop to use? At the point were we started using gene-meddling to perfect humans? Create new intelligent life, then subdue it?
Such technology would be misused, thats for sure. And theres no telling how.

 

[Neyon]

Really, big dinosoars escaping would not be a problem. Big things are very easy to hunt and kill, even if it has big teeth. The problems start when the little ones get out.

 

[Verkula]

Dont forget, that unlike in the movies, they wouldnt be having godmode on, and they would be actually affected by bullets.

In case im wrong, we can still train teen acrobats to fight them.

Also, of course we should do it, why the hell not? After all the teasing(museums, movies and whatnot) i want to know how they really looked like.

 

[Imthatguy]

Ehh most posters are forgetting that most dinosaurs where small also just don't make enough to establish a stable breeding population so if things go wrong it'll fix itself.

Also there is not enough free oxygen now to support large active animals like that without creating a sealed environment. (Edit: There is some debate over that statement)

 

[Andrewtheeviscerator]

Why not, dinosaurs rule. Just make sure to keep the facility on an island very far away from mainland and it should keep them from spreading to far out. Also imagine all the science we could learn from them. Not to mention all the uses they have including this

Spoiler

 

[MrFalconfly]

Ehh most posters are forgetting that most dinosaurs where small also just don't make enough to establish a stable breeding population so if things go wrong it'll fix itself.

Also there is not enough free oxygen now to support large active animals like that without creating a sealed environment. (Edit: There is some debate over that statement)

Well those sealed enclosures would then open up for a potential Carboniferous Park. I just sincerely hope that they wont recreate the mesothelae since that thing is my worst nightmare come true. A giant spider. Although Meganeura would be kind of awesome.

Or one could make a Silurian Waterworld (I hear that Brontoscorpio was quite an impressive specimen).