Poll: Infinity Ward screws over PC gamers, AGAIN.

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latiasracer

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Woodsey said:
latiasracer said:
Eherm, I Think this is Great. Dedicated servers are bland and boring. It'l prevent millions of servers just on the same map for 247! Im Happy they have got rid of shitty dedicated servers!
(Assuming you're not being sarcastic...)

If you don't know what you're talking about, its probably best not to describe something as "great".
Quite the Opposite, Good sir. I know exactly what im talking about.

I Guess im the crazy one then, I Muched prefered MW2's way of multiplayer games to black op's Dedicated server layout. There was the cheater problem, BUt i only actually got affected by that once and it wasn't to hard to reverse. Guess it's just me who's happy with this xD
 

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DrStupid87 said:
I can avoid hackers and very angry elementary school kids a hell of a lot more on the PC.
Fixed.

OT: No I'm not getting it. I had no plans to. Besides, ranked matches(to my knowledge) only put you on the leaderboards. You can still level up and get unlocks right? If not, stupid design choice, but then again ALL of MW2 was a stupid design choice, and this game isn't shaping up to be much different. THIS is why I'm getting Battlefield 3, a much superior game featuring gigantic maps with fighter jets, tanks, etc. Plus it actually encourages teamwork, unlike CoD.
 

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If I do get it, i'm getting it for my PS3, so yes.
ElektroNeko said:
First of all: FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS.

Second: You know you'll still buy it when it comes out right?
You do know you're on a gaming website on the internet complaining about someone else's complaint right?
 

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Techno Squidgy said:
Today I discovered that the dedicated servers promised to PC gamers for MW3 have not been what everyone expected. Dedicated servers will be unranked only. This means that if you wish to level up and make any kind of progress you have to use IWNet, the matchmaking service introduced in MW2.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
Are you f*cking kidding us?

There is no way that Infinity Ward can allow dedicated servers run by players to be ranked.

Dedicated servers exist to provide fun and entertainment for people who want to play the game that way. Dedicated servers can allow special rules and mods to run, meaning that the rules of the game changes (similar to all of the popular mods that exists for Counter-Strike, like the Warcraft 3 TFT Hero mod), and it also means that things like dealing with cheaters is out of IW's hands. Did you seriously, and in all honesty, expect that to be ranked?

It's not unacceptable. In fact, not only is it perfectly acceptable, it's the only logical way to do this as long as they insist on having that particular ranking system in the game.
You realise that black ops has player run dedicated servers right and it works just fine? And just the same as the consoles private matches do not count towards your XP or rank up in any way. Only proper game modes do with the min required amount of people for them to start.
Saying people will boost ect on dedicated servers is a load.
 

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Radoh said:
So.... a successful game did something that ultimately remained unchallenged except for a few whiny people, and they are doing the same thing for the sequel?
Hilarious.
Yes I will buy and yes I will be doing the same thing I did with MW2 i.e. play for over one hundred hours and not even notice the "issue" you are bringing up.
haha i know, it's not just and "issue" it's an "UNACCEPTABLE issue" haha omg i love my xbox.
 

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latiasracer said:
Woodsey said:
latiasracer said:
Eherm, I Think this is Great. Dedicated servers are bland and boring. It'l prevent millions of servers just on the same map for 247! Im Happy they have got rid of shitty dedicated servers!
(Assuming you're not being sarcastic...)

If you don't know what you're talking about, its probably best not to describe something as "great".
Quite the Opposite, Good sir. I know exactly what im talking about.

I Guess im the crazy one then, I Muched prefered MW2's way of multiplayer games to black op's Dedicated server layout. There was the cheater problem, BUt i only actually got affected by that once and it wasn't to hard to reverse. Guess it's just me who's happy with this xD
So then play on official servers.
 
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Warrior Irme said:
You realize you can level up, get your unlocks, then never touch matchmaking again. If they made the dedicated servers ranked there would tons of complaining about people gaming leaderboards, and cheating to get unlocks, and all that garbage. Their decision of giving dedicated servers, but not making them ranked is what you call a compromise, which seems unpopular to most.
Em they worked fine in BO just under constraints which is a compromise. CoD BO work fine, CoD 4 worked fine, CoD WaW stat abuse and that was then patched out. Also there are no real leaderboards on the PC and people can cheat with matchmaking so it is not like it makes a flying fuck in that respect. Even at that they can do a BC 2 style thing as well.
Radoh said:
So.... a successful game did something that ultimately remained unchallenged except for a few whiny people, and they are doing the same thing for the sequel?
Hilarious.
Yes I will buy and yes I will be doing the same thing I did with MW2 i.e. play for over one hundred hours and not even notice the "issue" you are bringing up.
So some people want a solid game experience both ranked and unranked and they don't want people to have a distinct advantage and play in a shitty high ping environment and that makes them whiney?
latiasracer said:
Eherm, I Think this is Great. Dedicated servers are bland and boring. It'l prevent millions of servers just on the same map for 247! Im Happy they have got rid of shitty dedicated servers!
Yes because there is no such thing as servers with map rotations and hundreds of other servers that have normal rotations aside from Nuketown/Arica Harbour/Caretan. No they don't exist. Seriously though there is a Dedicated server for everyone no one is forcing you to go on a 24/7 and no one ever will.
anthony87 said:
Capitano Segnaposto said:
Techno Squidgy said:
Today I discovered that the dedicated servers promised to PC gamers for MW3 have not been what everyone expected. Dedicated servers will be unranked only. This means that if you wish to level up and make any kind of progress you have to use IWNet, the matchmaking service introduced in MW2.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.

The reason most of us wanted Dedicated servers is so that we can enjoy the game with a regular group of people, in a low ping environment, with the settings how we like them. While it's true that you can still do this, it's a moot point because you make NO PROGRESS while doing this. I don't want to have to play with a bunch of random people I don't know, across someone's inevitably terrible broadband connection, with no admins, just so I can level up.

So PC gamers, I ask you, Will you be getting MW3 in light of this news?

I for one, will be cancelling my pre-order if this doesn't change.
Good for you. I for one will buy it, mainly because I enjoyed the last few games.

Why did you make a post about this? Just to say that you aren't getting it? I am confused.
Don't be confused.

You see it has apparently become the norm on this site for every whiney person and their whiney dog to create a thread whenever they see or hear something they don't like regarding a game, usually ending with a declaration of them not buying said game.

They continue to do this even though nobody cares.

You'll get used it it.
So you should not complain about something about a game on a gaming forum where we are supposed to discuss what happens in games? I thought this was the whole point of sites on the Escapist. Especially when it is something like Dedicated Servers on PC which are supposed to be a standard thing like well actually I can't think of any exclusive standard worthwhile features on consoles but I'm sure there is something. No I don't mean to be elitist by this I am genuinely drawing a blank. If I come up with something I will put in an edit.

I mean really to everyone saying Dedicated Servers are unreasonable for ranked it is very easy to set it up so a low player count results in no EXP or achievements being gained. BC 2 already does this and it works fine I think you need like 8 or 10 on the server for points to be gained and I really don't see why this hard and set up certain acceptable limits so servers can be used for ranked like I dunno Black Ops.

I mean seriously it is not like this hasn't been done before and well. Stop saying this isn't possible when it is already running fine. The odd cheater excluded.

Kakulukia said:
Yeah... I'm sure that boycott will be very successful... as much as the other ones.
Wow a picture that represents less than ~.02% of the people that went to boycott the game from a group that represents ~.55% of the boycott. Yes that must mean that the other ~99.45% of the people also bought and played the game. Also 9/10 cats prefer Whiskas.

Complete lack of the workings of PC gamers and Dedicated servers on this thread is nothing short of astonishing.

Also one thing I love and I will put this in nice big letters so everyone can see.

[HEADING=2]Many people here are complaining that people are whiners from previous MW 2 boycott and alughing at people without even asking for a source or even checking this out for themselves.[/HEADING]
I mean did people even bother to check that out or are is everyone just posting flame and laughing at people's opinions because of a post with no source?
 

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Once again, I couldn't care less. IWNet always worked fairly well for me and it saves me looking through a big list of servers, of which half of them are listed as having a spot open but as soon as I click it it says "Server Full", as well as constantly changing pings on the server list and ending up in games with stupid modifications and arbitrary rules. Also, it takes ages for me to find a decent dedicated server, and when I do it ends up being down half the time anyway.

I prefer clicking a button and jumping into a game rather than all the hassles that dedicated servers bring.
 

aashell13

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This doesn't bother me at all. Why? Because I really don't care about multiplayer. I just don't enjoy a running deathmatch with a dozen random people from the internet.

I won't buy MW3 at full price, and I probably won't even buy it on steam sale if I hear enough bad things about the singleplayer campaign.
 
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Awexsome said:
This seems like a fine idea. Like someone said above you don't get XP through private matches on the 360 or PS3.

I know one of the biggest exploits/mods for CoD has been insta-leveling lobbies. It won't stop cheating completely, nothing will, but this seems like a good way to let people have the dedicated servers and all the benfits that come with them while reducing the possible exploitation that they can bring to a system like CoD's as well.
No, no it hasn't. CoD 4, BO and BC 2 among others run this system fine and WaW does now aaw well. This was only a problem in WaW and was patched out of the game. This was only a problem on consoles especially since PC games do not even have lobbies and this crap to begin with. Well usually they don't.
 

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I had no plans of getting any more MW games after Black Ops was a bit of a disaster for me (couldn't play the game for 6 months due to many patches relating to Dual cores). The last one I liked and really enjoyed was World at War after that? I got them because friends wanted to play online.
 

Korten12

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I don't know about COD4 or WaW, but for Blops the reason it worked was b/c you could only RENT servers. MW3 lets you set up one for free, hence it would be INSANLEY easy to boost.
 

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I'll just keep playing hat fortress since the last good CoD was CoD 4 and it looks like this game won't be changing shit.
 

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To be honest I wasn't a huge fan of dedicated servers on PC for Black Ops. Way too many stupid servers with just an insane amount of random rules that could give you a migraine if you are a person who quick matches. Also, hopefully with this change the PC version will get a legit version of high roller, seriously wager matches for like $1,000 (in game money) was just a huge joke and a waste of time.
Also this alleviates the absolute bullshit that was the problem with having to completely exit a game to change and or upgrade your loadout. Also some perks like getting pro-marathon were an insane pain in the ass with blackops because with automatic level transferring without a lobby the first people to load into the map got the first blood, pretty much screwing over anyone who had a slightly slower load time.
 

Panzervaughn

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This sounds perfectly reasonable.
Stops you from influencing statistics by only playing people you know youre better than.
 

Gitty101

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Really? Has it got you that worked up? You must be very easy to annoy then. Loads of games have done this, and you know how much difference it has made to the experience? Here's a hint - none.
 

Baneat

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Wait, so the bullshit prestige system will not be applicable for real matches? Everyone's on an equal footing straight away?

FUCK YEAH
 

krychek57

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Not having Dedicated* servers saved me $60 on #2 and it looks like it will save me another $60 this time.

*Ranked
 

Rancid0ffspring

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I would like to exclaim that had I had any intention of purchasing MW3... even on the PC... This would have not factored into my decision!

Yawn... Ooh a piece of candy!
 

ToastiestZombie

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krychek57 said:
Not having Dedicated servers saved me $60 on #2 and it looks like it will save me another $60 this time.
It HAS dedicated servers. It's just your progress in them cant be seen on the leaderboard. This wasn't even a long article you could miss information out, it was two paragraphs clearly explaining what is not, and what is going to be in the game.

OT: This seems fine to me. Dedicated servers are pretty good, but they are not a good thing to go on if you want a fair, not crazy game you can rank up and progress in. But sometimes, dedicated servers can be hell, you can go onto a modded server accidently that hacks your game. A lot of them you have to download another 40 sound bites before you can even play. I think lag is a fair tradeoff.